Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!)

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ABM said:
When you trot out stuff like this, see, this is the road to all the likes. I just knew I was doing something wrong. I suppose I should care more.
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I don't give a shit about likes. I just don't like sanctimonious posts.

Someone else explain what sanctimonious means to @THE HCP
 
wizenheimer said:
I was the one who said, from my perspective, the both-sides-suck-so never-either was useless and juvenile. I later semi-amended juvenile to naive. RR has made dozens of posts advancing that particular political argument. When I make political arguments here, people are free to label them however they want. I'm prepared to defend my arguments, and I generally have thick enough skin not to get my shit in an uproar when the labels thrown my direction are dismissive

people are free to say the choices for president suck so much that it boils down to a lesser-of-two-evils choice they won't participate in. That's exactly what happened in 2016, and it helped generate the disaster of the last 4 years. So fuck no, I don't respect the position of both-sides-suck. I think the stakes are high enough that playing nice is not always worthwhile
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Amen, brother. I love me some RR posts, but it's hard not to acknowledge the nihilistic approach could do more harm than good this time around when it comes to the general election. Thinking back on the last almost-four years, I'm actually astounded there is anyone not doing EVERYTHING THEY CAN to rinse all remnants of our "leader" from the collective palate. AND if last time taught us anything, it taught us to take the process seriously and vote!
 
illmatic99 said:
notice how he decided to still not tell anyone how HIS life is better now than it was 4 yrs ago.

No leg to stand on. No substance.

he's a fraud and we all know it.
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He will probably cite things that had nothing to do with who is or isn't President.
 
julius said:
I don't give a shit about likes. I just don't like sanctimonious posts.

Someone else explain what sanctimonious means to @THE HCP
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Yeah, you do. You had cited in here that "it's no wonder you don't have hardly any likes in here, ABM." Or something to that effect.

Doesn't really matter to me, though. Some things make me chuckle.

If you don't care for my sanctimonious posts, always feel free to click the ignore thingy.
 
ABM said:
Yeah, you do. You had cited in here that "it's no wonder you don't have hardly any likes in here, ABM." Or something to that effect.

Doesn't really matter to me, though. Some things make me chuckle.

If you don't care for my sanctimonious posts, always feel free to click the ignore thingy.
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That doesn't mean I seek them.
 
HailBlazers said:
@Road Ratt's viewpoint was called useless and juvenile and HE'S the problem? IMO the problem is people being unable to have respectful dialogue and acting as if they have two mouths and one ear.
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A little logic should show both parties supporters, their own parties hypocrisy. Yet logic never works.

If a person can end up homeless and living out on the streets, in one of the richest nations in history... your party literally doesn't care about it's own citizens.

Edit: Hell, we care about animals more than we care about the homeless in America. I see commercials wanting your money monthly to help with animal cruelty, yet not one commercial for the homeless American citizens living on our cities streets.
 
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ABM said:
OK, well interested enough to make comparisons on the matter. Keep fighting the good fight.
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Usually it's an indication that people may agree with what you are saying/presenting.

Pointing it out doesn't mean someone seeks them or cares about it. I was stating that it says a lot when someone rarely gets a lot of likes and in your case plays the victim.

But it's like talking to a brick wall.
 
julius said:
Usually it's an indication that people may agree with what you are saying/presenting.

Pointing it out doesn't mean someone seeks them or cares about it. I was stating that it says a lot when someone rarely gets a lot of likes and in your case plays the victim.

But it's like talking to a brick wall.
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Yeah, and I could just as well be on a predominantly conservative site with much different results - in discussions, likes, or whatever.

This is a Blazers board, though, so I have a certain allegiance to it. ;)
 
Road Ratt said:
Edit: Hell, we care about animals more than we care about the homeless in America. I see commercials wanting your money monthly to help with animal cruelty, yet not one commercial for the homeless American citizens living on our cities streets.
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I am going to argue that this is an oversimplification of a complicated issue, but it surely points to a problem with resource allocation in this country.

The fact of the matter tho is that with any large group of people - there will be disagreements about shared resource allocation - and unfortunately, too many people in this country believe that a giant military or propping businesses with little assurances for the benefit of society at large is more important than other things.

I think that the crux of the issue is not the parties themselves - it is the concentration of power and the reluctance of people to prioritize artificial sense of security via military or police or the illusion that big-business always knows best over other things.
 
julius said:
I'd rather him forget the name of Milquetoast Mitt than forget to tell people in February that Covid19 was a serious virus and we should be prepared for it.

I'd rather him forget the name of Milquetoast Mitt than disband the pandemic response team.

I'd rather him forget the name of Milquetoast Mitt than grabbing women by the pussy.
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10/14: Microsoft News:
Trump's administration have urged Americans to practice social distancing and wear masks to slow the spread of the virus, but Trump himself has been reluctant to wear a mask in public. The President said that he didn't believe making masks mandatory across the country was necessary, but said in July that he is "all for masks" and that he "thinks masks are good." Trump has repeatedly downplayed the need for increased testing, and told supporters at a June rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, that Covid-19 testing was "a double-edged sword." "When you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people," he said during the rally. "You're going to find more cases. So I said to my people, 'Slow the testing down, please.' "

WTF?? Slow Down. You'll find more cases.???!!!
 
SSDD

You know, it seems to me that if a person consistently gets his brains beat out on a daily basis and replying with nothing but false bravado, surely after awhile a light would go off in his head that says, "Hey, maybe it's me".
 
HailBlazers said:
@Road Ratt's viewpoint was called useless and juvenile and HE'S the problem? IMO the problem is people being unable to have respectful dialogue and acting as if they have two mouths and one ear.
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Attacking an individual is a no-no, but it's "open season" on individual opinions. The post was attacked, not the poster.

"Free speech" is not a one way street. Expressing one's opinion does not exempt that opinion from being ridiculed by others.
 
ABM said:
Yeah, and I could just as well be on a predominantly conservative site with much different results - in discussions, likes, or whatever.

This is a Blazers board, though, so I have a certain allegiance to it. ;)
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Which is why tortured blazer fan has so few likes, right?
 
Road Ratt said:
A little logic should show both parties supporters, their own parties hypocrisy. Yet logic never works.

If a person can end up homeless and living out on the streets, in one of the richest nations in history... your party literally doesn't care about it's own citizens.

Edit: Hell, we care about animals more than we care about the homeless in America. I see commercials wanting your money monthly to help with animal cruelty, yet not one commercial for the homeless American citizens living on our cities streets.
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I want to say something here: in retrospect, maybe my reply to you was a little too aggressive. Obviously you were offended. If I crossed any generic line of political debate-decorum I can't really see, I apologize.

but, if it wasn't clear, I'll reiterate I think there are obvious and actual fundamental differences in principles, morality, & reason between the two parties, and not seeing those differences to the point of condemning both parties in the same manner ignores reality. The Democrats disappoint me repeatedly, and irritate me often. I wish there was a better choice in a better system in a better nation all the time. But that's a fictional world. Until we make fiction into reality we're left with the choices we actually have, and for me, there's no fucking way at all those two choices are of the same quality
 
Bill Clinton was fine with Ronald Reagan's tax cuts for the wealthy. Barack Obama was just fine with them too, as well as G.W. Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy. If Joe Biden is fine with them too, as well as Donald Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy. I believe that it is time to stop, just blaming republicans for these tax cuts for the wealthy.

Edit: Ronald Reagan brought America back these corrupt corporate stock buybacks. Every president beyond him has been fine with the corruption that Reagan started.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/2/17639762/stock-buybacks-tax-cuts-trump-republicans
 
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julius said:
Maybe it's not because you're conservative
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Well, yeah, there's always that. Doesn't really matter, though. I really don't keep up with tortured's posts
 
Road Ratt said:
Bill Clinton was fine with Ronald Reagan's tax cuts for the wealthy.
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Nope. The max tax rate was brought to 28% under Reagan in 1987, it was brought up to 39.6% in 1993 under Clinton.

Barack Obama was just fine with them too, as well as G.W. Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy.
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Nope. Max tax rate was lowered to 35% by Bush in 2003, was brought back to 39.6% by Obama in 2013.

If Biden is fine with them too, as well as Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy. I believe that it is time to stop, just blaming republicans for these tax cuts for the wealthy.
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"As President, Biden will require corporations and the wealthiest Americans to finally pay their fair share. He won’t ask a single person making under $400,000 per year to pay a penny more in taxes, and will in fact enact more than one-dozen middle class tax cuts that will finally give working families the financial support they deserve. But struggling families need support immediately, which is why Biden is demanding that Trump get off the golf course and provide emergency tax relief to middle class families as part of a new COVID-19 response package."

https://joebiden.com/two-tax-policies/

Your data just isn't right.
 
Humans are complex (well, most of us anyway). Adopting a stray human isn't something that most people are willing to consider. A kitten or a puppy is a much smaller commitment.

Thus TV ads with cute stray animals work. TV ads with stray humans mostly don't (Sally Struthers notwithstanding).

Failure to solve every single problem, or any one particular problem, is not a definitive indication of corruption and/or indifference on the part of government.

It's the nature of the beast. Humans are complex, and so are their problems.

That doesn't mean government shouldn't try, of course. And the current administration isn't even trying on most issues.

barfo
 
yankeesince59 said:
Attacking an individual is a no-no, but it's "open season" on individual opinions. The post was attacked, not the poster.

"Free speech" is not a one way street. Expressing one's opinion does not exempt that opinion from being ridiculed by others.
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Truly nothing better than winning the internet.
 
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