Travis Outlaw - All Defensive Team

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Somebody is being extremely, extremely ironic.

Or they think it's Bo Outlaw.
 
WTG Travis!

Now what coach on earth voted for Travis ahead of those guys who made it? Can't be Nate since he can't vote for his own players.
 
alex42083 said:
WTG Travis!

Now what coach on earth voted for Travis ahead of those guys who made it? Can't be Nate since he can't vote for his own players.
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Whoever it is, we should explore as a trade partner. He is an offensive talent, and if someone thinks he's an all-league defender, he should have some good value.
 
And even Joel, who not only got seven points but got a first-team vote over Dwight Howard. That's a little surprising as well.
 
Tince said:
Whoever it is, we should explore as a trade partner. He is an offensive talent, and if someone thinks he's an all-league defender, he should have some good value.
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Sounds like a good idea. Time to look at Travis' defensive stats against the teams this season.
 
Tince said:
Whoever it is, we should explore as a trade partner. He is an offensive talent, and if someone thinks he's an all-league defender, he should have some good value.
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...hopefully it is a team with someone on KP's radar!!!
 
Or, maybe Outlaw isn't the complete failure defensively that some people think he is.
 
PapaG said:
Or, maybe Outlaw isn't the complete failure defensively that some people think he is.
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Clearly, at minimum, one person agrees with that statement.
 
B-Roy said:
No...but all-NBA defense worthy? :lol:
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Somebody in the league values the work Outlaw does defensively. I'll take that opinion over the hordes on boards like this that think they know better than people who actually work in the league.
 
PapaG said:
Somebody in the league values the work Outlaw does defensively. I'll take that opinion over the hordes on boards like this that think they know better than people who actually work in the league.
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Okay then, good for you. I'll keep judging him based on his play.
 
B-Roy said:
Okay then, good for you. I'll keep judging him based on his play.
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I'd expect no less of anyone. I just didn't think the guy was as big a failure defensively as many seem to think. Looks like at least one person with more knowledge than anyone on this board agrees. :cheers:
 
PapaG said:
Somebody in the league values the work Outlaw does defensively. I'll take that opinion over the hordes on boards like this that think they know better than people who actually work in the league.
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John Nash made multi-millions while baffling my unpaid opinion time and again. I'm sure we can collectively come up with many other examples of well paid idiots... just saying

But like you, I don't think Travis is that bad defensively as some do here. He's okay... that he both gives up easy buckets and gets blocks/steals is a bit maddening, but the end result seems a wash to me.

STOMP
 
Travis might be the worst defender on our roster. What he does well is block shots and make the hilite reel.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Travis might be the worst defender on our roster.
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No, he's mediocre defensively, like Blake. Frye and Rodriguez are the worst defenders on the roster. (Randolph and Ruffin are probably awful too, but they didn't play enough for me to get very conclusive ideas of their defense and they hardly mattered at all.)
 
Travis is a slightly worse than average NBA defender. Of the 71 forwards who played at least 60 games and averaged at least 24 MPG, Travis was 43rd in DRtg (defensive rating) at 108.5.

LeBron had the best DRtg among forwards at 99.1. Fancisco Garcia was last at 113.9. So, again Travis is slightly below average.

What's frustrating is he has the tools to be a great defender, both man-to-man and help side, but lacks the focus. He gives up a ton of easy baskets because he simply loses his man and gives up a wide open 3-pointer or a back door cut for a dunk. It's the large number of mental lapses and easy baskets he gives up that makes him look like an even worse defender than he is (on whole). He seems to totally forget the most basic defensive principles - see your man, and see the ball. It's almost like he gets hypnotizzed by the ball and totally loses track of his man. Shane Battier killed the Blazers in the play-offs because he totally took advantage of Travis' lapses to knock down wide open threes or back door cuts for dunks (especially in games 3 and 4 in Houston). In terms of court awareness, Battier is the anti-Outlaw.

BNM
 
How many voted did Oden get? After he was drafted, some experts picked him to be defensive player of the year in his first year.
 
David Lee got more votes than Chris Andersen. That in itself is enough to tell me what kind of a farce this voting is.

And, the hell is Kome a first-teamer. He takes plays (hell, make that quarters) off on a nightly basis.
 
I am a big Outlaw supporter and even I was surprised to see him get a vote. Especially after Brandon only got one vote. Another surprise was Batum did not get a vote.
 
BlazerBeliever said:
I am a big Outlaw supporter and even I was surprised to see him get a vote. Especially after Brandon only got one vote. Another surprise was Batum did not get a vote.
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I'm not. Few people outside of Portland consider Batum a good defender.
 
Uncle Ty said:
I wonder if the media can vote for this, or is it just the coaches? If the media are allowed to vote for all-defensive team, I would be shocked if the vote did not come from Mike Barrett. Barrett is trying to surpass Chuck Swirsky as team's biggest homer.
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Here's the voting panel

The voting panel consisted of the NBA's 30 head coaches, who were asked to select NBA All-Defensive First and Second Teams by position. Coaches were not permitted to vote for players from their own team. Two points were awarded for a First Team vote and one point was awarded for a Second Team vote.
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After he was drafted, some experts believed Oden would be inducted into the Hall of Fame after his rookie season. How many Hall of Fame votes did Oden receive?
 
Minstrel said:
After he was drafted, some experts believed Oden would be inducted into the Hall of Fame after his rookie season. How many Hall of Fame votes did Oden receive?
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So far he is neck to neck with Eric's Oscar nominations :devilwink:
 
Wizard Mentor said:
and your presidential nominations. What does that have to do with anything?
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Thank god. You have to be crazy to run for the house. It was supposed to be a good humored jab at Eric. If he objects - I will retract - but I did not get a vibe from him that he can not make fun of himself.
 
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