Tyreke Evans or Wesley Mathews?...

[MickZagger]

The question was Evans or Matthews.

Derp.

You seem to use the phrase 'derp' a lot. Is that your new go to?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Evans is playing below his potential/ceiling while Matthews is at his. 3 years from now, with new coaches on a new team for Evans, it won't be close.

Coaches may change and offense strategies may change, but I wonder how much a player's attitude changes. Some guys just play hard 95% of the time. Others........closer to 50%.

Wes is a leader. Tyreke does not appear to have any such skills. But I could be wrong.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

A player's attitude can change drastically, just look at Batum.

 

[OSUbeavs]

evans sucks

 

[BigGameDamian]

I bet if you put Evens on a good team he would show new light much like JJ did.

 

[Boob-No-More]

This season:

Thanks for posting these additional stats. Although I'm sure it wasn't your intention, the majority of the stats you posed illustrate EXACTLY why I prefer Wesley Matthews over Tyreke Evans. In a nutshell, Matthews is a team player at both ends of the court. Evans is an inefficient scorer who hurts his team at both ends of the court. A lot of there differences can be attributed to the roles they play, and their individual skill sets. I'll address a few of those below...

FG%
WM: .434
TE: .455

Based on the other advanced stats you posted, I'm sure you know that there is more to shooting the basketball than simple FG%. Why didn't you also include 3FG%, FT%, TS% and eFG%? Because those percentages favor Matthews and perfectly illustrate why he's a better shooter and a better fit on this team. Since you are cherry picking the 21 games Evans has played this season, over his lower career averages, I'll include both this season and career averages (in parentheses).

3FG%:
Wesley Matthews: .407 (.395)
Tyreke Evans: .290 (.258)

FT%:
Wesley Matthews: .760 (.833)
Tyreke Evans: .783 (.764)

TS%:
Wesley Matthews: .566 (.570)
Tyreke Evans: .532 (.511)

eFG%:
Wesley Matthews: .530 (.522)
Tyreke Evans: .474 (.459)

Matthews wins by a landslide in eFG% due to his much higher 3FG% - and that's EXACTLY what this team needs from him. Because Wes is a very good 3-point shooter, he spreads the defense and creates open lanes for his teammates to drive.

Evans is the exact opposite. When he's in the game, the opposing defense can pack the paint. Not only is Evans a poor 3-point shooter, he's also a player who needs to dominate the ball to be his most effective. Unfortunately, when he dominates the ball, he hurts his team (as illustrated in my previous post).

You have to ask yourself, who would you rather have playing with Damian Lillard, a complimentary player who is an excellent 3-point shooter and doesn't need to dominate the ball to be effective, or a poor 3-point shooter who needs the ball in his hands to contribute? I'd much rather put the ball in Lillard's hands and use Matthews superior 3-point shooting to spread the floor.

PER
WM: 15.2
TE 17.8

TRB%
WM: 7.9
TE: 15.3

AST%
WM: 12.0
TE: 17.8

BLK%
WM: 0.7
TE: 1.8

% of shots assisted
WM: 62%
TE: 39%

DrawFoul%
WM: 9.6
TE: 11.9

Passing Rating
WM: 2.9
TE: 5.2

Evans is a 1-on-1 player who needs to dominate the ball to be effective. Of course he's going to have better individual stats than a complimentary role player like Matthews. Evans may have better individual stats, but he gets those stats to the detriment of his team. Matthews is the superior team player, on both offense and defense. Evans was at his best his rookie year, when he played on a truly horrible team and put up big numbers by totally dominating the ball. Put him on a team with better and better teammates and he becomes less and less effective.

Net 48-Minute Production (factors in opponent's PER)
WM: -2.5
TE: +3.4

Again, an individual stat. Go back and look at my first post and compare how Evans' and Matthews' TEAMS do when they are on the court. Here's a brief recap:

Tyreke Evans (Net On Court/Off Court):
2009-10: -5.3
2010-11: +1.7
2011-12: -2.6
2012-13: -2.5

Wesley Matthews (Net On Court/Off Court):
2009-10: -0.9
2010-11: +3.9
2011-12: +6.7
2012-13: +8.0

Evans, due to his inefficient scoring (low eFG%) and ball dominance hurts his team. Matthews, due to his much higher eFG%, ability to spread the floor and better individual and team defense, helps his team. Basketball is still a team sport. In a game of 1-on-1, I'd take Evans in a heartbeat. In a game of 5-on-5, I'd take Matthews every time, without hesitation.

And, just one final parting shot to show how Evans HURTS his team's performance:

Evans has played in 21 games this season. In those 21 games, the Kings are 5-16 (.238). In the games he hasn't played, the Kings are 8-8 (.500). So, without Evans, the Kings are a .500 team and in the hunt for the 8th seed. Add Evans and they are the worst team in the Western Conference (.238, NOH is currently in last place at .312). This, is why I don't want any part of Tyreke Evans, he makes his team worse, substantially worse.

And how exactly do you know he'd bring negativity, selfishness and sense of entitlement? Do you know him? Do you know the inner workings of the Kings locker room? That team has been a mess and Evans has never come across as a bad guy. Is there a reason you went on a tirade against him?

How do I know? The constant stream of articles about how Evans is unhappy and/or disgruntled with his role. I'll leave the googling for you, but there has been a constant stream of trade rumors swirling around Evans because he's unhappy that he no longer gets to totally dominate the ball like he did his rookie year. He had numerous complaints about Paul Westphal and Evans and his agent have been whining about his role under Keith Smart for the past year. Again Evans is all about his own numbers, not about his team's success. He'd rather put up big numbers on a crap team than sacrifice his own stats for the benefit of the team - the EXACT opposite of Wesley Mattews. I've never been a fan of selfish players, and Evans is exactly that kind of player. I don't want him anywhere near my team. He would be a HORRIBLE match (piss poor 3-point shooting, ball dominating) with Lillard and his ego is too big for him to ever peacefully accept a role as a bench player.

BNM

 

[Pinwheel1]

A player's attitude can change drastically, just look at Batum.

Not seeing the comparison between Batum and Evans at all. Batum always tried on defense. He may have been frustrated by the way they used him on offense, but he still went out and played hard.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Not seeing the comparison between Batum and Evans at all. Batum always tried on defense. He may have been frustrated by the way they used him on offense, but he still went out and played hard.

Agreed, Batum was previously UNDERUTILIZED to the detriment of his team. Evans was previously OVERUTILIZED (well, other than his rookie year when the rest of his team basically sucked) to the detriment of his team. Batum needed to be more assertive, Evans needs to be less assertive.

Evans reminds me of Stephon Marbury - a guy who put up great individual stats, yet every time he was traded, his new team got worse and his old team got better. Coincidence? I think not!

BNM

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I was just posting the stats that Evans is better at because you only posted the ones that Matthews has the edge in.

 

[HailBlazers]

Evans would be a dream 6th man imo, and with the proper environment he's much more likely to grow.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Evans would be a dream 6th man imo, and with the proper environment he's much more likely to grow.

Yeah, he's only 23. A good coach could do wonders for him.

 

[magnifier661]

Three words.


Harrison fucking Barnes!

 

[BigGameDamian]

You guys think this question will come back this season?

 

[blazedanugz]

wesley no doubt

 

[PDXFonz]

Wes any day of the week.

 

[magnifier661]

Wessy Wess is better than the rest!

 

[Sinobas]

Huh? What's up with the Tyreke love? Last year he only shot 22% from 3pt range, and 46% from 2. Less than Matthews on both fronts. How is he "much better" on offense?

 

[BlazerWookee]

You guys think this question will come back this season?

No.