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Im not really upset about this... Confused, but not outraged...

What kind of “people” did he think he was inviting? Did he think negotiating peace was a possibility? Why would he tweet this out?

Its strange...
 
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UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
C’mon Maris, if you didn’t serve you have no right to accuse or insinuate. And please don’t tell us what you would have done in the same situation. Sorry, but this is one area where you are genuinely uninformed.
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Wrong on all accounts. River man freely confessed, I didn’t accuse him of anything.

As for not serving in the military this is the reason I chose not to; the handing over of my personal responsibility to someone else, anyone else, who may be less moral, less compassionate, less decisive, less efficient, less intelligent, less lethal, and just following orders, who might order me to kill someone I don’t know specifically deserves killing. Maybe the guy is just defending his family and farm from invading armies, and nothing more. If he comes to LaPine with evil intent then it’s a different matter.
I would not make a good obedient soldier nor improve the military were I to join. I was not drafted so I escaped making the choice between prison and Canada.
I realize the necessity to have the most effective military in the world and 11 years of my Federal employment was in the US Army Corps of Engineers. I worked in the printing and photography department, had top secret clearance, proof read and printed some eye opening stuff nobody will ever hear about.
Some good, some bad.
 
calvin natt said:
Not being upset about it to me seems incredible is all.
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Im a very calm person, sometimes to the point that it frustrates me that Im not happier or more upset about situations that come up.

I realize why this particular subject is upsetting to people. My reaction is more of just being perplexed because it seems so stupid... Seems like theres gotta be more to the story.
 
calvin natt said:
Maris and ABM: If you could, please explain how one can defend this topic. Would love to hear it. Please share the rationale behind inviting the Taliban to Camp David.
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The rationale behind arranging peace talks aimed at ending America’s longest war should be obvious to any American.
 
julius said:
I think we're also a nation of short attention span thinkers. The old saying is "if it bleeds, it leads" should be changed to "hey look, SQUIRREL!"


I think it's because he thinks it's like a business. No one in business was trying to kill Trump, so inviting them to negotiate wasn't considered stupid. He's trying to run the nation, and deal with other nations, like you do in business.
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Which is the only realistic way to do it, and it is working exceedingly well.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I can only imaging the outrage and abuse from the right had Obama invited the Taliban to the US during his time in office. He would have literally been crucified......that Trump cancelled the meeting (or so we’re told) is utterly irrelevant.
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Obama invited large numbers of taliban to come to the US illegally, many have been arrested recently, there’s been no outrage.
 
Clinton invited Arafat to Camp Dave with zero outrage.
 
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I have to give you credit, you've never broken character.
 
MARIS61 said:
Wrong on all accounts. River man freely confessed, I didn’t accuse him of anything.

As for not serving in the military this is the reason I chose not to; the handing over of my personal responsibility to someone else, anyone else, who may be less moral, less compassionate, less decisive, less efficient, less intelligent, less lethal, and just following orders, who might order me to kill someone I don’t know specifically deserves killing. Maybe the guy is just defending his family and farm from invading armies, and nothing more. If he comes to LaPine with evil intent then it’s a different matter.
I would not make a good obedient soldier nor improve the military were I to join. I was not drafted so I escaped making the choice between prison and Canada.
I realize the necessity to have the most effective military in the world and 11 years of my Federal employment was in the US Army Corps of Engineers. I worked in the printing and photography department, had top secret clearance, proof read and printed some eye opening stuff nobody will ever hear about.
Some good, some bad.
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Sounds like you want everything America has to offer without putting any skin into the game, while criticizing those who gave skin....or even more. Rationalization 101. Got it. Why do you hate America????
 
Elevates Taliban to status of head of state. As usual no preparation, no agenda, no plan. A photo op
 
Haven’t heard the taliban mentioned in awhile. I thought we forgot about them and found a new boogeyman.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Sounds like you want everything America has to offer without putting any skin into the game, while criticizing those who gave skin....or even more. Rationalization 101. Got it. Why do you hate America????
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I like the way he thinks I confessed to military censorship and propaganda..as a guy who worked in a combat zone as a radioman .....I won't bother to tell him the other stories....there are plenty. I worked for Nixon's team whether I liked it or not....that sure worked out well in the end eh? The leaders of the anti war protest movement stateside were mostly war vets. Vets had a lot to do with ending that war. I don't even consider taking his posts seriously anymore...sad...another guy throwing bags of shit on vets returning from war. I was getting drafted whether I wanted to join or not.
 
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calvin natt said:
And how is that the same? (It isn’t close)
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Yeah, I'm perplexed by that too. Though I suspect it'll be some unrelated, fallacious rambling nonsensical answer, with a dash of "Real American" thrown in here and there, with a topping of Central Oregon/La Pine clap trap for flavor.
 
riverman said:
I like the way he thinks I confessed to military censorship and propaganda..as a guy who worked in a combat zone as a radioman .....I won't bother to tell him the other stories....there are plenty. I worked for Nixon's team whether I liked it or not....that sure worked out well in the end eh? The leaders of the anti war protest movement stateside were mostly war vets. Vets had a lot to do with ending that war. I don't even consider taking his posts seriously anymore...sad...another guy throwing bags of shit on vets returning from war. I was getting drafted whether I wanted to join or not.
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Have you noticed that some of the most "patriotic" and gung ho for war people, are those who never actually fought in any war or served?

He's going full on character mode now. It's impressive from a certain point of view.

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riverman said:
I like the way he thinks I confessed to military censorship and propaganda..as a guy who worked in a combat zone as a radioman .....I won't bother to tell him the other stories....there are plenty. I worked for Nixon's team whether I liked it or not....that sure worked out well in the end eh? The leaders of the anti war protest movement stateside were mostly war vets. Vets had a lot to do with ending that war. I don't even consider taking his posts seriously anymore...sad...another guy throwing bags of shit on vets returning from war. I was getting drafted whether I wanted to join or not.
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I’m not a huge fan of war or the military for that matter. I did not enjoy my time in the military and I certainly didn’t make the effort to to be all I could be. But the military is a necessary evil and I volunteered. So I had/have no one to blame but myself. And it’s why I try to thank vets when I see them. Often that thank you might seem trite or overworked, but these folks volunteered, regardless of reason or motivation. They have no choice but to go where they are sent and to perform whatever tasks are assigned. Shit happens. Real democracy is messy, with a lot of moving parts. Sometime we have to do things we don’t agree with. Guys like @MARIS61 want to live in a democracy that suits their individual needs without doing any of the work, while criticizing those who are actually working to keep democracy limping along in an increasingly authoritarian world. But then, he’s just exercising the rights democracy allows him......
 
jonnyboy said:
Haven’t heard the taliban mentioned in awhile. I thought we forgot about them and found a new boogeyman.
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It's been in the news everyday this week.....if you haven't heard you haven't paid attention
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I’m not a huge fan of war or the military for that matter. I did not enjoy my time in the military and I certainly didn’t make the effort to to be all I could be. But the military is a necessary evil and I volunteered. So I had/have no one to blame but myself. And it’s why I try to thank vets when I see them. Often that thank you might seem trite or overworked, but these folks volunteered, regardless of reason or motivation. They have no choice but to go where they are sent and to perform whatever tasks are assigned. Shit happens. Real democracy is messy, with a lot of moving parts. Sometime we have to do things we don’t agree with. Guys like @MARIS61 want to live in a democracy that suits their individual needs without doing any of the work, while criticizing those who are actually working to keep democracy limping along in an increasingly authoritarian world. But then, he’s just exercising the rights democracy allows him......
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good post.....I joined to keep out of the army and get some schooling. There was some self preservation involved...I had a great job for the situation.
 
I am Vietnam generation. There were those who supported the war and served. I don't agree with them but they did what they thought was right. There were those who opposed the war but when called served because they thought it was their duty or simply didn't have much choice; it's not like turning down a civilian job offer. Serve, leave country, go to prison. I understand those who figured a 2-year stint and then done was their best option. And there were those who opposed the war and did not serve. They also did what they thought was right. The ones for whom I have zero respect are those who were so gung-ho supporting the war but refused to serve, like Cheney & Trump.

Meanwhile, back to topic, Maris once again shows he does not know history. There is no comparison between Taliban and Arafat. The United Nations had designated the Palestine Liberation Organization as the official representative of Palestinian people and Arafat was PLO chairman, so regardless of what you think of Arafat and/or PLO, any peace negotiation between Palestine and Israel had to include his input or it wouldn't happen. Taliban has no such status. And despite PLO status there was significant protest among some Israelis as well as in the US and Europe over including Arafat. So once again Maris is wrong twice over.

Just another attempt by Trump cultist to divert attention from the Chosen One's absolute incompetence.
 
crandc said:
I am Vietnam generation. There were those who supported the war and served. I don't agree with them but they did what they thought was right. There were those who opposed the war but when called served because they thought it was their duty or simply didn't have much choice; it's not like turning down a civilian job offer. Serve, leave country, go to prison. I understand those who figured a 2-year stint and then done was their best option. And there were those who opposed the war and did not serve. They also did what they thought was right. The ones for whom I have zero respect are those who were so gung-ho supporting the war but refused to serve, like Cheney & Trump.

Meanwhile, back to topic, Maris once again shows he does not know history. There is no comparison between Taliban and Arafat. The United Nations had designated the Palestine Liberation Organization as the official representative of Palestinian people and Arafat was PLO chairman, so regardless of what you think of Arafat and/or PLO, any peace negotiation between Palestine and Israel had to include his input or it wouldn't happen. Taliban has no such status. And despite PLO status there was significant protest among some Israelis as well as in the US and Europe over including Arafat. So once again Maris is wrong twice over.

Just another attempt by Trump cultist to divert attention from the Chosen One's absolute incompetence.
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He knows they're not comparable, he's doing it as a troll, to get a reaction out of people.
 
julius said:
He knows they're not comparable, he's doing it as a troll, to get a reaction out of people.
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I agree. So what is the policy regarding those who blatantly troll the forum? Whatever that is, should be implemented.
 
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