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Fact-checking Donald Dump

Some of the highlights if you're just looking for a high-level summary:


"Facts First: Trump’s figure is false."...

"Facts First: Both parts of Trump’s claim are false."...

"Facts First: As we have written repeatedly, it’s not true"...


"Facts First: Trump’s claims are false"...

"Facts First: Trump’s claim is not true, just as it was when he made similar claims as president."...

"Facts First: This is false"...

"Facts First: This is misleading."...

"Facts First: It’s not true"...

"Facts First: This claim is false."...

"Facts First: It’s not even close to true"...
 
One person apparently liked it when 3000 Americans died weekly from Covid.
 
...keep in mind that @TBpup is mainly talking about the "economy" / stock market being in a better trend period :dunno: it's a very common sentiment from anyone working in the financial sector when looking at their bottom line / retirement accounts

So I guess yeah, the "economy" was better before Joe Biden caused a world wide inflation and covid.
 
Fuck Trump and whatever bullshit he's pretending to do...he's a hack, a loser, a liar and not worth our time. Lock the crook up and forget about him.
 
Can we get better people to run? Trump was unpresidential, but I liked how things were a lot better then than under the current guy who gets lost on every stage, and thinks the border/drugs/human trafficking isn't an issue. Not excited about either, but if I compare the two time periods, so far Trump's was better.

Sad that these are the choices we have.
Oh man
 
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Can we get better people to run? Trump was unpresidential, but I liked how things were a lot better then than under the current guy who gets lost on every stage, and thinks the border/drugs/human trafficking isn't an issue. Not excited about either, but if I compare the two time periods, so far Trump's was better.

Sad that these are the choices we have.
While I agree that we need better candidates, I don't see how anything was better under Trump.

Like, at all. He was an effing catastrophe.
 
I mean, he gave himself an out. Probably because he knows theres bad shit about to go down for t*ump, but he wants those votes so he can lose by less next time. lol.
You're giving him way too much credit.
 
I just don't see a path forward here for the guy and the fact that Graham would start to praise this man again is amazing. He has a small but very vocal following that will go with him to the ends of the earth (why he has followers still baffles me).

Let's say he loses the primaries- Trump will claim it was rigged against him and either run an indy, splitting the R votes and giving the win to the Ds OR most of his followers will probably pout in defiance refusing to vote, again giving the win to the Ds.
Let's say he wins the primaries- I have to think even more Ds and Indys will come out to make sure this man is never president again, again giving the win to the Ds. I just don't see a path forward (barring some historical event) that Trump can ever win and the rest of the GOP has to realize this. They sold their party to this man and now Trump is doing what Trump does with everything, he's destroying it!
 
This is exactly what dems want, its a gift, to guarantee the Presidency for the next several 12 years at least. He is literally tearing the repub party a part.
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This is exactly what dems want, its a gift, to guarantee the Presidency for the next several 12 years at least. He is literally tearing the repub party a part.
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Good, maybe that party will recognize that they need to go back to have some ideology that is not "insult the other guy and win at all costs", and if it's not the Republican party, some other party will come out of it that can be a proper alternative to the Democratic party. But the GOP as it currently stands is a cesspool that makes the normal political parties look like beacons of hope. Let's face it, politics are never pretty, but they have gone to places that are just disgusting even by political standards for democratic countries, they basically are trying to recreate a dictatorship.
 

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