US Airstrikes Against ISIS Targets Under Way in Syria

[MarAzul]

More CAN you win, is HOW do you win, and what is defined as a win, I think. Establishing democracy somewhere, eliminating a dictator, etc.

Spot on. What has to be accomplished to complete the win? I don't think the answer to that questions every include "establishing democracy" or it shouldn't for the US.

 

[julius]

That's exactly what I'm not saying. You can be in support of a president and not support certain policies or decisions. Whats disheartening is that you think because you disagree with one thing, you must be "all in" with everything. That's hardly not the case.

What I would love to see are democrats that actually stand up for what they believe in instead of blindly following and defending their party leader.

well, both sides do that. There is no denying that republicans were jumping off the bridge with Bush, blindly and willfully.

 

[magnifier661]

well, both sides do that. There is no denying that republicans were jumping off the bridge with Bush, blindly and willfully.

That's exactly the problem. We as people need to rise up against what we hold true and stop the "blind defense" to our party's leaders. When that happens, more good will come out of it.

Of course I'm a republican, and I tend to be more bias to the party, but if the asshole is fucking up, I won't hesitate to call them out publicly

 

[julius]

More CAN you win, is HOW do you win, and what is defined as a win, I think. Establishing democracy somewhere, eliminating a dictator, etc.

Good points. when you change the definition of what constitutes a "win", anything would be a win.

Much like the Iraq and the Afghanistan wars. What constituted a rational FOR the war and what counted as a "win" IN the war, changed on a regular basis (i.e., "Mission Accomplished" back in 2003, when the war was a good 10 years from being "finished" at that point). To me, that is a clear indication that the rules for that war had changed, and showcased a failure in the planning and execution of the war.

 

[MarAzul]

That's exactly the problem. We as people need to rise up against what we hold true and stop the "blind defense" to our party's leaders. When that happens, more good will come out of it.

Of course I'm a republican, and I tend to be more bias to the party, but if the asshole is fucking up, I won't hesitate to call them out publicly

George's years of Nation building in Iraq drove me nuts. I thought we should have left when he first declared victory. The Iragi's were hunting Saddam and it was up to them to sort out what kind of country they wanted.
It sure couldn't have turned out any worse than it did.

 

[barfo]

Did you support GW invading Iraq?

Doesn't it feel good to be asking questions again?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

Doesn't it feel good to be asking questions again?

barfo

Do you like the democratic "Finger prying" approach?

 

[barfo]

Do you like the democratic "Finger prying" approach?

Would it bother you if I did?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

More CAN you win, is HOW do you win, and what is defined as a win, I think. Establishing democracy somewhere, eliminating a dictator, etc.

And bombing targets is hardly the case for doing such a thing. It's a tool, but you can't take their word for it.

 

[magnifier661]

Would it bother you if I did?

barfo

Would it bother you if I cared?

 

[barfo]

Would it bother you if I cared?

If you didn't care, why would you bother?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

If you didn't care, why would you bother?

barfo

Or better yet, if you didn't whine like a baby, would you be considered a republican?

Mags

 

[barfo]

Or better yet, if you didn't whine like a baby, would you be considered a republican?

Mags

Since all republicans whine like babies, isn't "no" the obvious answer to that question?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

Since all republicans whine like babies, isn't "no" the obvious answer to that question?

barfo

Are you using my material because you don't have a brain like most democrats?

 

[barfo]

Are you using my material because you don't have a brain like most democrats?

Are you trying to be insulting?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

Are you trying to be insulting?

barfo

Are you trying to impress me?

 

[barfo]

Are you trying to impress me?

Why would I bother?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

Why would I bother?

barfo

Would you mind if I took a big fat black fist dildo and shove it up your asshole?

 

[julius]

This reminds me of a Whose Line Is It Anyways bit...where they can only talk in questions.

 

[barfo]

Would you mind if I took a big fat black fist dildo and shove it up your asshole?

Doesn't it worry you that you get turned on by that sort of idea?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

Doesn't it worry you that you get turned on by that sort of idea?

barfo

Does it bother you that you turning me on turns you on?

 

[barfo]

Does it bother you that you turning me on turns you on?

Aren't you completely sexually and politically confused?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

Aren't you completely sexually and politically confused?

barfo

Do you use cherry flavor with your semen shake?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

BBBJ?

 

[oldguy]

One raid on a grain silo in Manbij, in Aleppo province, left several civilians dead, the Syrian Observatory's director Rami Abdul Rahman reported. "They killed only civilians there, workers at the site. There was no IS inside," he told the Associated Press.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29408101

I trust, now that US air strikes are killing innocents, that we will hear the same kind of comments from the left that we heard when Bush was President. You remember, like, the US in no better than the terrorists, because we are murdering civilians....and, no blood for oil.

I can expect to hear that soon, right? Right? Same thing should result in the same reactions, right?

Go Blazers

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Yes

 

[Minstrel]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29408101

I trust, now that US air strikes are killing innocents, that we will hear the same kind of comments from the left that we heard when Bush was President. You remember, like, the US in no better than the terrorists, because we are murdering civilians....and, no blood for oil.

I can expect to hear that soon, right? Right? Same thing should result in the same reactions, right?

Go Blazers

Killing civilians is as bad under Obama as it was under Bush.

 

[oldguy]

I get that, as you seem to. What I don't get is why there were so many rabid dogs about killing civilians when it happened with Bush in charge, and not a frick'n word when it happens under the current President.

Seems hypocritical that left gives the President a pass.

Go Blazers

 

[Denny Crane]

I get that, as you seem to. What I don't get is why there were so many rabid dogs about killing civilians when it happened with Bush in charge, and not a frick'n word when it happens under the current President.

Seems hypocritical that left gives the President a pass.

Go Blazers

What does victory look like? What's the plan to actually achieve it?

 

[oldguy]

Just guessing, but victory is probably when we put the Muslim sect of the President's choosing into power. We achieve it by helping to kill the opposition.

Kinda like the IRS vs Tea Party, only with bombs.

Go Blazers