Politics Trump just gutted the law that saved American bald eagles from extinction

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MarAzul said:
Well, there are at least three nest I could see on my way into where I am anchored right now. Beautiful in here, about three quarter of a mile back up a slough off the Columbia, across from Puget Island.
I see no threat these days to the Bald Eagle or the Osprey. They are all around most places I go up here in the North West. They seem to be doing fine. The threat that damn near did them in is pretty much a thing of the past. The law does need to be revisted.
So does the law that pasted a year later, protecting marine mammals. Holy hell, the environment is overrun with Sea Lions. There never was a shortage, but geez, now there are more than the fish. We need to import some Orcas that know how about eating
Sea lions, perhaps even on open season on the buggers. The Indians used to hunt them but only are permitted a few in places like Neah Bay and Quinault. Dang! Smoked salmon marinated in salt brine of Sea Lion oil is excellent!

Btw, bass a jumping all round here, quite a place to park and watch. Did you know Bald Eagles mostly hunt fish? I watch one snatch one up just about 2 hours ago.
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Sea lions need to be killed/managed, or on the food chain in the columbia and willamette!
 
MARIS61 said:
This has nothing whatsoever to do with allowing clear-cutting and/or the building of shopping malls on any public land, forested or otherwise.
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oh, so you want manufacturing facilities and warehousing in La Pine? Property is pretty reasonable. Toss out the regulations and start building away. Whoopee. I'll be sure to let trumpy know you are all for it.
 
tlongII said:
Bald eagle are doing fine. I see them all the time.
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Now you do. And that's thanks to our environmental regulations that Trump is now going to gut.
There were plenty of Bald Eagles before DDT but we all know what happened with the large scale use of DDT.
I think most of us can tell what will happen to many species including Bald Eagles with the gutting of environmental regulations. Care to take a guess?
 
Hoopguru said:
People are commuting to work from there as a bedroom community.
And whats cool is its a nice little mountain town tucked on the Great Clack for a lot less mortgage than a total stamp lot in PDX.
The 1/2 hour drive into Clackamas isn't that bad.
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Only a fool would live in Estacada and commute to downtown Portland. Life's too short to be spending that much time on the road.
I've only been to Estacada once and that was to go to Vortex from my home in NW Portland. Hell of a drive.
 
Lanny said:
Now you do. And that's thanks to our environmental regulations that Trump is now going to gut.
There were plenty of Bald Eagles before DDT but we all know what happened with the large scale use of DDT.
I think most of us can tell what will happen to many species including Bald Eagles with the gutting of environmental regulations. Care to take a guess?
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I don’t think the changes to the regulations will be allowing DDT use.
 
tlongII said:
I don’t think the changes to the regulations will be allowing DDT use.
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Do you think all dangers to our environment involve DDT? Tsk, tsk.
 
Lanny said:
Now you do. And that's thanks to our environmental regulations that Trump is now going to gut.
There were plenty of Bald Eagles before DDT but we all know what happened with the large scale use of DDT.
I think most of us can tell what will happen to many species including Bald Eagles with the gutting of environmental regulations. Care to take a guess?
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WTF!
He did not take the ban off DDT.
 
Lanny said:
Only a fool would live in Estacada and commute to downtown Portland. Life's too short to be spending that much time on the road.
I've only been to Estacada once and that was to go to Vortex from my home in NW Portland. Hell of a drive.
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People drive it all the time Lanny it's one of the more affordable areas that young can get a mortgage.
My business partner used to drive from Sandy Oregon to Tualatin, 1 hour each way. he would come early and leave early to beat the crazy SW portland traffic.
This Sate is one of the worst for income as a percentage of housing cost. And not everyone can afford to live where we do.
Now that many people can work from home location isn't as critical.
 
Lanny said:
Only a fool would live in Estacada and commute to downtown Portland. Life's too short to be spending that much time on the road.
I've only been to Estacada once and that was to go to Vortex from my home in NW Portland. Hell of a drive.
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Hell, I can remember riding into Estacada on a loggin Truck to get patched up when I was a riggin slinger. Nice little town. A school mate of mine was the Mayor there some years back.
 
Lanny said:
Only a fool would live in Estacada and commute to downtown Portland. Life's too short to be spending that much time on the road.
I've only been to Estacada once and that was to go to Vortex from my home in NW Portland. Hell of a drive.
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I forgot you are a retired engineer, one of those guys that are very happy siting in a cubicle all day. I worked for a Fortune 200 Company from the mid-west and the engineers were all in their own worlds.
Great guys & gals though.
 
Speaking of DDT. Clackamas County used to spray the hell out of us with DDT. Mosquitoes be gone though!
I was just looking to see what their Vector control is now. Not much info.
Can anyone may sense of this budget?
http://fightthebites.com/budget/
 
MarAzul said:
Speaking of DDT. Clackamas County used to spray the hell out of us with DDT. Mosquitoes be gone though!
I was just looking to see what their Vector control is now. Not much info.
Can anyone may sense of this budget?
http://fightthebites.com/budget/
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Main thing I see is that they haven't updated their budget page for a few years now.

barfo
 
Luxury condos are so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.
 
Hoopguru said:
People drive it all the time Lanny it's one of the more affordable areas that young can get a mortgage.
My business partner used to drive from Sandy Oregon to Tualatin, 1 hour each way. he would come early and leave early to beat the crazy SW portland traffic.
This Sate is one of the worst for income as a percentage of housing cost. And not everyone can afford to live where we do.
Now that many people can work from home location isn't as critical.
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Do you have any idea how long it takes to drive from Estacada to downtown Portland during rush hour and then a similar drive home after work? Yes, Estacada is beautiful but not a great place to live if you work in downtown Portland during a weekday during normal business hours. The drive alone eats up most of your free time leaving only enough time to shower, eat and sleep and maybe some shopping.
 
Lanny said:
Do you have any idea how long it takes to drive from Estacada to downtown Portland during rush hour and then a similar drive home after work? Yes, Estacada is beautiful but not a great place to live if you work in downtown Portland during a weekday during normal business hours. The drive alone eats up most of your free time leaving only enough time to shower, eat and sleep and maybe some shopping.
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Yes during traffic hour to down town Portland would be stressful and sacrificing. Its very similar to those that work in NY City, Chicago, SF and even Seattle that cant afford to live close by. Many in those cities do commute to work and back even under crazy traffic situations and time constraints.
My son who's a excavator purchased 10 acres in Estacada so he can have his equipment and office there as it is affordable. Id much rather drive an hour to work each way than not be able to own a home in Portland proper. Besides people waste up to 2 hours a day on the computer or other things.
 
Lanny said:
Do you have any idea how long it takes to drive from Estacada to downtown Portland during rush hour and then a similar drive home after work? Yes, Estacada is beautiful but not a great place to live if you work in downtown Portland during a weekday during normal business hours. The drive alone eats up most of your free time leaving only enough time to shower, eat and sleep and maybe some shopping.
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There are a number of teachers in the Estacada/Sandy school district that comment from parts of Portland. For some Im sure they were not able to gain employment close by and were willing to make the sacrifice?
 
Hoopguru said:
Yes during traffic hour to down town Portland would be stressful and sacrificing. Its very similar to those that work in NY City, Chicago, SF and even Seattle that cant afford to live close by. Many in those cities do commute to work and back even under crazy traffic situations and time constraints.
My son who's a excavator purchased 10 acres in Estacada so he can have his equipment and office there as it is affordable. Id much rather drive an hour to work each way than not be able to own a home in Portland proper. Besides people waste up to 2 hours a day on the computer or other things.
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Hey, that's more than an hour's drive during normal rush hour and quitting time.
Thank God we don't live in New York City or Chicago or San Francisco or even gorgeous Seattle.
If I wanted to live in the country and work in Portland and needed affordable real estate I'd move to the Hillsboro area, perhaps out Farmington road or out in Rock Creek. Still a tough drive but better than Estacada.
Did you know that they have two active murder investigations going on in Estacada?
They also have a deadly stretch of highway out there.
 
Lanny said:
Hey, that's more than an hour's drive during normal rush hour and quitting time.
Thank God we don't live in New York City or Chicago or San Francisco or even gorgeous Seattle.
If I wanted to live in the country and work in Portland and needed affordable real estate I'd move to the Hillsboro area, perhaps out Farmington road or out in Rock Creek. Still a tough drive but better than Estacada.
Did you know that they have two active murder investigations going on in Estacada?
They also have a deadly stretch of highway out there.
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I did hear about the 2 bodies found at a gravel pit.
I spent much of my kid days up the Clackamas & Timothy Lake. I as was in explorer scouts and loved fishing. Still do Timothy Lake a time or two in late spring early summer.
Prices out in Hillsboro and Rock Creek our still way higher than Estacada.
 
Hoopguru said:
I did hear about the 2 bodies found at a gravel pit.
I spent much of my kid days up the Clackamas & Timothy Lake. I as was in explorer scouts and loved fishing. Still do Timothy Lake a time or two in late spring early summer.
Prices out in Hillsboro and Rock Creek our still way higher than Estacada.
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I was a boy scout and before that a cub scout. I also loved fishing but did most of mine on Oswego Lake and Tryon Creek. Later, I did some steelhead fishing in South Western Oregon around Coos Bay.
I remember when I was a little tyke I spent part of a summer in summer camp on the Clackamas river.
We had a guy who worked with me at Tektronix who lived in Banks on a creek. Wow, that was gorgeous. However, that was in the early 70s when traffic was light and he only had to drive down Hwy 26 to Beaverton. Lots of cheap property out there but driving to downtown Portland from there today would be a nightmare.
A couple of the Veterans Transportation Services bus drivers live somewhere near Larch mountain and drive to work at the VA hospital in Portland but they have to spend a lot of time driving and then have ice and snow in the winter to contend with. Now, that's truly God's country.
 
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