Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!) (1 Viewer)

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[Lanny]

I certainly respected Magic Johnson as a player, when did I say anything beyond that?

It was a joke.

 

[andalusian]

 

[Road Ratt]

Nice, now if we could put up graphs showing how our schools still went downhill under G.W. Bush, as well as Obama. How homeless went up under G.W. Bush, as well as Obama. How poverty has grown under G.W. Bush, as well as Obama. How systemic racism was still a thing under G.W. Bush, as well as Obama. Etc, etc. etc. . Neither party cares about the real problems America is facing. Just the "problems" they want us to care about. Straight up, fuck both parties.

 

[Road Ratt]

 

[andalusian]

Nice, now if we could put up graphs showing how our schools still went downhill under G.W. Bush, as well as Obama. How homeless went up under G.W. Bush, as well as Obama. How poverty has grown under G.W. Bush, as well as Obama.

Not sure what statistics you refer to as far as schools, but homelessness statistics do not support your assertion for the Obama years (not sure about the Bush years).

https://www.statista.com/statistics/555795/estimated-number-of-homeless-people-in-the-us/

Poverty (as a percentage of the population) has gone under the Bush years for sure, especially during the big recession at the end where it stood at 15.1%, it was 12.6% at the end of the Obama administration - so once again, this is just wrong data.

If you have a specific statistics you believe we can find about schools - I would be interested in hearing about them - but frankly, your data about both poverty increase as well as homelessness - is wrong.

The ones I found were percent of highschool graduates, 77.2 at the last year of the Bush administration, 84.6 at the end of the Obama administration, so - at least this statistics does not show it becoming worse during the Obama administration.

 

[Road Ratt]

Not sure what statistics you refer to as far as schools, but homelessness statistics do not support your assertion for the Obama years (not sure about the Bush years).

https://www.statista.com/statistics/555795/estimated-number-of-homeless-people-in-the-us/

Poverty (as a percentage of the population) has gone under the Bush years for sure, especially during the big recession at the end where it stood at 15.1%, it was 12.6% at the end of the Obama administration - so once again, this is just wrong data.

If you have a specific statistics you believe we can find about schools - I would be interested in hearing about them - but frankly, your data about both poverty increase as well as homelessness - is wrong.

The statistics you show, have been heavily manipulated. Even the 5% unemployment under Obama was bullshit.

Edit: Even under Obama I watched as homeless went up in Portland. As well as other U.S. cities.

 

[yankeesince59]

FAKE NEWS !...FAKE NEWS !

 

[BigGameDamian]

I'm still waiting to hear about Trump's health care plan?

 

[lawai'a]

 

[Road Ratt]

 

[speeds]

 

[Chris Craig]

They know Hillary isn't running right?

 

[speeds]

They know Hillary isn't running right?

He's been talking about arresting Obama, too. They're sticking to the classics.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[andalusian]

The statistics you show, have been heavily manipulated. Even the 5% unemployment under Obama was bullshit.

Edit: Even under Obama I watched as homeless went up in Portland. As well as other U.S. cities.

Prove that they were manipulated, otherwise it is a deflection.

As for what you observed in Portland, you confuse anecdotal information for statistical information.

No disrespect, but until you can provide better information, my point stands.

 

[THE HCP]

Female reporter on CNN criticized Pence for repeatedly interrupting both women. Rick Santorum interrupted her.

I noticed that too. I wouldn't read to far into it, they are equal oppertunity interrupters!

 

[Road Ratt]

 

[ABM]

They know Hillary isn't running right?

They're the e-mails between her and Joe talking about starting up a dim sum chain in China.

 

[ABM]

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...ump_voters_are_staying_silent_again_this_year

Trump Voters Are Staying Silent Again This Year

 

[wizenheimer]

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...ump_voters_are_staying_silent_again_this_year

Trump Voters Are Staying Silent Again This Year

if Rasmussen is so smart about silent voters why isn't that weighted in their polling?


https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...ections/election_2020/white_house_watch_oct07

 

[MickZagger]

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...ump_voters_are_staying_silent_again_this_year

Trump Voters Are Staying Silent Again This Year

Out of embarrassment?

 

[ABM]

Out of embarrassment?

Many just don't want to deal with the hassles from the left if they declare.

 

[ehizzy3]

Many don’t want others to know they’re racist

 

[wizenheimer]

Many just don't want to deal with the hassles from the left if they declare.

declare what? that makes no fucking sense, no surprise

we're talking about polling....people are not identified in these polls. They aren't declaring publicly so how the fuck would "the left" know how they answered?

 

[ABM]

declare what? that makes no fucking sense, no surprise

we're talking about polling....people are not identified in these polls. They aren't declaring publicly so how the fuck would "the left" know how they answered?

The point is, these are folks who plan to vote for Trump, but are staying silent because, if they didn't, it would be a hassle defending themselves against their left-wing families, friends, or whomever, and therefore skewing some polls.

From the article:

At this time in the 2016 election cycle with Trump already being regularly bashed by the media, his supporters were similarly less forthcoming about how they intended to vote, and pollsters, with the exception of Rasmussen Reports and a couple others, completely missed Trump's surprise victory.

 

[wizenheimer]

The point is, these are folks who plan to vote for Trump, but are staying silent because, if they didn't, it would be a hassle defending themselves against their left-wing families, friends, or whomever, and therefore skewing some polls.
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I know what the point is and I think it's kind dumb. These people aren't having their answers to a poll recorded on video so their family and friends can have proof of how they answered. They aren't risking exposure as trump voters

but sure, I can see why people would be ashamed they will vote for trump. Anybody with a functioning moral compass would be ashamed of that vote

 

[THE HCP]

The point is, these are folks who plan to vote for Trump, but are staying silent because, if they didn't, it would be a hassle defending themselves against their left-wing families, friends, .

If Trump is such an amazing man and leader, why would they need to defend themselves about supporting him? Has he done something that has offended some? Has he made poor decisions or made any statements that would be considered disrespectful towards others? Has he made poor choices?
If they support him, he speaks for them right?

 

[ABM]

I know what the point is and I think it's kind dumb. These people aren't having their answers to a poll recorded on video so their family and friends can have proof of how they answered. They aren't risking exposure as trump voters

but sure, I can see why people would be ashamed they will vote for trump. Anybody with a functioning moral compass would be ashamed of that vote

Trump's fiscal policies (and results) trump anything I see Biden trotting out. I'll always love the line that Trump has done more in 47 months than Biden has done in 47 years.

 

[ABM]

If Trump is such an amazing man and leader, why would they need to defend themselves about supporting him? Has he done something that has offended some? Has he made poor decisions or made any statements that would be considered disrespectful towards others? Has he made poor choices?
If they support him, he speaks for them right?

Per the article, the same was true in 2016 before he was elected.