Notice Trump Directed Cohen To Lie To Congress

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For months on end people have said "ok this is the thing that does him in..."

I think by next Wednesday we are on to something else.

Nothing matters.
His popularity, even among evangelical Christians and definitely among White married women, is going down.
 
For months on end people have said "ok this is the thing that does him in..."

I think by next Wednesday we are on to something else.

Nothing matters.

Mueller has/is compiling everything. Trump should be very afraid...getting pissed on afraid
 
Don't forget, Cohen is known to have secretly recorded many conversations.

Fake news.

No evidence has been presented to suggest that Cohen taped his client Trump, which would be a felony on his part, which would make the alleged tape inadmissible as evidence.

Attorneys are hired to advise their clients as to how to accomplish their goals in a legal manner, not the other way around.

If any of Cohen’s claims are true, they merely expose him to more liability and lawsuits for deceiving his clients again.
 
Fake news.

No evidence has been presented to suggest that Cohen taped his client Trump, which would be a felony on his part, which would make the alleged tape inadmissible as evidence.

Attorneys are hired to advise their clients as to how to accomplish their goals in a legal manner, not the other way around.

If any of Cohen’s claims are true, they merely expose him to more liability and lawsuits for deceiving his clients again.

First, it's not a felony. Second YES he was taped:

"I need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend David"

 
Here's the thing.

I do not want Trump impeached or forced out. I really don't. And reminder: I think he is the worst thing to happen to this country. He's a liar, flat out stupid and is a total embarrassment.

Here is why: I have zero doubt whatsoever that if he is impeached/removed from office, all this will do is trigger the right to go full force and annihilate whoever goes into office next if it is a Democrat. It will undoubtedly turn into an "oh yeah, you did that, so watch us do this". it will - believe it or not - tear the country even further apart.

The best scenario is he shamefully decides to not run in 2020, and we have an election with anyone resembling a bright, normal, well-intentioned candidate. Whoever wins, learns from dumpy Trumpy and tries his/her best to be a better President.

If he gets forced out, there will be thousands of Brads and Chads with tiki-torches in the streets. We don't need that.
 
Here's the thing.

I do not want Trump impeached or forced out. I really don't. And reminder: I think he is the worst thing to happen to this country. He's a liar, flat out stupid and is a total embarrassment.

Here is why: I have zero doubt whatsoever that if he is impeached/removed from office, all this will do is trigger the right to go full force and annihilate whoever goes into office next if it is a Democrat. It will undoubtedly turn into an "oh yeah, you did that, so watch us do this". it will - believe it or not - tear the country even further apart.

The best scenario is he shamefully decides to not run in 2020, and we have an election with anyone resembling a bright, normal, well-intentioned candidate. Whoever wins, learns from dumpy Trumpy and tries his/her best to be a better President.

If he gets forced out, there will be thousands of Brads and Chads with tiki-torches in the streets. We don't need that.

I think you are correct. No matter how much evidence is laid out, there is a substantial minority of the population that will simply refuse to believe it - and will be very angry. And Pence isn't necessarily better. The next election is coming, hopefully Trump will not do too much damage in the meantime.

barfo
 
Here's the thing.

I do not want Trump impeached or forced out. I really don't. And reminder: I think he is the worst thing to happen to this country. He's a liar, flat out stupid and is a total embarrassment.

Here is why: I have zero doubt whatsoever that if he is impeached/removed from office, all this will do is trigger the right to go full force and annihilate whoever goes into office next if it is a Democrat. It will undoubtedly turn into an "oh yeah, you did that, so watch us do this". it will - believe it or not - tear the country even further apart.

The best scenario is he shamefully decides to not run in 2020, and we have an election with anyone resembling a bright, normal, well-intentioned candidate. Whoever wins, learns from dumpy Trumpy and tries his/her best to be a better President.

If he gets forced out, there will be thousands of Brads and Chads with tiki-torches in the streets. We don't need that.
No, if he is forced out there will not be thousands with tiki torches on the streets. That’s definitely a stretch. A major one
 
No, if he is forced out there will not be thousands with tiki torches on the streets. That’s definitely a stretch. A major one

I think if their supreme leader is shamed out of office at the hands of GASP a woman (Pelosi) and GASP a Liberal, I think the Tikis come out full force. Hope not, but wouldn't surprise me. Put yourself in some part of the country (not Oregon) where people love Trump, think he's doing a bang-up job on all fronts. All good. Nancy Pelosi and some black people make him quit - all hell's gonna break loose.
 
I think if their supreme leader is shamed out of office at the hands of GASP a woman (Pelosi) and GASP a Liberal, I think the Tikis come out full force. Hope not, but wouldn't surprise me. Put yourself in some part of the country (not Oregon) where people love Trump, think he's doing a bang-up job on all fronts. All good. Nancy Pelosi and some black people make him quit - all hell's gonna break loose.
I think you’re over estimating the amount of tiki torch dudes by a lot. Yeah people would be mad and there would be a small group of extremes but nothing close to thousands. I would bet on it.
 
I think you’re over estimating the amount of tiki torch dudes by a lot. Yeah people would be mad and there would be a small group of extremes but nothing close to thousands. I would bet on it.

The Tiki torch thing is just a joke. I just mean that it will piss off the right so much that they will want revenge. That much I do know - there is no doubt about that. I think they want it regardless, but if Trump rides off into the sunset "on his own" there will be much less.....anger. And yes, this goes both ways.
 
Here's the thing.

I do not want Trump impeached or forced out. I really don't. And reminder: I think he is the worst thing to happen to this country. He's a liar, flat out stupid and is a total embarrassment.

Here is why: I have zero doubt whatsoever that if he is impeached/removed from office, all this will do is trigger the right to go full force and annihilate whoever goes into office next if it is a Democrat. It will undoubtedly turn into an "oh yeah, you did that, so watch us do this". it will - believe it or not - tear the country even further apart.

The best scenario is he shamefully decides to not run in 2020, and we have an election with anyone resembling a bright, normal, well-intentioned candidate. Whoever wins, learns from dumpy Trumpy and tries his/her best to be a better President.

If he gets forced out, there will be thousands of Brads and Chads with tiki-torches in the streets. We don't need that.

I disagree completely.

It is our RESPONSIBILITY to impeach a president who does what he's done. If we don't WE are the total embarrassment.
 
I disagree completely.

It is our RESPONSIBILITY to impeach a president who does what he's done. If we don't WE are the total embarrassment.

In theory of course you are right. In reality I don’t think we can afford to see it happen. I truly think it’ll cause total mayhem.
 
I think you’re over estimating the amount of tiki torch dudes by a lot. Yeah people would be mad and there would be a small group of extremes but nothing close to thousands. I would bet on it.

It's like addiction with you..:

Justification.
Rationalization.
Minimization.
 
I truly think it’ll cause total mayhem.

I disagree.

For impeachment we'd need republicans and they'd have to explain to their base WHY they voted for it.

There are also 22 Republican Senators up for reelection in 2020. They will splinter off one by one.
 
For impeachment we'd need republicans and they'd have to explain to their base WHY they voted for it.

There are also 22 Republican Senators up for reelection in 2020. They will splinter off one by one.

I don’t think their base is capable of sitting there, listening, understanding and nodding in agreement that their boy Trump fucked up. That would be admitting they followed the exact guy their enemy has been bitching about for three years. They won’t do it.
 
I disagree completely.

It is our RESPONSIBILITY to impeach a president who does what he's done. If we don't WE are the total embarrassment.

Well, technically congress, not us. But I get your point.

If the Republican senators vote overwhelmingly to convict him, it may lessen the anger of the base (or at least redirect it at the republican senators, which would be just fine with me).

barfo
 
It's like addiction with you..:

Justification.
Rationalization.
Minimization.
What would I be justifying and rationalizing? Do you think before you speak? Honestly
 
Honestly I want him gone. I’m so tired of hearing about the guy and him being the excuse for division in the country. Get somebody else in preferably a Democrat so people can just shut up about it as well as see the division stick around. However I don’t think pence would be in anybody’s interest over trump for the next year but at this point I don’t care. The trump hysteria needs to stop
 

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