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So, if any one of you have the time to waste, I wouldn’t mind be clued in on who this “tunchi” poster was and the drama behind his banning. I was there for all the episodes of Hap/Dan, PapaG, MIXUM, and a couple more that I’m forgetting, but I totally missed this “tunchi” episode.

Don’t want to derail the thread (looks to already been derailed), so you can PM me with the juicy details. :bgrin:

I too, have no idea who the fuck Tunchi is either.
 
honestly though, if you kill my grandchild I want you to fry

Of course you would. I would too, if someone I cared about was murdered, and I'm against the death penalty. That's why we don't and shouldn't let the family of the victim set the penalty--none of us are robots who can examine ethics, the flaws in our justice system, etc, dispassionately when someone we love was harmed. Emotion takes over and the desire for vengeance. I don't think a desire for vengeance is a good way to determine punishment in our society.
 
Of course you would. I would too, if someone I cared about was murdered, and I'm against the death penalty. That's why we don't and shouldn't let the family of the victim set the penalty--none of us are robots who can examine ethics, the flaws in our justice system, etc, dispassionately when someone we love was harmed. Emotion takes over and the desire for vengeance. I don't think a desire for vengeance is a good way to determine punishment in our society.
I don't find justice in letting a serial killer get a college degree...free medical and dental...free tv and shelter...a gym to lift weights and a million dollars for a book deal or movie rights because he committed horrible crimes....and keep them there on my tax dollar for decades...I think it has to be a murder beyond any reasonable doubt for the death penalty...there should be no question as to guilt but I don't believe the taking of an innocent life constitutes becoming a lifetime prisoner.
 
Of course you would. I would too, if someone I cared about was murdered, and I'm against the death penalty. That's why we don't and shouldn't let the family of the victim set the penalty--none of us are robots who can examine ethics, the flaws in our justice system, etc, dispassionately when someone we love was harmed. Emotion takes over and the desire for vengeance. I don't think a desire for vengeance is a good way to determine punishment in our society.

Absolute drivel.

Passion and Emotion = Real Human Being.

It's what defines us as the ultimate creation in the universe.

You indicate we should be ruled and governed by dis-associated robots, presumably built by the least-passionate humans available.
 
Absolute drivel.

Passion and Emotion = Real Human Being.

It's what defines us as the ultimate creation in the universe.

You indicate we should be ruled and governed by dis-associated robots, presumably built by the least-passionate humans available.

No, I'm saying we shouldn't be ruled by the primal fear and anger that animates MAGA types. We also shouldn't be ruled by the type of racism endemic to Trump and his supporters.

It doesn't take dispassionate robots to avoid that fate. Most normal humans can manage it.
 
Fun or not, I think having a VPN is well worth the money, especially if you travel abroad often. If you’ve ever traveled to some of the Asian countries, there are certain websites that are blocked. Some contents on Netflix are inaccessible in certain regions. Hell, I couldn’t get on s2 without using a VPN when I was in Ha Noi, Vietnam (travesty, I know!).

I use a VPN to watch shows on Dave, that aren't broadcast here.
 
I used to be staunchly for the death penalty. It always came down to the question of what I would like done to anyone that took the life of one of my family members. The quick answer I would give is that if possible, I would kill the murderer with my own hands. As a younger man, I equate what I deemed to be justified vengeance with justice.

I’m not entirely sure if I’m against the death penalty now. There are times when I read about a seriously heinous crime and think, “why waste time, money, and energy on such a vile creature and just put a bullet through his skull and be done with?” It’s obviously never that simple, as the justice system, particularly the process for the death penalty, is far from simple and perfect. The death penalty often cost more money, and far too many people have wrongly been convicted and sentenced to die.

The death penalty is one of the issues that I still struggle to have a firm stance on. I feel that as I’ve gotten older and now raising my own children, I’ve expanded my understanding on the purpose of life. I guess what I’m trying to say is that justice is still very important to me, but vengeance is not.
99% of death penalties are because of an illogical desire for vengeance. Life in prison accomplishes the important aspect without squeezing the life out of someone. And I'm only interested in life in prison for those who can't be reformed.
 
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