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Wait, so Trump would be an illegal since his mother was if he somehow pulls this off. (He won't)
 
The argument though is that the 14th already contains the phrase "born or naturalized in the United States", separate from the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof". If being born on US soil automatically means they're also subject to US jurisdiction, why would both phrases be included?

The existence of the second phrase does seem to suggest different criteria from the first.

Criteria was established long ago and accepted. Those born in the USA are citizens period.
 
Criteria was established long ago and accepted. Those born in the USA are citizens period.
Based on current interpretation of the 14th, yes. If that interpretation changes, then who knows?
 
Based on current interpretation of the 14th, yes. If that interpretation changes, then who knows?

why should the interpretation change? It has already been established. So are we going to continue to change amendments at a whim of a president every time a new one is elected?
 
I will say that a major difference seems to be that the Russian women (as I understand it) were having their babies in the US, obtaining US citizenship for their children, and then returning to Russia, for the purpose of the child being able to utilize that citizenship in their adulthood. This is contrasted with families who travel to the United States, have their children here, and then use their child's citizenship as an argument for why the non-citizen parent(s) should be permitted to stay rather than return to their home country.

So.. Manchurian candidate anyone????

MFs are talking about Smallpox when the last known case was in fucking 78'.....
 
I should have just said they don't stick out like a sore thumb.

If you believe that 11 million bullshit.....ha!

If you believe that 30 million bullshit, ha!

CONSERVATIVES came up with the 12 million number...
 
FUCK Donald Drumpf

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I'd laugh at you for getting a taste of your own medicine but no. I wouldn't be glad to have them.

Maybe this analogy will help. It is the closest thing I can think of to explain it.

I belong to a gym. I need the gym because it is good for me. Everyone needs a gym membership for their own good.

If my gym was overcrowded and people were just walking in without paying while I paid my dues every month I'd be pissed.

Seems like a lot of these new people are paying the same amount as you to join, and maybe not even being allowed to use the locker room. Maybe you just don't like the gym getting crowded.

barfo
 
I'd laugh at you for getting a taste of your own medicine but no. I wouldn't be glad to have them.

Maybe this analogy will help. It is the closest thing I can think of to explain it.

I belong to a gym. I need the gym because it is good for me. Everyone needs a gym membership for their own good.

If my gym was overcrowded and people were just walking in without paying while I paid my dues every month I'd be pissed.

President Bush was glad to have them. So was Jeb. So much so he married a Latina.

RONALD REAGAN was glad to have them.....
 
Seems like a lot of these new people are paying the same amount as you to join, and maybe not even being allowed to use the locker room. Maybe you just don't like the gym getting crowded.

barfo
Absolutely don't like it being overcrowded. If the owners are selling new memberships they can't handle I'd be irritated.

How many able bodied Americans don't work? Too many
 
While not personal insults let's try to focus the discussion on the topic instead of calling out/baiting others into arguments. Not saying either of you have done anything wrong, I just want to avoid this turning into a shit show.
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Absolutely don't like it being overcrowded. If the owners are selling new memberships they can't handle I'd be irritated.

There are other gyms in town.

barfo
 
But the child didn't come here.

In most cases the child was already a viable fetus before the thought of invading a foreign country to stick it's citizens with the financial burden of delivering and raising it even occurred to it's lazy, irresponsible parents.
 
One thing is crystal clear, no child born to non-citizens in a "Sanctuary City/State" is eligible for US citizenship, due to the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof".
 
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Jesus... Y'all will say anything to follow that racist to the ends of the earth...

He'll even go as far as teaching basic US History to you.

Amazing that you don't know your rights as a citizen and how/why/when they were guaranteed by our Founding Fathers.
 
The United States and Canada are the only developed nations in the world to still offer Birthright Citizenship to tourists and illegal aliens.
 
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