Trading for a center

[Scalma]

Hes shooting 38% from the field this year and has never shot better than 40 in his 3 yrs. Not so sure about that

He shot nearly 40 from deep last season, and he takes a lot more shots and has/had a bigger role than Leonard. Most of Leonards shots are wide open catch and shoot looks

 

[BigGameDamian]

Where is Marcin Gortat name?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Where is Marcin Gortat name?

On the back of his jersey.

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Ok how about this

To Portland:
Nerlens Noel

To Philadelphia:
2017 protected first rounder
2018 second rounder
Ezeli
Connaughton

Philly gets a first for Noel and a second for absorbing Ezeli. We throw in connaughton for shits, maybe he gets a chance to play in philly, they need perimeter shooting anyway.

Then let Neil scout the Dleague for some talent to fill out the roster. Maybe he finds another Frazier, and we actually keep them around this time.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Ok how about this

To Portland:
Nerlens Noel

To Philadelphia:
2017 protected first rounder
2018 second rounder
Ezeli
Connaughton

Philly gets a first for Noel and a second for absorbing Ezeli. We throw in connaughton for shits, maybe he gets a chance to play in philly, they need perimeter shooting anyway.

Then let Neil scout the Dleague for some talent to fill out the roster. Maybe he finds another Frazier, and we actually keep them around this time.

I think Noel for Crabbe makes more sense for both teams. PHI needs outside shooting and they need it now. They are far enough under the cap to absorb the difference in salaries, even if Crabbe doesn't waive his trade kicker.

Ezeli's contract is a team option for next year. He's essentially an expiriing contract. No need to pay PHI to take him off our hands. Shedding Crabbe's salary combined with declining Ezeli's option gives us a lot more flexibility to resign Noel and/or Plumlee next summer without going into serious luxury tax territory.

BNM

 

[BonesJones]

Who says no?

PHI Gets:
Allen Crabbe
Tyler Johnson
Noah Vonleh

MIA Gets:
Nerlens Noel
Meyers Leonard
Festus Ezeli (Expiring)
Sergio Rodriguez (Expiring)
2017 LAL 1st (PHI)
2017 POR 1st (POR)
2018 CLE 1st (POR)
2020 OKC 1st (PHI)

POR Gets:
Hassan Whiteside
Goran Dragic

PHI:
Simmons / Bayless
Johnson / Henderson
Crabbe / Covington
Saric / Holmes
Embiid / Okafor

POR:
Lillard / Dragic
McCollum / Dragic
Harkless / Turner
Aminu / Davis
Whiteside / Plumlee

 

[Orion Bailey]

Ok how about this

To Portland:
Nerlens Noel

To Philadelphia:
2017 protected first rounder
2018 second rounder
Ezeli
Connaughton

Philly gets a first for Noel and a second for absorbing Ezeli. We throw in connaughton for shits, maybe he gets a chance to play in philly, they need perimeter shooting anyway.

Then let Neil scout the Dleague for some talent to fill out the roster. Maybe he finds another Frazier, and we actually keep them around this time.

Who says no?

PHI Gets:
Allen Crabbe
Tyler Johnson
Noah Vonleh

MIA Gets:
Nerlens Noel
Meyers Leonard
Festus Ezeli (Expiring)
Sergio Rodriguez (Expiring)
2017 LAL 1st (PHI)
2017 POR 1st (POR)
2018 CLE 1st (POR)
2020 OKC 1st (PHI)

POR Gets:
Hassan Whiteside
Goran Dragic

PHI:
Simmons / Bayless
Johnson / Henderson
Crabbe / Covington
Saric / Holmes
Embiid / Okafor

POR:
Lillard / Dragic
McCollum / Dragic
Harkless / Turner
Aminu / Davis
Whiteside / Plumlee

I am not sure if NO wants to put all his muscle into one swing of the bat, but if he did, I'm on board. Problem is how are you paying all those guys?
Plumlee is gonna get paid, Whiteside, CJ and Dame are all maxed out. Dragic will make more than Crabbe and.or Turner. Sorry. Even with the new CBA predictions, I don't think there is enough money to go around. Harkless is gonna get paid in a few as well.

 

[BonesJones]

I am not sure if NO wants to put all his muscle into one swing of the bat, but if he did, I'm on board. Problem is how are you paying all those guys?
Plumlee is gonna get paid, Whiteside, CJ and Dame are all maxed out. Dragic will make more than Crabbe and.or Turner. Sorry. Even with the new CBA predictions, I don't think there is enough money to go around. Harkless is gonna get paid in a few as well.

Dragic is about as much as Crabbe, and Whiteside is $5M more than Leonard+Ezeli

 

[Orion Bailey]

Dragic is about as much as Crabbe, and Whiteside is $5M more than Leonard+Ezeli

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Right, but then how do you pay Plumlee and eventually Harkless? In two years, if Harkless even keeps up his recent play, he will get double what he is making now. Easily. Napier will wants some more, etc.

 

[BonesJones]

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Right, but then how do you pay Plumlee and eventually Harkless? In two years, if Harkless even keeps up his recent play, he will get double what he is making now. Easily. Napier will wants some more, etc.

Harkless signed a 4-year contract and we don't need Napier.

 

[Trackjack]

I think Noel for Crabbe makes more sense for both teams. PHI needs outside shooting and they need it now. They are far enough under the cap to absorb the difference in salaries, even if Crabbe doesn't waive his trade kicker.

Ezeli's contract is a team option for next year. He's essentially an expiriing contract. No need to pay PHI to take him off our hands. Shedding Crabbe's salary combined with declining Ezeli's option gives us a lot more flexibility to resign Noel and/or Plumlee next summer without going into serious luxury tax territory.

BNM

The problem with Crabbe he has to agree with the deal he got this until next year so it is not that easy to trade Crabbe.

 

[Scalma]

The problem with Crabbe he has to agree with the deal he got this until next year so it is not that easy to trade Crabbe.

Crabbe was ready to go to the Nets. I don't think it'll be difficult to convince him to leave as long as he's starting elsewhere.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Harkless signed a 4-year contract and we don't need Napier.

I thought it was 2. Sorry. Just checked. You're right.

 

[illmatic99]

Man, Embiid is a beast. Watched their game vs BK today and they need a guard in the worst possible way. Still, the guy is a monster. 33 and 10 in less than 30 mins with ELITE rim protection.

As a rookie.

I hope for basketball sake, he stays healthy. He's soon gonna go from the process to the problem.

Also... Okafor is trash. Imagine Embiid and Porzingis on the same squad. Holy shit.

 

[illmatic99]

Random source: Portland front runner to land Noel and it's why he didn't play today.

http://dystnow.com/2016/12/18/nerlens-noels-time-philadelphia-ended/

According to separate sources, the 76ers trade talks are heating up for Noel which is why he was removed from the rotation Sunday night.

Brett Brown said the reason for Noel being removed from the rotation wasn’t for his comments after the Lakers game on Friday night, but for a more balanced rotation.

“I think we’re going to stick with this rotation for a while,” said Brown. “I don’t feel the balance of the team with 3 big men (playing). The ripple effects are real.”

The team that is said to be the front runner is the Portland Trailblazers.

“He’s definitely gone,” one source added. “He’s not happy and the team’s not happy with him.”

Not sure how legit this is

 

[Scalma]

Man, Embiid is a beast. Watched their game vs BK today and they need a guard in the worst possible way. Still, the guy is a monster. 33 and 10 in less than 30 mins with ELITE rim protection.

As a rookie.

I hope for basketball sake, he stays healthy. He's soon gonna go from the process to the problem.

Also... Okafor is trash. Imagine Embiid and Porzingis on the same squad. Holy shit.

I watched the game too and I agree, Okafor is bad and Embiid is gooood. Okafors ceiling is al Jefferson. Embiids is I don't even know, he can do everything.

 

[Scalma]

Random source: Portland front runner to land Noel and it's why he didn't play today.

http://dystnow.com/2016/12/18/nerlens-noels-time-philadelphia-ended/



Not sure how legit this is

would explain why he didn't play. I don't buy the other reasons. Noel might've handled his situation wrong, but I still feel bad for him. Upper management is straight up costing him money. It's unprofessional imo.

 

[illmatic99]

His twitter page said he is an "official NBA and NFL media member" and that he was featured on ESPN and CBS Sports.

 

[illmatic99]

Point of no return.

 

[Scalma]

His twitter page said he is an "official NBA and NFL media member" and that he was featured on ESPN and CBS Sports.

Yeah, idk about the actual source, but it makes sense either way that that's why he didn't play.

 

[Scalma]

Point of no return.

Lolol brown is pretty much pleading to colangelo to trade him.

 

[TBpup]

It's doubtful Philly would sit him until January 15th when Crabbe became available so figure on other player(s) if they are in a hurry to make a deal. Take out Dame, CJ, (because) Crabbe/Turner (because of his contracts) and Harkless because that is fairly similar to Ben Simmons. My guess would be Biebs because he gives them a big back but can stretch the floor and let Okafor and Embiid do their thing while being fine with being a backup. It gives Portland a little cap relief while not being a bad contract for the 76'ers. However he has the same January 15 restriction.

So is it Aminu? It wouldn't Davis I don't think and the rest of the Blazers have very little value. Sitting Noel waiting for Al-Farouq to get better?

 

[illmatic99]

It's doubtful Philly would sit him until January 15th when Crabbe became available so figure on other player(s) if they are in a hurry to make a deal. Take out Dame, CJ, (because) Crabbe/Turner (because of his contracts) and Harkless because that is fairly similar to Ben Simmons. My guess would be Biebs because he gives them a big back but can stretch the floor and let Okafor and Embiid do their thing while being fine with being a backup. It gives Portland a little cap relief while not being a bad contract for the 76'ers. However he has the same January 15 restriction.

So is it Aminu? It wouldn't Davis I don't think and the rest of the Blazers have very little value. Sitting Noel waiting for Al-Farouq to get better?

Festus and a pick?

Or hell... ET?

 

[TBpup]

Festus and a pick?

Or hell... ET?

For Festus would basically be a giveaway and that pick better be Lottery protected. I can't see them taking Turner back especially with that contract but maybe Coach Brown has a thing for him.

 

[LuckyShot]

Do we know what Philly wants exactly in a trade for Noel? What positions do they want in return? What's their asking price in terms of draft picks?

 

[Scalma]

Ezeli and a protected first sounds about right.

 

[TBpup]

He sounds quite sure of that and the source.....almost like it's a Philly 'hold onto your shorts' situation.

 

[Scalma]

Question; does the league do business on weekends? Meaning would trades be made official on a Sunday?

 

[blue9]

If we're trading Crabbe for Noel we need to trade Davis for a wing.

 

[Dougnsalem]

If we're trading Crabbe for Noel we need to trade Davis for a wing.

Let's just give em Meyers for Hendo