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Mr. Headcase winning games when they matter.
 
PapaG said:
But you said you were taking the word of a few posters in this thread about Evans being a head case. I think it's obvious that both Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant have been in more "head case" public situations than Tyreke Evans, isn't it? They were much more talented than Evans, and two of the greatest players in NBA history, so does that excuse them from being head cases?

By your criteria, nobody who has won a title can be considered a head case. Read your own definition of it. It makes no sense to me. I'm not trolling you, I'm questioning you. If you can't handle it, that's not my fault.
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Your assessment of Jordan is weak, to say the least. OH, he has gambling problems? God damn, strap on the white vest to a guy who now entirely owns his own NBA team.

Kobe....rape allegations that never happened. Infidelity maybe...but who are you to judge? Just some bitch trying to get money out of him. And I'm not defending Kobe, I hate the guy.

And his feud with Shaq? OK, that's the extent of Kobe's drama in his career. A false accusation that got a lot of attention and a war of words with another player.
 
HCP said:
You asked for 1 guy who was a nutcase and won a ring..... I gave you 3 son.
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JR Rider didn't win shit. But OK TWO. YOU GUYS PROVED TO ME THERE'S TWO!!

Out of the last what, 15 years? And look, they both had at least one mega-superstar as a teammate to keep things under control.

Just sayin. We don't have a mega-superstar.
 
kobe bryant has been suspended multiple games for elbowing people in the face
 
This thread has kinda' gone in a different direction from which I intended.
 
This team is in desperate need of an athletically-skilled headcase and we could flat-out steal him.
 
C_note said:
Your assessment of Jordan is weak, to say the least. OH, he has gambling problems? God damn, strap on the white vest to a guy who now entirely owns his own NBA team.

Kobe....rape allegations that never happened. Infidelity maybe...but who are you to judge? Just some bitch trying to get money out of him. And I'm not defending Kobe, I hate the guy.

And his feud with Shaq? OK, that's the extent of Kobe's drama in his career. A false accusation that got a lot of attention and a war of words with another player.
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The answer to the Jeopardy question "What naive nonsense could one post on a sports message forum to instantly destroy one's credibility?".
 
Billy Ray Bates won THREE Philippine Basketball Association championships and one Bayside State Prison in Leesburg, N.J basketball championship.
 
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Vernon Maxwell played a key role on the 93-94 Rockets. He went 14/4/4 in the playoffs for them that year.

He was known as "Mad Max" because he was a head case. He was jailed in 2009 because he kept messing up his probation.
 
PapaG said:
Vernon Maxwell played a key role on the 93-94 Rockets. He went 14/4/4 in the playoffs for them that year.

He was known as "Mad Max" because he was a head case. He was jailed in 2009 because he kept messing up his probation.
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You could probably keep coming up with more and more names if you tried.... the point is, there are a TON of headcases in the league (and the world for that matter).
 
If we can get him on the cheap it's an interesting option. A lot will depend on the next coach -- he's got to have somebody get his ego in check.

The #11 pick and?
 
Tyreke Evans stats have gone downhill since he entered the league because they had him playing PG and not caring what he did as long as he averaged that historic 20/5/5. There were a ton of questions about just what position he should actually play in the NBA and it looks like he is falling into the SG/SF role. He isn't an overally gifted athlete, plays below the rim instead of above it, not a good 3 point shooter and tends to dominate the ball. He is his best when he can slash to the rim at will and draw foul calls. He is a player who is going to demand big money but never be worth it because of his lack of consistency and his horrible defense/shot selection.
 
Rhal said:
Tyreke Evans stats have gone downhill since he entered the league because they had him playing PG and not caring what he did as long as he averaged that historic 20/5/5. There were a ton of questions about just what position he should actually play in the NBA and it looks like he is falling into the SG/SF role. He isn't an overally gifted athlete, plays below the rim instead of above it, not a good 3 point shooter and tends to dominate the ball. He is his best when he can slash to the rim at will and draw foul calls. He is a player who is going to demand big money but never be worth it because of his lack of consistency and his horrible defense/shot selection.
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That's putting it kindly -- he's a career 25% shooter from three.
 
Weren't people comparing him to Roy in his rookie season? What changed?
 
C_note said:
Name ONE, JUST ONE, questionable-character guy that won a championship.

Both Rodman and Sheed intentionally acted the way they did. And both were big men.

Head case guards are completely worthless.
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I would say sheed definitely counts. He was a head case for sure. Stupid and does stupid stuff detrimental to his career. Not putting in work to be the best. Sounds a lot like sheed.
 
I would have no problem adding Evans if it cost us something like Matthews, but I wouldn't trade a pick for him
 
Mediocre Man said:
I would have no problem adding Evans if it cost us something like Matthews, but I wouldn't trade a pick for him
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Matthews alone wouldn't get it done, but maybe they can buy a pick in the late teens or early twenties and package that with Wesley and include it in a trade?
 
Nikolokolus said:
Matthews alone wouldn't get it done, but maybe they can buy a pick in the late teens or early twenties and package that with Wesley and include it in a trade?
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That would work for me as well. I realize Matthews alone wouldn't get it done, but in my feeble mind, that is what I would be comfortable giving up for a player with no real position
 
Adding Evans would be okay if we had a stabilizing vet, but LMA isn't that guy and I don't see someone like Joel keeping an ego in check.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I would have no problem adding Evans if it cost us something like Matthews, but I wouldn't trade a pick for him
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I most definitely would. Evans is exactly the kind of SG slasher, scorer we need to fill the absence of B-Roy.
 
HailBlazers said:
I most definitely would. Evans is exactly the kind of SG slasher, scorer we need to fill the absence of B-Roy.
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Not really ... I mean he'd certainly fill a void in the scorer/slasher department, but his talent and feel for the game is nowhere near what Roy was able to do when healthy, but this is not an ideal pairing between player and team.
 
I'd definitely trade the #11 pick for him, but the #6 pick straight up...maybe. That's about even. Factor in the risk of drafting a mistake, and factor in waiting 2-3 years for the pick to develop...maybe.
 
Here is a hypothetical.

Assuming One of Lamb or Beal was on the board when we picked, and assuming Sullinger, Marshall or Rivers were on the board when we selected with our other pick, would any of you be upset if we traded our two picks for Tyreke Evans and Kyle Lowry?
 
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