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Chris Craig said:
He came out saying people here want to send troops to Ukraine and that Ukraine isn't worth saving or fighting for unless you are Ukrainian and he has posted these over and over, and it appears aimed to rile other posters and not to further discussion.
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i don't get the same assessments from his posts. Care to quote these posts so we can dissect them specifically and not your assessment of them based on your opinion?
 
calvin natt said:
When your natural instinct is to somehow downplay Russias horrific crimes against innocent people, or justify it, or insinuate everyone is just being overly scared, or anything remotely close to it, there is something wrong.
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That's the right wing propaganda line. They are slowly turning support for Ukraine into a left wing partisan narrative issue. In seeing it all over Facebook with lines like, "do the people who stand with Ukraine also stand for the national anthem and medical freedoms?"
 
calvin natt said:
When your natural instinct is to somehow downplay Russias horrific crimes against innocent people, or justify it, or insinuate everyone is just being overly scared, or anything remotely close to it, there is something wrong.
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when your natural instinct is to wish people dead for not sharing the same view/opinion, thats a sign that person is pretty fucked up.

Just sayin….mirrors are everwhere!!!
 
Chris Craig said:
An opposing view is one thing. That's fine. Cool.

But, to repeat the same thing over and over and over is trolling.
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And picking out one particular poster to continue to respond to just to get a rise is trolling.
Don't feed the trolls.
 
Orion Bailey said:
when your natural instinct is to wish people dead for not sharing the same view/opinion, thats a sign that person is pretty fucked up.

Just sayin….mirrors are everwhere!!!
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Did someone wish someone was dead? Other than Putin?
 
jonnyboy said:
Good thing I did none of those things. Nothing I said was false, you just don’t like to make your brain work any harder than it has to to actually analyze facts that are out in the open. If anyone dares suggest there’s more than a black and white explanation you shit yourself and scream treason. You are the exact demographic the media targets: Scared ass boomers who can’t turn off the tv for long enough to stop hyperventilating. Everything is the end times and you’ve actually been convinced war is the way out of it. Congratulations, ur smart.
And in regards to being a fucked up person, we’ve all seen your posts here. Disagreement generally equates to wishing death on said group with you it seems. I try to not go quite so hard in the paint.
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What are you even talking about. Take a deep breath. I want war? Says who? Hyperventilating? Project much?
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Did someone wish someone was dead? Other than Putin?
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oh yeah. Many times. Anti vaxxers should just die. Anti maskers. What else… im sure there was more than that, but id have to go back and read some long ass threads and im not willing to do that.
 
calvin natt said:
What are you even talking about. Take a deep breath. I want war? Says who? Hyperventilating? Project much?
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now thats some funny shit. You telling someone else to calm down.
I guess its better than reading how you think other people should just die….
 
Orion Bailey said:
oh yeah. Many times. Anti vaxxers should just die. Anti maskers. What else… im sure there was more than that, but id have to go back and read some long ass threads and im not willing to do that.
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Oh you're talking about the virus thread? Yeah i gave that one up.
I certainly wish no ill well toward anyone here.
I just see things much much differently than another poster here. Then he tried to call me out and i put him on check. Not once but multiple times.
Now i simply won't respond to him and he doesn't like that.

My position on Ukraine will not change and he has continuously added or changed my words to things that were never said or intended.
That in my opinion is trolling.
 
calvin natt said:
So angry
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who doesnt wish death on anyone for having a different opinion.
Whos the angry one?
You can deflect all you want. But the truth is known. You made it known.
Deflection is a fun primitive game though. Enjoy it!
 
I mean, I’ve only wanted a few people dead. But they would make the world safer and better so meh who cares. But also clumped into those very few are the ones I haven’t shown sympathy for, the ones who fucked around with Covid and died after spewing anti mask or anti vax shit and then Oopsies dead. I didn’t *want* them to die but they died and don’t care.
 
Orion Bailey said:
i don't get the same assessments from his posts. Care to quote these posts so we can dissect them specifically and not your assessment of them based on your opinion?
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I don't have the time. Go back and read again. Alot of his posts in this thread are focused on the things I listed.

I am not the only one getting the same assessment from his posts. It's coming across the same to several others.
 
Orion Bailey said:
more deflection because you simply cant own up to your previous comments. Just because you deflect doesn't make you right. Just makes your post look foolish. Everyone in this forum knows you wish death on people. I don't need to scream it to make it true. It is a fact. But you are not honest enough to admit it apparently as evidenced by your deflection.

Cowardice…
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I did two posts above but you’re too busy screaming and crying to notice I guess
 
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Maybe we could just have this thread go back to the thing it was created for?
Information regarding the war in Ukraine.
I am allowed to call it a war here right?
Did i really need green font for that last line?
 
calvin natt said:
I mean, I’ve only wanted a few people dead. But they would make the world safer and better so meh who cares. But also clumped into those very few are the ones I haven’t shown sympathy for, the ones who fucked around with Covid and died after spewing anti mask or anti vax shit and then Oopsies dead. I didn’t *want* them to die but they died and don’t care.
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I believe you did express that anti vaxxers should die or something to that effect in the Covid thread sometime ago. Not sure if you were being serious or just angry about people not taking Covid seriously.

The only one I have seen wished dead in the near past is Putin.
 
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Orion Bailey said:
the problem is the passive agressive posts of some.
No no one said “Johnny is a traitor”

instead they made posts like people who think like so and so are fucked up.
Yes there was absolutely a bad vibe tossed at johnny. Just not directly. Directly is against the rules so skate around it, but lets not kid ourselves.

when someone says anyone who thinks blah blah blah is usually just a way of calling out another poster.
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No. You don't get to call out a group of people because they are all agreeing on a subject.
Sorry. That doesn't fly.
There are essentially 3 posters with one view.
There are many many posters with a different view. If your view is very very unpopular it will be called out.
Those posters don't get to call people out and then cry when they get teamed up on.
This is the internet.
Deal with it.

I apologize if that seems harsh but it's plain and simple fact of life on the internet.
 
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Fairly-Hard said:
No. You don't get to call out a group of people because they are all agreeing on a subject.
Sorry. That doesn't fly.
There are essentially 3 posters with one view.
There are many many posters with a different view. If your view is very very unpopular it will be called out.
Those posters don't get to call people out and then cry when they get teamed up on.
This is the internet.
Deal with it.

I apologize if that seems harsh but it's plain and simple fact of life on the internet.
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sure. If we want to live as if the internet are realistic rules. the reality is we are so few in numbers that neither side should act as though they are right with thier opinions.

8 of 10 people agreeing out of a country of 350 million is nothing id ever hang my hat on.
The reality is this place is an echo chamber aNd few look at the bigger picture. the national numbers are far closer than if a poll were taken in S2, on almost any political topic. But because of the echo chamber, many live in their own world and push with insults and degradation, their opinion as if the other side is crazy, selfish, inhumane, etc.
And no need to apologize to me, you haven't insulted me you are just making your point. All good. :)
But i think we may need to agree to disagree.
Ive seen some pretty hateful things said from the left side just as i have the right.
 
A Russian warship that attacked Snake Island, where Ukrainian soldiers cursed out invaders, has reportedly been destroyed

  • A Russian warship that attacked Snake Island last month was reportedly destroyed.
  • Ukrainian military sources told The Times on Tuesday that the Vasily Bykov had been destroyed.
  • Sources said it had been involved in the attack, in which troops told a ship to "go fuck yourself."
A Russian warship that attacked Ukraine's Snake Island last month has been destroyed, military sources told The Times on Tuesday.

The Times reported that a large patrol corvette named the Vasily Bykov appeared to have been hit by rockets early Monday morning local time.

"Ship was destroyed, it is confirmed," a Ukrainian military source told The Times.

The Times described a military-intelligence group as saying the Vasily Bykov was one of two ships that attacked Snake Island last month, in an incident in which Ukrainian soldiers told a Russian ship to "go fuck yourself."

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-warship-snake-island-attack-destroyed-report-says-2022-3
 
Chris Craig said:
That's why I removed insults used against you? Because I'm unfair? I moderate fairly to all here. No, I don't agree with all your opinions and that's ok. I can both moderate and express my opinions here.

I give no one a pass, if I see insults I remove them.
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