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Roman Abramovich ‘poisoned during Kyiv meeting with peace negotiators’

The Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich was poisoned along with Ukrainian negotiators, it has been claimed.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the Vladimir Putin ally and Chelsea FC owner was hit by symptoms after a suspected poisoning at a meeting in Kyiv earlier this month.

Abramovich, and two senior Ukrainian officials, are said to have developed peeling skin on their faces and hands, red eyes, and constant and painful tearing, the paper reported.

Quoting ‘people familiar with the matter’, it added that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who has met with Abramovich, was not been affected.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/28/russ...ed-along-with-ukrainian-negotiators-16359662/

Roman Abramovich CONFIRMS he and two Ukrainian negotiators were 'blinded for several hours and had skin peel off their faces and hands' in suspected poisoning attack after peace talks in Kyiv
  • Roman Abramovich suffered a suspected poisoning on March 3 after attending peace talks between Ukraine and Russia in Kyiv
  • Abramovich, another Russian entrepreneur and Ukrainian MP Rustem Umerov all developed symptoms consistent with poisoning by chemical weapons
  • They all developed symptoms including red eyes and peeling of skin on faces
  • Representatives for Abramovich said he had suffered the reported symptoms but refused to give more details
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cted-POISONING-Ukraine-peace-negotiators.html
 
Roman Abramovich CONFIRMS he and two Ukrainian negotiators were 'blinded for several hours and had skin peel off their faces and hands' in suspected poisoning attack after peace talks in Kyiv
  • Roman Abramovich suffered a suspected poisoning on March 3 after attending peace talks between Ukraine and Russia in Kyiv
  • Abramovich, another Russian entrepreneur and Ukrainian MP Rustem Umerov all developed symptoms consistent with poisoning by chemical weapons
  • They all developed symptoms including red eyes and peeling of skin on faces
  • Representatives for Abramovich said he had suffered the reported symptoms but refused to give more details
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cted-POISONING-Ukraine-peace-negotiators.html

It's an eminence front.
 
Meh. I don’t see why it’s so terrible. It’s not controversial. It’s not anything that any sane person disagrees with. Fuck Putin
But media ignoring entire speech to focus on one sentence.
 
US Oil Companies Set to Reap Up to $126 Billion in Extra Profits Amid War on Ukraine

"It's high time for Congress to pass a windfall profits tax and prevent the fossil fuel industry from harnessing a war to make billions," said one campaigner.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...ap-126-billion-extra-profits-amid-war-ukraine

What most people don't seem to understand is: We simply changed Russian oil oligarchs for American oil oligarchs. Personally, I feel that this is exactly what this war is all about. American oligarchs are now benefiting from the transfer of oil/gas in Europe from Russia to American oil/gas imports. It is literally an American robbery in progress... disguised as a war.
 
US Oil Companies Set to Reap Up to $126 Billion in Extra Profits Amid War on Ukraine

"It's high time for Congress to pass a windfall profits tax and prevent the fossil fuel industry from harnessing a war to make billions," said one campaigner.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...ap-126-billion-extra-profits-amid-war-ukraine

What most people don't seem to understand is: We simply changed Russian oil oligarchs for American oil oligarchs. Personally, I feel that this is exactly what this war is all about. American oligarchs are now benefiting from the transfer of oil/gas in Europe from Russia to American oil/gas imports. It is literally an American robbery in progress... disguised as a war.

Screw that.... people should be going to jail. There should be massive fines. That was purely war profiteering and nothing else.
 
US Oil Companies Set to Reap Up to $126 Billion in Extra Profits Amid War on Ukraine

"It's high time for Congress to pass a windfall profits tax and prevent the fossil fuel industry from harnessing a war to make billions," said one campaigner.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...ap-126-billion-extra-profits-amid-war-ukraine

What most people don't seem to understand is: We simply changed Russian oil oligarchs for American oil oligarchs. Personally, I feel that this is exactly what this war is all about. American oligarchs are now benefiting from the transfer of oil/gas in Europe from Russia to American oil/gas imports. It is literally an American robbery in progress... disguised as a war.
Thats bullshit...Putin has been slaughtering his neighbors and throwing his dictatorial weight around. I commend Europe if they import more gas & oil. Russia is the fucking thief here, but yet you blame America. Count your blessings man!
 
Screw that.... people should be going to jail. There should be massive fines. That was purely war profiteering and nothing else.

I'm not sure it's war profiteering. We aren't at war and they aren't selling to parties that are at war. They are simply using world events as an excuse to raise prices, same as they always do.

barfo
 
Thats bullshit...Putin has been slaughtering his neighbors and throwing his dictatorial weight around. I commend Europe if they import more gas & oil. Russia is the fucking thief here, but yet you blame America. Count your blessings man!

Blessing that both parties are this insanely corrupt?!? No, thanks. I'll count my blessings that, with this level of corruption in both parties here in America, it is a miracle that any of us are still alive though.
 
Blessing that both parties are this insanely corrupt?!? No, thanks. I'll count my blessings that, with this level of corruption in both parties here in America, it is a miracle that any of us are still alive though.
Yet you still don't condemn Putin for being a murdering dictator?
 
Yet you still don't condemn Putin for being a murdering dictator?

I have never said that I side with Putin. If people want to take that as taking his side, I can't stop them.

I see that Putin started a war based on lies, very much the same as G.W. Bush did in Iraq. I see that Putin is committing war crimes in Ukraine, same as America did in Iraq and Afghanistan. So, while I do see the overall differences in the two situations, I don't see the difference in these two situations, in the respect that I have stated.
 
Gas prices on the west coast are ALWAYS the highest. Always have been. I’ll say it again, I don’t know why people complain about the price of gas…..what’s the alternative….you gonna walk? Nope you’re going to pay for it and move on. And before one of you fires off a post about buying an EV, save that shit. If you think gas is expensive, wait til you try to purchase one of those. And before the same people fire a off a post about how so in so car is really inexpensive…..you get what you pay for. Let it go. Everybody is in the same situation. Either walk or pay up.

No disrespect, but that EV take is nonsense. We are on our 3rd one - and they are now affordable and in some ways more luxurious than ICE cars. It might not be in the suppleness of the leather, but it is in the NVH (noise, vibrations, harshness) and the fact that in some cases you may never have to stop at a gas station and deal with that nonsense - since your car can be full charged every morning.

Our old Lexus has nicer seats and a beautiful leather and wood steering wheel - but frankly, my wife's Kona Electric feels more luxurious - it is quieter (and the Lexus is not loud), it accelerates like a banshee - and the Kona is really more of an entry level, long range EV - it does not have all the regular luxury things you can get in more upscale EVs.

A Tesla Model 3 costs the same as a BMW 3 series.

Your car is an Audi A7, right? A new one starts at $70K, a Lucid Air starts at $77K (before the $7,500 tax credit from the Fed and whatever it is at your state) - so the price is basically the same, the A7 entry place gives you 335BHP and 369ft/lb torque, the entry level Lucid gives you 480BHP and 620 ft/lb torque.

There is absolutely no reason to purchase an A7 over a Lucid Air that I can come up with reasonably, the price is basically the same - and the Air is faster, quieter, nicer looking (debatable, the interior I think is much nicer, the exterior is questionable) and supposedly much nicer to drive and more sporty.

Sorry, the future, and for most people the present, is EVs. Time to wrap your head around it.
 
Do you have a source on Chomsky defending Pol Pot? I'd like to read about that.

In 1977 he published an article in the Nation saying the following:

"We do not pretend to know where the truth lies amidst these sharply conflicting assessments; rather, we again want to emphasize some crucial points. What filters through to the American public is a seriously distorted version of the evidence available, emphasizing alleged Khmer Rouge atrocities and downplaying or ignoring the crucial U.S. role, direct and indirect, in the torment that Cambodia has suffered"

In 1988, in Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media (his book) he wrote about the response to his article:

"it will in no way alter the conclusions we have reached on the central question addressed here: how the available facts were selected, modified, or sometimes invented to create a certain image offered to the general population. The answer to this question seems clear, and it is unaffected by whatever may yet be discovered about Cambodia in the future"

No disrespect - but that is not the writing of someone that accepts that his earlier argument is nonsense - since there was tons of documentation from all over the world of the Khmer Rouge conduct.
 
No disrespect, but that EV take is nonsense. We are on our 3rd one - and they are now affordable and in some ways more luxurious than ICE cars. It might not be in the suppleness of the leather, but it is in the NVH (noise, vibrations, harshness) and the fact that in some cases you may never have to stop at a gas station and deal with that nonsense - since your car can be full charged every morning.

Our old Lexus has nicer seats and a beautiful leather and wood steering wheel - but frankly, my wife's Kona Electric feels more luxurious - it is quieter (and the Lexus is not loud), it accelerates like a banshee - and the Kona is really more of an entry level, long range EV - it does not have all the regular luxury things you can get in more upscale EVs.

A Tesla Model 3 costs the same as a BMW 3 series.

Your car is an Audi A7, right? A new one starts at $70K, a Lucid Air starts at $77K (before the $7,500 tax credit from the Fed and whatever it is at your state) - so the price is basically the same, the A7 entry place gives you 335BHP and 369ft/lb torque, the entry level Lucid gives you 480BHP and 620 ft/lb torque.

There is absolutely no reason to purchase an A7 over a Lucid Air that I can come up with reasonably, the price is basically the same - and the Air is faster, quieter, nicer looking (debatable, the interior I think is much nicer, the exterior is questionable) and supposedly much nicer to drive and more sporty.

Sorry, the future, and for most people the present, is EVs. Time to wrap your head around it.
I agree with you on this.
I also would add if we continue to support these products they will continue to become more affordable and even better all around.
I currently drive a Chevy Silverado and I'm hoping the new EV Silverado will be good. I know Ford is working hard to get us there also.
Either way i feel we must continue to support the new technology.
 
But....... why?

Because in my very amateur assessment of this situation, I think if Russia actually does a tactical/low yield nuke or chemical weapons in Ukraine the USA and Nato will respond. The easiest way for Russia to keep us out of Europe and Ukraine would be to use an EMP strike against us. You take down the entire power grid in North America and our troops are needed here at home to restore and maintain order.

Also an EMP attack IMO does not justify us nuking Russia. So we're living in the stone age for 2-3 years but the world is living too.
 
Trump calls on Putin to release dirt on Hunter Biden
It’s the latest example of the former president soliciting foreign governments to intervene to damage his domestic political rivals.

Former President Donald Trump in a new interview called on Russian President Vladimir Putin to release information regarding alleged dealings between Eastern European oligarchs and Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden’s son.

Trump’s remarks, in an interview with discredited far-right journalist John Solomon, were published Tuesday by the “Just the News” television show on the Real America’s Voice network.

In making his claims about Hunter Biden, Trump cited the findings of a controversial, highly politicized investigation by Senate Republicans into the Bidens, which was published just weeks before the 2020 election and produced little new evidence of wrongdoing.

Trump has repeatedly promoted dubious claims of foreign business dealings by Hunter Biden, specifically alleging that he received millions of dollars from the wife of Moscow’s late mayor, Yury Luzhkov.

“She gave him $3.5 million so now I would think Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it,” Trump said in the interview, conducted at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. “I think we should know that answer.”

Trump failed to mention that he himself sought to do business with Luzhkov’s government in the late 1990s, according to POLITICO. Trump also was pursuing high-profile real estate deals in Russia as recently as 2016, including a proposed Trump Tower Moscow.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/29/trump-putin-hunter-biden-00021223
 
Because in my very amateur assessment of this situation, I think if Russia actually does a tactical/low yield nuke or chemical weapons in Ukraine the USA and Nato will respond. The easiest way for Russia to keep us out of Europe and Ukraine would be to use an EMP strike against us. You take down the entire power grid in North America and our troops are needed here at home to restore and maintain order.

Also an EMP attack IMO does not justify us nuking Russia. So we're living in the stone age for 2-3 years but the world is living too.

Did you happen to buy a faraday bag that's big enough for your whole house?
 
Did you happen to buy a faraday bag that's big enough for your whole house?
YES!

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In 1977 he published an article in the Nation saying the following:

"We do not pretend to know where the truth lies amidst these sharply conflicting assessments; rather, we again want to emphasize some crucial points. What filters through to the American public is a seriously distorted version of the evidence available, emphasizing alleged Khmer Rouge atrocities and downplaying or ignoring the crucial U.S. role, direct and indirect, in the torment that Cambodia has suffered"

In 1988, in Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media (his book) he wrote about the response to his article:

"it will in no way alter the conclusions we have reached on the central question addressed here: how the available facts were selected, modified, or sometimes invented to create a certain image offered to the general population. The answer to this question seems clear, and it is unaffected by whatever may yet be discovered about Cambodia in the future"

No disrespect - but that is not the writing of someone that accepts that his earlier argument is nonsense - since there was tons of documentation from all over the world of the Khmer Rouge conduct.
What did he say that was wrong? I guess I'm just not seeing it. The original take was just cautioning people to be careful about their sources and said that he didn't know for certain what was going on.

I guess I just don't see the problem with it.
 
Because in my very amateur assessment of this situation, I think if Russia actually does a tactical/low yield nuke or chemical weapons in Ukraine the USA and Nato will respond. The easiest way for Russia to keep us out of Europe and Ukraine would be to use an EMP strike against us. You take down the entire power grid in North America and our troops are needed here at home to restore and maintain order.

Also an EMP attack IMO does not justify us nuking Russia. So we're living in the stone age for 2-3 years but the world is living too.
Don't worry. The physical impact of any bomb extends further than the EMP.

If an EMP damages your phone you're likely too crispy to care.
 
Don't worry. The physical impact of any bomb extends further than the EMP.

If an EMP damages your phone you're likely too crispy to care.

1. A nuclear bomb exploding in the atmosphere can cause an EMP and not irradiate the population.

2. US, China, and Russia are all working on weapons that cause a strong electromagnetic pulse and are not nuclear weapons.
 

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