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SportsAndWhine said:
In a fair society, he'd wrestle boys. Texas is not being fair.
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Right but what I’m saying is let’s say one day a boy tries the same shit with being a girl and then wants to jump into women’s wrestling. You see it would still be fair for him to fight in boys wrestling because he’s still naturally a man and naturally men have these physical advantages over women even with estrogen. He would lose quite a bit but still. So under a new law it would still be unfair the other way around. So I don’t know, the world is weird.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
That's not his fault if nothing happens.
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Okay then I guess he’s winning titles every year then and let’s just blame it on the law, because fuck girls that are natural right? They shouldn’t have fair competition. This is where the left eats themselves because they love their transgenders and women so pick one. Not saying you’re left because I know you’re a nazi ass conservative but you know
 
Cippy91 said:
Okay then I guess he’s winning titles every year then and let’s just blame it on the law, because fuck girls that are natural right? They shouldn’t have fair competition. This is where the left eats themselves because they love their transgenders and women so pick one. Not saying you’re left because I know you’re a nazi ass conservative but you know
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This is just word salad now... I feel like I should call 911 because this post makes you sound like you're stroking out.
 
Cippy91 said:
Right but what I’m saying is let’s say one day a boy tries the same shit with being a girl and then wants to jump into women’s wrestling. You see it would still be fair for him to fight in boys wrestling because he’s still naturally a man and naturally men have these physical advantages over women even with estrogen. He would lose quite a bit but still. So under a new law it would still be unfair the other way around. So I don’t know, the world is weird.
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So again, it's the law, not Mack that is making this a bad situation.
 
Cippy91 said:
Okay then I guess he’s winning titles every year then and let’s just blame it on the law, because fuck girls that are natural right? They shouldn’t have fair competition. This is where the left eats themselves because they love their transgenders and women so pick one. Not saying you’re left because I know you’re a nazi ass conservative but you know
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There are many examples of girls beating boys in high school wrestling.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=D4...i22i30k1j33i22i29i30k1j33i160k1.0.yiKQX-IQiuA
 
 
SportsAndWhine said:
This is just word salad now... I feel like I should call 911 because this post makes you sound like you're stroking out.
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I’m not as mad as you think but yeah I guess keep posting on how angry you think I am rather than contribute to conversation
 
 
Cippy91 said:
I’m not as mad as you think but yeah I guess keep posting on how angry you think I am rather than contribute to conversation
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I get your position. You're not budging from it no matter what I say. You've proven that with your last half dozen posts. Why should I take you seriously enough to try and engage you in an actual conversation about this?

The short of it is: he's a senior, and that was his last season in HS anyway. It's over. You're very angry (you yourself said livid) over something that's all done now. You won't point your anger at the Texas law. You won't even discuss the law. The law is in the wrong, and if the law didn't exist he'd have wrestled boys instead. Why aren't you talking about the law?
 
SportsAndWhine said:
I get your position. You're not budging from it no matter what I say. You've proven that with your last half dozen posts. Why should I take you seriously enough to try and engage you in an actual conversation about this?

The short of it is: he's a senior, and that was his last season in HS anyway. It's over. You're very angry (you yourself said livid) over something that's all done now. You won't point your anger at the Texas law. You won't even discuss the law. The law is in the wrong, and if the law didn't exist he'd have wrestled boys instead. Why aren't you talking about the law?
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Why should you take me seriously on this? Because I’m making points towards the whole thing. All you’re focused on is the law. That doesn’t solve the problem of what has happened already through high school when he was wrestling girls. The whole thing is just unfair and yeah you can point to the law that’s fine, I get it, he can’t go wrestle boys. So what? I wonder if he feels good about himself mauling all these girls? It’s still unfair. Talkkng about the law won’t do shit, it’s texas, you know how they are with laws. So I accepted it. Guess he will be dominating girls in college too while the parents of natural women get mad about it. Maybe you should make fun of all the parents of the girls he’s mauled for being mad and just tell them “but it’s the law!”
 
Cippy91 said:
Why should you take me seriously on this? Because I’m making points towards the whole thing. All you’re focused on is the law. That doesn’t solve the problem of what has happened already through high school when he was wrestling girls. The whole thing is just unfair and yeah you can point to the law that’s fine, I get it, he can’t go wrestle boys. So what? I wonder if he feels good about himself mauling all these girls? It’s still unfair. Talkkng about the law won’t do shit, it’s texas, you know how they are with laws. So I accepted it. Guess he will be dominating girls in college too while the parents of natural women get mad about it. Maybe you should make fun of all the parents of the girls he’s mauled for being mad and just tell them “but it’s the law!”
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From the article... sorry, from the FUCKING ARTICLE:

"He said he has an academic scholarship offer from a small college, where he was promised a spot on the men's wrestling team."

I think, though your argument is so garbled and layered over with Jerry Springer hyperbole, you're trying to say that Mack shouldn't have wrestled in HS. Let's start there. Am I right?
 
SportsAndWhine said:
From the article... sorry, from the FUCKING ARTICLE:

"He said he has an academic scholarship offer from a small college, where he was promised a spot on the men's wrestling team."

I think, though your argument is so garbled and layered over with Jerry Springer hyperbole, you're trying to say that Mack shouldn't have wrestled in HS. Let's start there. Am I right?
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Like any sport and in any competition I don’t believe Mack should of been able to compete, it’s an unfair advantage. Like you said though, it’s the law so that makes it okay. There are a lot of sideways laws in other states regarding other issues as well but I guess you would agree on those too? I mean Texas still prohibits same sex marriage, do you stand with that law? It’s still unfair right? Right? That’s my point. Seems like you’re getting more worked up than me. Breathe, just breathe
 
Cippy91 said:
Like any sport and in any competition I don’t believe Mack should of been able to compete, it’s an unfair advantage. Like you said though, it’s the law so that makes it okay. There are a lot of sideways laws in other states regarding other issues as well but I guess you would agree on those too? I mean Texas still prohibits same sex marriage, do you stand with that law? It’s still unfair right? Right? That’s my point. Seems like you’re getting more worked up than me. Breathe, just breathe
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So, Mack should not have competed against girls, because of his unfair advantage. I think lots of folks (including Mack) agree with this. He should have competed against boys.

Where I think you're being really weird about this is that, instead of saying "and Texas law shouldn't bar him from doing that!" you're saying "Well, laws will be laws, I gotta accept them oh well, this trans athlete should never have been allowed to be an athlete. Sorry, them's the rules." You're standing with the law, not me. You're totally accepting of it as an excuse to make sure "maulings" don't happen. Trust me, you're really worked up about this and it's confusing to me.

Your message appears to be: trans people should accept the law, and stop getting in the way. Can you clarify?
 
SportsAndWhine said:
So, Mack should not have competed against girls, because of his unfair advantage. I think lots of folks (including Mack) agree with this. He should have competed against boys.

Where I think you're being really weird about this is that, instead of saying "and Texas law shouldn't bar him from doing that!" you're saying "Well, laws will be laws, I gotta accept them oh well, this trans athlete should never have been allowed to be an athlete. Sorry, them's the rules." You're standing with the law, not me. You're totally accepting of it as an excuse to make sure "maulings" don't happen. Trust me, you're really worked up about this and it's confusing to me.

Your message appears to be: trans people should accept the law, and stop getting in the way. Can you clarify?
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Cippy is saying he should have married the girls before beating them, then liberals couldn't take away his title or guns.
 
SportsAndWhine said:
So, Mack should not have competed against girls, because of his unfair advantage. I think lots of folks (including Mack) agree with this. He should have competed against boys.

Where I think you're being really weird about this is that, instead of saying "and Texas law shouldn't bar him from doing that!" you're saying "Well, laws will be laws, I gotta accept them oh well, this trans athlete should never have been allowed to be an athlete. Sorry, them's the rules." You're standing with the law, not me. You're totally accepting of it as an excuse to make sure "maulings" don't happen. Trust me, you're really worked up about this and it's confusing to me.

Your message appears to be: trans people should accept the law, and stop getting in the way. Can you clarify?
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I don't know where the fuck you got that. However it's nice that you seem to be putting me in the right wing box. Go figure. I never said trans people should accept the law. Yeah, the law needs to be changed. However I feel bad for all the natural girls that had to go up against him and get destroyed. I side with the natural girls than the mentally ill trans girl or boy, whatever it is. But if you think texas is gonna make this law happen for one person, you are out of your mind. I am just looking at it realistically. They aren't gonna do it, so I hope this "boy" has fun dominating through his career, taking advantage of the system. I mean this just isn't difficult. It's unfair, simple. "But the law says!!!"
yeah the fucking law says otherwise but they wont change it. Texas wont even let gays marry, you really think they are gonna change a law for one person?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Cippy is saying he should have married the girls before beating them, then liberals couldn't take away his title or guns.
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I know you are trolling but I am so tired of the right wing label. I honestly just think these far left types are destroying society. Yeah, the right has it's own fucking issues but this far left shit is being taught in schools and is the new normal. There is nothing normal about a girl wrestling another girl on testosterone. That's mental.
 
Cippy91 said:
I don't know where the fuck you got that. However it's nice that you seem to be putting me in the right wing box. Go figure. I never said trans people should accept the law. Yeah, the law needs to be changed. However I feel bad for all the natural girls that had to go up against him and get destroyed. I side with the natural girls than the mentally ill trans girl or boy, whatever it is. But if you think texas is gonna make this law happen for one person, you are out of your mind. I am just looking at it realistically. They aren't gonna do it, so I hope this "boy" has fun dominating through his career, taking advantage of the system. I mean this just isn't difficult. It's unfair, simple. "But the law says!!!"
yeah the fucking law says otherwise but they wont change it. Texas wont even let gays marry, you really think they are gonna change a law for one person?
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You think there is only one transgender person competing in Texas high school sports and that after this person graduates there will never be anymore? Texas is the 2nd most populated state in the US. So if you think that Texas isn't going to change the law for one person then why did they enact it for one person?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You think there is only one transgender person competing in Texas high school sports and that after this person graduates there will never be anymore? Texas is the 2nd most populated state in the US. So if you think that Texas isn't going to change the law for one person then why did they enact it for one person?
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Well fuck how many transgenders could there be in texas and if there are many when are we starting the comedic reality show of transgenders living in texas?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Too late, I just finished.
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Everything I comment on resolves in trolling. You wonder why I troll form time to time. The arguments I have heard is, "it's the law, he can't help it"

Yes this is true but at the same time nobody has acknowledged how ridiculous and unfair this is to natural girls trying to compete except for me. You are so focused on the law it's insane. Good old lefty Oregon, never change.
 
Cippy91 said:
Everything I comment on resolves in trolling. You wonder why I troll form time to time. The arguments I have heard is, "it's the law, he can't help it"

Yes this is true but at the same time nobody has acknowledged how ridiculous and unfair this is to natural girls trying to compete except for me. You are so focused on the law it's insane. Good old lefty Oregon, never change.
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I wasn't trying to troll you, just having some light hearted fun. I am sorry.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I wasn't trying to troll you, just having some light hearted fun. I am sorry.
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I am all for light hearted fun, you know I will go back and forth with it. The OT section is just out of hand. I am not saying I have never made a mistake or been a certain way but I think my argument here is pretty fair yet it's almost like I live in the god damn twilight zone because somewhere it became acceptable for natural girls to fight another girl jacked up on testosterone. Nothing to see here, shes won two straight titles and dismantles other girls, nothing to do with testosterone. Oh but it's the law. Yeah okay I get that but that still doesn't take away from the girls she has obliterated in competition. For real I am almost completely done posting serious shit in the OT section. You got oldies like riverman and the other dude with the clown avatar, barfo, etc who think this ultra leftist way is the future. Yet lack basic knowledge and critical thinking skills. Got Dviss out here calling everybody a racist. Only a few actual people from the left who can have a normal discussion without trying to stir up shit. So tell me sly, why haven't I been called anything negative by the right for my views on trump and how I dislike him or fox news yet Barfo and others have implied I am alt right or back when it was cool, calling me a white supremacist or that I am secretly a nazi, or it's cool for people like dviss to call me and others racist because my view doesn't line up with their crazy one. It's whatever, I live in Oregon I guess I should expect the ultra left opinion over ruling mine. However I think if I was person to person with any of these people, they wouldn't be calling me these things. I would still act the same and you would be very surprised to see I am not nearly as angry as my words come off of a forum apparently.
 
I know how mack feels. I beat women off me everytime i testosterone up at the gym. Fuck ya bros!
 
She's a girl who is allowed to wrestle despite taking performance-enhancing drugs that give her an unfair advantage over any human not taking performance-enhancing drugs.

As far as sports goes, it's illegal and obviously unfair to all competitors regardless of gender.

The fact that the sport of wrestling involves constant groping, grabbing and squeezing, the sex-abuse issue will loom large in any arguments of the quandary.

As far as the whole how does society adjust to the new self-identifying-through-medical-alteration fad without losing so many of the marvelous things that make our lives complete, I'm fairly certain it can't be done.

As far as medically altering pre-adults to change their gender or other appearances, child abuse IMO.
 
MARIS61 said:
She's a girl who is allowed to wrestle despite taking performance-enhancing drugs that give her an unfair advantage over any human not taking performance-enhancing drugs.

As far as sports goes, it's illegal and obviously unfair to all competitors regardless of gender.

The fact that the sport of wrestling involves constant groping, grabbing and squeezing, the sex-abuse issue will loom large in any arguments of the quandary.

As far as the whole how does society adjust to the new self-identifying-through-medical-alteration fad without losing so many of the marvelous things that make our lives complete, I'm fairly certain it can't be done.

As far as medically altering pre-adults to change their gender or other appearances, child abuse IMO.
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MARIS61 said:
She's a girl who is allowed to wrestle despite taking performance-enhancing drugs that give her an unfair advantage over any human not taking performance-enhancing drugs.

As far as sports goes, it's illegal and obviously unfair to all competitors regardless of gender.

The fact that the sport of wrestling involves constant groping, grabbing and squeezing, the sex-abuse issue will loom large in any arguments of the quandary.

As far as the whole how does society adjust to the new self-identifying-through-medical-alteration fad without losing so many of the marvelous things that make our lives complete, I'm fairly certain it can't be done.

As far as medically altering pre-adults to change their gender or other appearances, child abuse IMO.
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You can chop off a dick or pretend your butt is a vajayjay but you cant alter chromosomes... yet
 
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