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Name me a great player that went to management and essentially told them to give him a new PG. I mean seriously. If your good, you learn how to play with each other.

Roy is certainly a diva.

maybe not a PG, but Kobe basically said he wanted a new center or he'd leave/not resign/demand to be traded.

twice.
 
You think Kobe didn't say trade Smush Parker? lol

Were seriously going to compare Smush Parker and Andre Miller? Parker was garbage. Were a below .500 team and we don't have anyone near as bad as Parker in our starting lineup. Same goes for Kwame Brown who was their starting Center.
 
It may take trading Miller for this team to really suck balls and get a legit shot at Kyrie Irving or Kemba Walker ... and it might finally show Roy just how washed up he really is, which might hasten either his move to the bench or him taking an early retirement.

Damn ... The more I think about this the better I feel about giving Roy his way.

Git'r done Cho!!

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Were seriously going to compare Smush Parker and Andre Miller? Parker was garbage. Were a below .500 team and we don't have anyone near as bad as Parker in our starting lineup. Same goes for Kwame Brown who was their starting Center.

That wasn't the question. The question was:

"Name me a great player that went to management and essentially told them to give him a new PG."

You think Kobe liked playing with Smush? You think Roy likes playing with Miller? Miller might be better than Smush but he's still not a great fit. Nothing wrong with Roy saying that imo because I agree with him.
 
That wasn't the question. The question was:

"Name me a great player that went to management and essentially told them to give him a new PG."

You think Kobe liked playing with Smush? You think Roy likes playing with Miller? Miller might be better than Smush but he's still not a great fit. Nothing wrong with Roy saying that imo because I agree with him.

You're right. I was wrong about that. I forgot about that Lakers team when Kobe had garbage talent surrounding him. If I was the best player in the league I would've wanted upgrades at PG and C as well.
 
That wasn't the question. The question was:

"Name me a great player that went to management and essentially told them to give him a new PG."

You think Kobe liked playing with Smush? You think Roy likes playing with Miller? Miller might be better than Smush but he's still not a great fit. Nothing wrong with Roy saying that imo because I agree with him.

Actually you've got it ass backward, Roy is no longer a great fit with Miller ... or maybe anyone. So him demanding that the team's best player be traded so he can go back to the good old days, when his body has basically revolted and made that impossible means he's actually dead wrong to ask management to trade Miller.
 
Name me a great player that went to management and essentially told them to give him a new PG. I mean seriously. If your good, you learn how to play with each other.

Roy is certainly a diva.

Oh, absolutely for certain true. I mean, media guys never get anything wrong. Has to be true. We saw it on the interwebs.
 
It's never been a good fit. Miller was a "use it or lose it" hook to keep part of RLEC. He knows Roy doesn't like playing with him, but he's kept his mouth shut and played well since he's been here. For that, I'll always appreciate Dre's contribution to this team.
 
It's never been a good fit. Miller was a "use it or lose it" hook to keep part of RLEC. He knows Roy doesn't like playing with him, but he's kept his mouth shut and played well since he's been here. For that, I'll always appreciate Dre's contribution to this team.

He has been a pro, and I too appreciate his contributions to the team. A back court of Andre and Wesley would be a good one, imho. Well, if Andre was 7 years younger.
 
Some fans of this team deserve what they get.
 
Miller's been professional, I mean after his little tirade with Nate, that is.
 
Miller's been professional, I mean after his little tirade with Nate, that is.

You think him having it out with Nate face to face is unprofessional? It beats the shit out of passive-aggressively throwing your teammates under the bus through the press.
 
You think him having it out with Nate face to face is unprofessional? It beats the shit out of passive-aggressively throwing your teammates under the bus through the press.

I really don't have any problem with Miller having it out with Nate, although it sounds like it got way beyond the professional level on either side. I'm just saying that he's struggled in trying to find a fit with this team, too.

As far as Roy's deal with Quickie goes, he was dumb to say what he did, but he apologized and I think it's something that you just move on from. If it crops up again, then I'd have a problem with it.
 
I really don't have any problem with Miller having it out with Nate, although it sounds like it got way beyond the professional level on either side. I'm just saying that he's struggled in trying to find a fit with this team, too.

As far as Roy's deal with Quickie goes, he was dumb to say what he did, but he apologized and I think it's something that you just move on from. If it crops up again, then I'd have a problem with it.

That wasn't the first time.
 
Oh, I think he's been pretty consistent in saying that Miller isn't somebody that he really enjoys playing with and that he thinks they don't mesh well. I don't recall another time where he was as negative about the way he said it, but maybe so. I mean, I agree with Roy. I've never thought he and Miller were a good fit, even when Brandon was at the top of his game. What I don't get, however, is how quick so many around here have been to turn on him. As I see it, Brandon's miserable with what's going on. I don't know if I would have been mature enough at 26 to handle the fall from All-Star to where he's at today without letting a bit of my misery out on my teammates. It's not great behavior, but I think it's pretty understandable. As a Blazer fan, I'd rather support the guy as long as he's trying to get better and hope that the team can salvage something out of the season.
 
Roy wants to win. Roy/Miller is 11-14 this season. I think that's Roys biggest problem. It doesn't work. In the one game without Miller, Roy easily got to the basket on several possessions, he got to the line 9 times, and we won the game. Please don't turn on Roy, guys. You're like a broken record, turning on Sheed, then, Zach, now Roy.

Look, do you care more about Miller playing well on a losing team or the chance to play better with the right personnel around Roy? Dammit, get it done. Mo Williams, Jamal Crawford, JASON TERRY (in three way to get Dallas Melo?), or even Boobie Gibson. C'mon, Cho. Fix it.
 
This picture captures the tension quite nicely:

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Oh, absolutely for certain true. I mean, media guys never get anything wrong. Has to be true. We saw it on the interwebs.

I think the tone means you are being sarcastic? If I'm right, its nothing that media has done to smear Brandon. We've seen diva like behavior in his quotes. Throwing teammates under the bus, when clearly he is the problem with the team right now.
 
Miller's been professional, I mean after his little tirade with Nate, that is.

Are we playing the pick sides game?

I mean seriously. Like Miller, or not. He's been the most consistent player on the team this year.
 
Roy wants to win. Roy/Miller is 11-14 this season. I think that's Roys biggest problem. It doesn't work. In the one game without Miller, Roy easily got to the basket on several possessions, he got to the line 9 times, and we won the game. Please don't turn on Roy, guys. You're like a broken record, turning on Sheed, then, Zach, now Roy.

Look, do you care more about Miller playing well on a losing team or the chance to play better with the right personnel around Roy? Dammit, get it done. Mo Williams, Jamal Crawford, JASON TERRY (in three way to get Dallas Melo?), or even Boobie Gibson. C'mon, Cho. Fix it.

People mistake, "turning on him" with realizing that he isn't what he used to be, and most likely never will be. Roy's a great guy, great representative of the city, did great things in Blazer uni. But, lets just be realistic, he isn't what he used to be so we shouldn't keep the offense designed around him and we certainly shouldn't trade for players to keep him happy.

I think without a doubt that he's a diva though. I think the straw that broke the camels back was when we traded away his boys, Outlaw and Blake. He's been pissy every since.
 
Funny thing is, this isn't the first time Roy has done this.

Hi Zach :smiley-beljise_har:
 

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