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Ah, so then by this premise its plausible that Kevin Long was no longer getting players buying what he was selling. Not some and not all...but enough to warrant firing and "going in another direction."

I rest my case.



...lmao..."rest your case"?...on what?

...when did I praise Long?...I didn't. And after explaining it on multiple occasions, you still can't grasp what I really took issue with. You're still stuck on Long alone and that was never the sticking point with me...rest your case?...gimme a fucking break.



...don't know what your problem is lately, and like I've said before, I really don't care.
 
...hiring someone that was once a great hitter doesn't always work out, and it surely won't work unless he's working with the right group of hitters on a certain team.

...getting stubborn batters to buy into what the coach is showing them is the problem...before every game during batting practice, players take some time out of the pregame session to hit a few balls to the opposite field and/or up the middle. So the ability to do so is obviously there.
...unfortunately, the coach cannot make the hitter apply this batting practice drill to actual game time ABs. That mindset is ultimately up to the individual player himself. And stubbornly myopic pull hitting sluggers like Tex still insist on trying to hit through the shift, which plays right into the hands of the defense and hurts his team's chances of being productive.

Most great hitters are horrible coaches.... Just saying

...Ted Williams comes to mind.

Ya'll are right pretty much spot on....

I've read in numerous sources, bios, even Wiki states, "Carew helped the Angels hit >.40 points higher during his tenure as Halo's Hitting Coach..." Yet no articles have provided the specific details to prove so....

I've looked at the Angels Batting Averages, (less the Pitchers inter-league at bats), and I just don't see it at all.
Sure the Angels did hit 40 points higher one year. Yet- those stats don't take into account the rookie Darren Erstads 1st year record, of obtaining more hits than any other Angel rookie in the history of the Org. It doesn't take into account ANY variables, like 2nd and 3rd year players, who finally found their swing, timing or groove. Doesn't take into account, roster changes, obtaining other players from outside the org, albeit FA's or Trades.

Time equates to improvement in most matters, other than decadence, which often abounds in its own rite.

I've poured over those stats in the time frame Carew was the Hitting Instructor, and just DON'T SEE IT. Again, the statement quoted, lacks any and all specifics to prove its own point.

2ndly, had Carew really enabled Angels Hitters to improve their averages, then why didn't the same apply or happen, when Carew became the BrewHaHas hitting instructor????????? I don't see it, and:

Men manipulate numbers to their own advantage, to say what they want them to say, take shit make it look and smell like a rose, or take a rose and make it smell like shit.

Like life, the rose doesn't grow without that shit (fertilizer) and at times, we have to go thru the shit to smell the fragrance of life, otherwise their would be no rose buds....! :lol:

I've seen several threads on how Ted Williams could not take his Senators and turn them into Hitting at will machines....IMHO, that says it all......!!!

"There is nothing new that we can say, poets (teachers) hands only re-arrange those flowers of word boquets"...
 
Off Topic, but: Case in poin;t on statistics manipulation:

When say lets use a document for sample sizes: If 1 work document, blueprint, shipping manifests, Specs, Procedures, have 30 errors on One Document which has 50,000 lines of instruction. Those errors are not calculated by 30 errors over 50,000 lines, which would be a .00033 error rate. or a .9967 success rate. That doesn't look to bad for statistics....

When in fact 1 document (sample size) with that many errors equates to .3300 error rate, or .67000 success rate. Each measurable system, process, et al., associated with these stats should never be errant beyond: The bar is set at .9999967 success/failure rate(s). No more than 4 parts per million samples.

Yet even this system (6 Sigma) is inherently flawed, as the tail wags the dog....
 
honestly, stop being a DICK, for the last 5 months or so all you have been doing is trying your hardest to make others dislike me, who cares! who cares that i played the game!

get out of the desert and get a freekin life!
 
The Wash Senators won 86 (?) games in 1969 with Ted managing.
86 wins for the Nats of that era was pretty darn good...to say the least.

I know one season with 86 wins doesn't make a resume but I just thought it needed to be said. Nothing else.
 
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...^^^that was his first year with an inherited team...and every year there after his teams' record got worse.

1970 ... 70 wins

1972 ... 63 wins

1973... 54 wins



...4 year managerial record was 273 wins 364 losses
 
...^^^that was his first year with an inherited team...and every year there after his teams' record got worse.

1970 ... 70 wins

1972 ... 63 wins

1973... 54 wins



...4 year managerial record was 273 wins 364 losses

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ouch!


1970- Four MLB teams won +90 games,

Balt 108
Minn 98
Reds 102
Yanks won 93, good enough to go home.

ooch!
 
...wtf does Orwell and a book written in 1949 have to do with this? Words, terms, and their accepted uses change over the years. Like I already pointed out, the term has more than one usage and meaning, and you "assumed" the incorrect one...your mistake.

...how many different definition sources would you like?

...And stop telling me what context I was using the term in and my intent...because you obviously have no idea. In post #2, rick asked a simple question and I gave a simple answer. Again, "doublespeak" does not necessarily have to be a good or a bad thing. Cashman did not want to go into detail so he used the euphemistic "going in another direction". But for whatever reason, you decided to interject your own version of the meaning and went off on a tangent of grammatical hair splitting.

...clear it up for ya?

Yes its perfectly clear that on this topic you're an idiot.
 
...lmao..."rest your case"?...on what?

...when did I praise Long?...I didn't. And after explaining it on multiple occasions, you still can't grasp what I really took issue with. You're still stuck on Long alone and that was never the sticking point with me...rest your case?...gimme a fucking break.



...don't know what your problem is lately, and like I've said before, I really don't care.

My problem? Other than not laying down or giving in to you twisting words and deflecting points....nothing. And before you get all offended again, just shake my hand and agree to disagree and drop it. I can let it go, can you? Demonstrate it by not even replying to this post. ;)
 
Yes its perfectly clear that on this topic you're an idiot.

...great retort...nothing of substance naturally, and now your only recourse is an insult ?

...I explained myself clearly even after you clearly misinterpreted my initial post. Again, that's your error, not mine...live with it.
 
My problem? Other than not laying down or giving in to you twisting words and deflecting points....nothing. And before you get all offended again, just shake my hand and agree to disagree and drop it. I can let it go, can you? Demonstrate it by not even replying to this post. ;)


...No, I won't "shake your hand", especially after referring to me as an "idiot"...gee, why wouldn't I "get offended"?

...You keep making statements you cannot defend. I twisted nothing, and I deflected nothing, and you know it. Your whole basis in this thread is rooted in the fact that you mistakenly applied your own singular definition to a term I used, and thereby created a totally unnecessary shitstorm...again, the error was yours, not mine.

...and I'll only "drop it" on my terms, not yours.
 
Tom with all due respect if anyone has been coming off as an idiot of late its been you. What's up?
 

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