OT Tucker Carlson's Show: Maybe The Most Racist In Cable History

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julius said:
You trusted a writer to be factual because it supports your preconceived notion. The same way that you can say the "dems killing babies" is not "far off" the mark, because that thought supports your (incorrect) preconceived notion.
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I responded and you leap-frogged right over that. Now you just want to play the crickets game? How convenient.
 
ABM said:
I responded and you leap-frogged right over that. Now you just want to play the crickets game? How convenient.
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Some of us have jobs you know.

And no you didn't respond.
 
Chris Craig said:
He did respond.
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Not in the manner he's implying.

And you know how I know that? his only response that was on topic was *before* I suggested he invest in a dictionary.

He even fucking said "fair enough".


His response was just further clarifying that he only wants to find articles that matched his preconceived notion.
 
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julius said:
Not in the manner he's implying.

And you know how I know that? his only response that was on topic was *before* I suggested he invest in a dictionary.

He even fucking said "fair enough".


His response was just further clarifying that he only wants to find articles that matched his preconceived notion.
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And my so-called preconceived notion is that Tucker Carlson's show isn't racist? Call it what you'd like and I'll call it what I'd like. As I mentioned, I don't watch the show. In the OP, I related Jason Whitlock's take on the NYT smear piece. Fair enough.
 
ABM said:
And my so-called preconceived notion is that Tucker Carlson's show isn't racist? Call it what you'd like and I'll call it what I'd like. As I mentioned, I don't watch the show. In the OP, I related Jason Whitlock's take on the NYT smear piece. Fair enough.
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You're thinking micro, I'm talking macro.
 
julius said:
You're thinking micro, I'm talking macro.
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I'm talking reality. Our borders suck. Our current world is crazy and dangerous. I'm no Marty Byrde. Error on the side of safety and security.
 
ABM said:
I'm talking reality. Our borders suck. Our current world is crazy and dangerous. I'm no Marty Byrde. Error on the side of safety and security.
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Brilliant use of a non sequitur
 
julius said:
Brilliant use of a non sequitur
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No problem.

Here's what you said: "You trusted a writer to be factual because it supports your preconceived notion. The same way that you can say the "dems killing babies" is not "far off" the mark, because that thought supports your (incorrect) preconceived notion."

So then, be specific as to what you're perceiving my preconceived notion to be.
 
ABM said:
No problem.

Here's what you said: "You trusted a writer to be factual because it supports your preconceived notion. The same way that you can say the "dems killing babies" is not "far off" the mark, because that thought supports your (incorrect) preconceived notion."

So then, be specific as to what you're perceiving my preconceived notion to be.
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So then you agree that Tucker is racist, and that Dems aren't "killing babies" and that Trump lost the election fair and square.
 
ABM said:
I'm talking reality. Our borders suck. Our current world is crazy and dangerous. I'm no Marty Byrde. Error on the side of safety and security.
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No. Error on the side from freedom, health, and well being.

Erring on the side of safety and security is ruling by fear. That's how authoritarians rule.
 
julius said:
So then you agree that Tucker is racist, and that Dems aren't "killing babies" and that Trump lost the election fair and square.
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How do you figure?
 
Phatguysrule said:
No. Error on the side from freedom, health, and well being.

Erring on the side of safety and security is ruling by fear. That's how authoritarians rule.
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Uhh, no.
 
ABM said:
And my so-called preconceived notion is that Tucker Carlson's show isn't racist? Call it what you'd like and I'll call it what I'd like. As I mentioned, I don't watch the show. In the OP, I related Jason Whitlock's take on the NYT smear piece. Fair enough.
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You haven't watched the show? You didn't read the original article. That shows your take is a preconceived notion. You read Whitlock's piece and took his word for it. You seem to refuse to even give a single thought to the idea that Carlson's show is racist.

There have been many reasons given in this thread why Carlson's show is racist. I've yet to see you give any reason why it's not.
 
ABM said:
How do you figure?
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Carlson has uttered many horrendous and hateful things about immigrants, black people, etc. It's terribly racist.

Democrats having abortions isn't killing babies. Republicans have abortions too, the hypocrites.

Trump lost by over 8,000,000 votes. After all the accusations of voting fraud, no real cases of mass fraud have been found. Most cases of voting fraud I have seen come to light were done by Republicans, voting more than once, voting for dead relatives, etc. Even the far right recount in Arizona came back actually finding Biden won by more than he did. Biden won fair and square and Trump is a sore loser.

That's how I figure.
 
Chris Craig said:
You haven't watched the show? You didn't read the original article. That shows your take is a preconceived notion. You read Whitlock's piece and took his word for it. You seem to refuse to even give a single thought to the idea that Carlson's show is racist.

There have been many reasons given in this thread why Carlson's show is racist. I've yet to see you give any reason why it's not.
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Much of what I read of the NYT (smear) piece that Sly posted (I'm unable to read the NYT as I'm not a subscriber) had to do with immigration, other countries, and the like. I did respond in that light. I think we have a terrible immigration policy, if that's what you want to call it. Being against a seeming free-for-all immigration mindset is not automatically calling someone a racist. Tucker's agains it, I'm against it, many, many Americans are against it. In terms of reading Whitlock's post, why wouldn't I take his word for it. He's a first-hand contributor on the Tucker Carlson Show. That would tell me he's involved with what goes on there. He did have this to say on the matter:

"....Given the projects I’ve been involved in – ESPN’s "The Undefeated," Fox Sports’ "Speak for Yourself," and now "Fearless with Jason Whitlock" – it’s awfully difficult to suggest that I’m anti-black. If so, my career choices and actions are at odds with my alleged animus toward black people.

The New York Times thinks so little of me, Delano Squires, and Royce White that it apparently didn’t cross the minds of one reporter or editor to ask us why we would contribute to the most racist show in cable news history...."
 
ABM said:
Much of what I read of the NYT (smear) piece that Sly posted (I'm unable to read the NYT as I'm not a subscriber) had to do with immigration, other countries, and the like. I did respond in that light. I think we have a terrible immigration policy, if that's what you want to call it. Being against a seeming free-for-all immigration mindset is not automatically calling someone a racist. Tucker's agains it, I'm against it, many, many Americans are against it. In terms of reading Whitlock's post, why wouldn't I take his word for it. He's a first-hand contributor on the Tucker Carlson Show. That would tell me he's involved with what goes on there. He did have this to say on the matter:

"....Given the projects I’ve been involved in – ESPN’s "The Undefeated," Fox Sports’ "Speak for Yourself," and now "Fearless with Jason Whitlock" – it’s awfully difficult to suggest that I’m anti-black. If so, my career choices and actions are at odds with my alleged animus toward black people.

The New York Times thinks so little of me, Delano Squires, and Royce White that it apparently didn’t cross the minds of one reporter or editor to ask us why we would contribute to the most racist show in cable news history...."
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The immigration system is a mess. I can agree on that. We need more judges just for immigration cases. We need a better structure that helps immigrants not one that ostricizes them and forces them to sneak in and work under the the table. We need to be able to get them in, keep tabs on them, give them the supports they need, give them a chance.

But, I digress. It's ok for Carlson to not be happy with the current immigration system, but he is, especially when he is on a public show, responsible for the words he chooses to use and how he chooses to express those displeasures.

It would be one thing if he kept his words aimed at the system itself, but he defames immigrants themselves. He says terrible terrible things about them.

Not to mention the things he says about other people of color.

It's racist and it should be called out.

I don't know that he himself is racist. It may just be that he is an asshole who gets off on pissing people off.

What he is doing is very dangerous either way and very fucked up.


And of course a guy connected to his show and who is Carlson's buddy is going to defend it. Big surprise.
 
Chris Craig said:
It would be one thing if he kept his words aimed at the system itself, but he defames immigrants themselves. He says terrible terrible things about them.

Not to mention the things he says about other people of color.

It's racist and it should be called out.
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You had a really good response, and I appreciate how you laid things out.

As I had mentioned (tongue-in-cheek) earlier in this thread, Tucker's not a racist. He hates everyone the same. Obviously, not true, and I'm certain he's catering to the MAGA types. I haven't watched more than an accumulation of one show in the last few years, so it's a guess.

In this day and age of paid/cable television, and opinion shows, stretches are made on both sides of the isle. If people don't want to listed, don't watch. That's what I did. My wife and I got tired of all the arguing, spinning, conspiracies, and the like.

You mentioned he should be called out. In fact he was....by the NYT. Let's see what happens.

As an aside, the NYT aren't the only ones taking umbrage with Mr. Carlson. LOL

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/dinesh-...max-of-suppressing-his-stolen-election-movie/


Dinesh D’Souza Accuses Tucker Carlson and Newsmax of Suppressing His Stolen Election Movie
 
julius said:
"I have black friends" is not a good counter argument.
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I never understood how this became an “unacceptable” argument as a counter to being called a racist. Wouldn’t having black people in your life that you love and care about make it somewhat evident that you don’t hate black people? I hear people (white liberals, let’s be honest) scoff when someone says they have black friends, but I haven’t heard anyone explain why it holds zero validity. Maybe you can explain?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Tucker Carlson is trash

People who like or agree with Tucker Carlson are also trash

If I have offended anyone by these comments, it means you are the trash I speak of
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I hate to agree with such a confrontational statement. But I can't help it. Well said.
 
This arse panders to racists, he encourages and defends racists, and he stirs up irrational fears and hatreds based on race. In the face of all this, his apologists still deny he is what he so plainly is. There is nothing to gain by making nice with him or the cultists who believe his words.
 
jonnyboy said:
I never understood how this became an “unacceptable” argument as a counter to being called a racist. Wouldn’t having black people in your life that you love and care about make it somewhat evident that you don’t hate black people? I hear people (white liberals, let’s be honest) scoff when someone says they have black friends, but I haven’t heard anyone explain why it holds zero validity. Maybe you can explain?
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Oh Boy.... Here we go.
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