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Fairly-Hard said:
How many are defecting? Serious question. How many soldiers could be swayed to simply leave Russia?
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Not too many I don't think, but a lot are just abandoning their weapons and vehicles and just trying to get back somehow to Russia or Crimea.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Once I realized these guys are from the DNR (Donetsk People's Republic), I'm not skeptical at all, This is part of the occupied territories, it is one of the most corrupt, brutal, mismanaged places in the world.
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good insight
 
I already had this argument with someone on another site. In the beginning there was lots of stories about the heroism of the people of Ukraine. When the Russians didn't run right over them there was a sudden influx of "pity the poor Russian soldiers!" stories.

It shouldn't take a cynic like me to smell Russian trolls at work!
 
oldmangrouch said:
I already had this argument with someone on another site. In the beginning there was lots of stories about the heroism of the people of Ukraine. When the Russians didn't run right over them there was a sudden influx of "pity the poor Russian soldiers!" stories.

It shouldn't take a cynic like me to smell Russian trolls at work!
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I truly feel sorry for some of the Russian soldiers. I think they've been misled and forced into a horrible situation. But that doesn't mean I believe the world should ease up for one second the sanctions that for right now are hurting the average Russian citizen than the people in charge.

If there is regime change in Russia we should try to help them build a democracy that serves all of the people better vs treating them as an international pariah for years to come.
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
I truly feel sorry for some of the Russian soldiers. I think they've been misled and forced into a horrible situation. But that doesn't mean I believe the world should ease up for one second the sanctions that for right now are hurting the average Russian citizen than the people in charge.

If there is regime change in Russia we should try to help them build a democracy that serves all of the people better vs treating them as an international puria for years to come.
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It's pariah. You were probably thinking puria, like SlyPokerCat.
 
Credit Suisse caught trying to shred evidence of loans to Russian oligarchs backed by superyachts and private jets

Credit Suisse once again seems to be doing its level best to cement its reputation as Europe’s most scandal-plagued bank.

According to reports in the Financial Times, the Swiss credit institute has quietly been offloading risks from its exposure to U.S.-sanctioned Russian oligarchs, after this group was responsible in 2017 and 2018 for a third of the defaults on yacht and private jet loans the bank extended.

Hedge funds and other investors that bought securitized portfolios of these deals, backed by the ultra-luxury status items, were asked in a letter this week to “destroy and permanently erase” any evidence of the transaction, the paper reported.

“I don’t think we’ve ever had a request like this,” it quoted one investor, who received the letter.

Credit Suisse declined to comment specifically on the report, but more broadly on the issue of Russia said in a statement sent to Fortune that it “serves its clients while complying with all applicable laws and regulations, including any sanctions from relevant authorities.”

The $2 billion deal was a “synthetic securitization” to free up regulatory capital, undertaken by the bank as part of CEO Thomas Gottstein’s plan to adopt a more responsible approach to managing financial risk following its $5.5 billion loss from Archegos.

It is unclear exactly when the security was issued, but deals this complex in nature typically take time to pull together, and at any rate was arranged prior to the beginning of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine last week.

There is also no information on the exact proportion of loans in the security that are linked to Russian oligarchs who enriched themselves under Vladimir Putin’s regime.

Nevertheless, the Russian president’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine on Thursday and the subsequent panoply of sanctions imposed against key profiteers of his regime couldn’t have come at a worse time for the bank.

https://fortune.com/2022/03/02/cred...o-russian-oligarchs-superyachts-private-jets/
 
BigGameDamian said:
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These assassins were Chechens and Ukraine has told the Washington Post that the Russian FSB (successor to KGB) tipped them off because they are not in favor of what Putler is doing. btw, even though they took these guys by surprise, there were no survivors, no wounded. Also some 70 Russians who tried to infiltrate Kyiv in plain clothes? Also every one of them killed, again no wounded or prisoners. And now Ukraine has announced that if you are a Russian artillery operator, shelling their cities, you will also not be taken prisoner. I understand their position.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I truly feel sorry for some of the Russian soldiers. I think they've been misled and forced into a horrible situation. But that doesn't mean I believe the world should ease up for one second the sanctions that for right now are hurting the average Russian citizen than the people in charge.

If there is regime change in Russia we should try to help them build a democracy that serves all of the people better vs treating them as an international pariah for years to come.
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Yeh, we probably should have done more when soviet union broke up.
 
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