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ehizzy3 said:
Putin is smiling right now I can tell you that

fuck Trump, I can’t wait till our military starts the coup since our congress is also compromised
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That will never happen.
 
Vance's disgusting smirk.

Lindsey Graham already kissing Trump's ass over kicking out Zelenskyy.

Funny how somethings stick with you for years, even decades.

I was a young UC Berkeley student when I heard a talk about Stalin that included a lot about Stalin Hitler pact. The speaker was old enough so that he remembered the event contemporaneously. He described Ribbentrop and Molotov toasting one another. His comment that I have never forgotten, "their faces were the ugliest I have ever seen".

I have now seen it.
 
Hoopguru said:
Dems just have to select the right person and it's over. When they select the right person they win.
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I think you're probably right. But that person is going to have to have a different platform than corporate Democrats have had.

That has turned away too many people and that is why so many of them stay home and or support populist candidates.
 
agre 100
Phatguysrule said:
I think you're probably right. But that person is going to have to have a different platform than corporate Democrats have had.

That has turned away too many people and that is why so many of them stay home and or support populist candidates.
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agree 100%.
 
Hoopguru said:
Zelenski will fly to Maralago and sign deal.
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Not sure why. Trump already said it will will be up to Putin to offer concessions and stop the war. It's just an assets grab with Ukraine getting nothing in return. Zelensky better read that contract carefully before signing it.
 
Chris Craig said:
Not sure why. Trump already said it will will be up to Putin to offer concessions and stop the war. It's just an assets grab with Ukraine getting nothing in return. Zelensky better read that contract carefully before signing it.
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Trump probably think if we are mining in Ukraine and that Putin will stop. Just guess. You know he cutting Putin in on something.
 
Hoopguru said:
Trump probably think if we are mining in Ukraine and that Putin will stop. Just guess. You know he cutting Putin in on something.
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Oh Putin will get cut in. Trump was already getting ready to make a deal with Putin, probably the involving taking Ukraine and halfing mining rights.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
The only way Vance gets to be president is if Trump bites it before the 2028 election. Vance is a rude and toxic asshole but he's no Trump and the MAGAt base knows it. Trump won't even endorse him and keeps him on a short leash. Once Trump is gone his base is headless. He has made sure that he has no heir apparent because of his own insecurities. He doesn't trust anyone enough. Even Musk is going to find that one out the hard way. Vance is barely clinging to Trump's coattails.
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Trump's favorability among his own base plummeted when he said Vance was his running mate. It was and is a shitshow. Vance has no real say in anything.

I think once Trump dies the cult dies. There isn't really anyone who has been elected (see how i exclude Musk, who would never win a fair election) or anyone in his family or inner circle that will have the pull he does. It dies with him.
 
I know Trump, Vance and Putin are awful and that will be the story, but man I hope Zelenskyy has some honest people around him, the type that will tell him that it's a bad idea to get baited into a debate on live TV in your second language by an argumentative millenial prick barely relevant to the negotiations.
 
Natebishop3 said:
They did this deliberately. Putin has clearly ordered Trump to isolate America so that he can attack Europe.

The next step will be pulling out of NATO.
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Putin doesn’t have enough army left at this point to take on Europe in a conventional war. In a couple of years? Sure. Europe had better get busy building their forces up.

Hard to believe one demented, dyed-blonde, orange-skinned, no-conscience, prick could cause so much trouble for the world.
 
bulls_with_booz said:
I know Trump, Vance and Putin are awful and that will be the story, but man I hope Zelenskyy has some honest people around him, the type that will tell him that it's a bad idea to get baited into a debate on live TV in your second language by an argumentative millenial prick barely relevant to the negotiations.
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It was so blatantly obvious what they were trying to do.
 
New York Times: If Roosevelt had ordered Churchill to make peace with Hitler on any terms and hand over half of Britain's coal reserves to the US for nothing in return, it would have approximated what Trump did today.
 
This morning, Senator Lindsey Graham posted a video of how excited he was that Zelenskyy was here and how much he admires Ukraine president. After Trump reality TV, Graham said Zelenskyy must resign. Senator Roger Wicker poster a tweet this morning of himself shaking hands with Zelenskyy and saying it was an honor to meet him. After reality TV he took it down and wouldn't reply to media requests for comment. As a Senator, Marco Rubio had been a strong supporter of Ukraine. Today he issued a statement in support of dear leader that could have been written in North Korea.

A representative of Russian state TV was there live streaming the reality TV show. Afterwards, White House press secretary didn't know who he was or how he got there. Because people just stroll into the Oval Office all the time.
 
crandc said:
This morning, Senator Lindsey Graham posted a video of how excited he was that Zelenskyy was here and how much he admires Ukraine president. After Trump reality TV, Graham said Zelenskyy must resign. Senator Roger Wicker poster a tweet this morning of himself shaking hands with Zelenskyy and saying it was an honor to meet him. After reality TV he took it down and wouldn't reply to media requests for comment. As a Senator, Marco Rubio had been a strong supporter of Ukraine. Today he issued a statement in support of dear leader that could have been written in North Korea.

A representative of Russian state TV was there live streaming the reality TV show. Afterwards, White House press secretary didn't know who he was or how he got there. Because people just stroll into the Oval Office all the time.
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Selling their souls
 
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