OT US has begun air strikes on Syria

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

I've actually survived a war Cippy....I know exactly what horrible results war produces....Assad gassed civilians....when you do that, expect the world to piss on your parade....war is fucking ugly....I'm not cheering for death but you're not seeing the big picture from what I've read
Assad gassed civilians so we should stick our noses where it doesn’t belong and bomb them and whatever innocent civilians are in our way or happen to die, fuck em right? Nothing is going to stop them, this is gonna be a cycle as history has shown. You think you can keep bad people from doing bad things? It’s never happened. They will continue. Fighting fire with fire isn’t the answer
 
Assad gassed civilians so we should stick our noses where it doesn’t belong and bomb them and whatever innocent civilians are in our way or happen to die, fuck em right? Nothing is going to stop them, this is gonna be a cycle as history has shown. You think you can keep bad people from doing bad things? It’s never happened. They will continue. Fighting fire with fire isn’t the answer

When you figure out what the answer is, let us know.

barfo
 
You are absolutely right, I have no proof. Whereas you have proof, for sure.

So it surely must be a conspiracy, which involves both US and al-Qaeda to keep quiet about how he actually died. Impressive that we work together with our enemies so well that they allow us to claim we killed their leader when they know otherwise.

barfo
Surprise surprise, we disagree. That’s fine.
 
You think you can keep bad people from doing bad things? It’s never happened. They will continue.
It's best not to assume what others think....express your own thoughts and stop second guessing people for a start....I abhor war...bombs...weapons of destruction across the board but that doesn't mean shit...they're here and idiots use them....I think I've kept some people from doing bad things in life....I used to counsel vets with PTSD.....I work with quadraplegics....yeah....I've helped people who were severly depressed....does that make me one of your folks with the head in the sand?
 
When you figure out what the answer is, let us know.

barfo
Well I sure as fuck know killing civilians isn’t the answer. You wanna know the answer? Not doing anything at all. That’s what. Just like bush and his bullshit weapons of mass destructions. That war killed and fucked up many of our own soldiers, disgusting to think how many killed themselves because the elites don’t give a shit about the young kids they send into war. They don’t take care of them. Then we killed thousands of innocent civilians via drone bombing in the last 17 years we have been over there. That’s my answer. Don’t get involved because there is absolutely no reason.
 
Everything I said was pure fact. You saying pure babble to it shows you have nothing to say to it, nothing to counter with.
your post I responded to was pure babble...stereotypical ranting and full of assumption....when you want to have a conversation...you learn to listen as well as speechify
 
Well I sure as fuck know killing civilians isn’t the answer. You wanna know the answer? Not doing anything at all. That’s what. Just like bush and his bullshit weapons of mass destructions. That war killed and fucked up many of our own soldiers, disgusting to think how many killed themselves because the elites don’t give a shit about the young kids they send into war. They don’t take care of them. Then we killed thousands of innocent civilians via drone bombing in the last 17 years we have been over there. That’s my answer. Don’t get involved because there is absolutely no reason.
have you been sent to war? I have.....
 
It's best not to assume what others think....express your own thoughts and stop second guessing people for a start....I abhor war...bombs...weapons of destruction across the board but that doesn't mean shit...they're here and idiots use them....I think I've kept some people from doing bad things in life....I used to counsel vets with PTSD.....I work with quadraplegics....yeah....I've helped people who were severly depressed....does that make me one of your folks with the head in the sand?
My grandpa served as a marine yet he is still an ignorant old fool thinking we should bomb them all he used to say back when the war on terror was going on. So yeah, you can most definitely still have your head in the sand. You say you despise war, yet you are still in a way campaigning for it no matter who dies yet you have clearly helped people as well so if anything your view on it is just plain confusing
 
What does this have to do with everything I just said? Absolutely nothing
scientific method....stop talking at people and have conversations...you're a bright kid, just tend to like your soapbox a bit more than you probably should
 
Well I sure as fuck know killing civilians isn’t the answer. You wanna know the answer? Not doing anything at all. That’s what. Just like bush and his bullshit weapons of mass destructions. That war killed and fucked up many of our own soldiers, disgusting to think how many killed themselves because the elites don’t give a shit about the young kids they send into war. They don’t take care of them. Then we killed thousands of innocent civilians via drone bombing in the last 17 years we have been over there. That’s my answer. Don’t get involved because there is absolutely no reason.

Well, we agree about the Iraq war. So there's that. And, we agree about Syria at present also - I don't think the bombing accomplished anything at all.

So, don't get involved anywhere in the world, no matter what? Or just don't get involved in Syria at this moment? Let Hitler take over Europe? Or not? Where's your line?

barfo
 
My grandpa served as a marine yet he is still an ignorant old fool thinking we should bomb them all he used to say back when the war on terror was going on. So yeah, you can most definitely still have your head in the sand. You say you despise war, yet you are still in a way campaigning for it no matter who dies yet you have clearly helped people as well so if anything your view on it is just plain confusing
bye Cippy.....respect...pass it on....I'm not engaging this anymore
 
scientific method....stop talking at people and have conversations...you're a bright kid, just tend to like your soapbox a bit more than you probably should
I’m talking to you and responding. If anything you aren’t even replying to what I said, you just asked if I have been sent to war. No I haven’t. I don’t know how else you want me to respond
 
Well, we agree about the Iraq war. So there's that. And, we agree about Syria at present also - I don't think the bombing accomplished anything at all.

So, don't get involved anywhere in the world, no matter what? Or just don't get involved in Syria at this moment? Let Hitler take over Europe? Or not? Where's your line?

barfo
Hitler was a rare case but obviously you have to take that guy out. I think in cases like that, it’s necessary but I don’t think there will be many more hitlers in the future who did that much evil to a group of people. That’s probably my line. The issue is, war and terrorist attacks go on all the time in the Middle East. It’s a revolving door of extreme ideologists over there. The chemical attack was horrible but that’s the type of shit that goes on over there. I don’t think that’s a good reason for the US to get involved. We aren’t gonna stop it as proven in the past
 
Hitler was a rare case but obviously you have to take that guy out. I think in cases like that, it’s necessary but I don’t think there will be many more hitlers in the future who did that much evil to a group of people. That’s probably my line. The issue is, war and terrorist attacks go on all the time in the Middle East. It’s a revolving door of extreme ideologists over there. The chemical attack was horrible but that’s the type of shit that goes on over there. I don’t think that’s a good reason for the US to get involved. We aren’t gonna stop it as proven in the past

Seems reasonable. I'd just note it may not always be easy to tell who's Hitler and who isn't until it's too late. Assad, having now won control of Syria, could end up being worse than Hitler. Or not.

barfo
 
My grandpa served as a marine yet he is still an ignorant old fool

Whoops! You over loaded your ass with that one Cippy. Your granpa was a Marine! Say it with respect and never speak fool in the same day.

We do not know now if the right thing has been done, and we don't know shit about why. What we do know is that our governement and our allies have decided to take this action. Now is the time for you to shut the fuck up and learn what's up. As time passes we probably will learn what we need to know to evaluate if the correct action has been taken. In the mean time call your grandfather and beg forgiveness for being a loudmouth and perhaps a ass if you let him know you spoke the fool word.
 
Seems reasonable. I'd just note it may not always be easy to tell who's Hitler and who isn't until it's too late. Assad, having now won control of Syria, could end up being worse than Hitler. Or not.

barfo
I mean possibly but given the sheer numbers of people Hitler had killed are insane. Who knows, I just think it’s a bad idea
 
Whoops! You over loaded your ass with that one Cippy. Your granpa was a Marine! Say it with respect and never speak fool in the same day.

We do not know now if the right thing has been done, and we don't know shit about why. What we do know is that our governement and our allies have decided to take this action. Now is the time for you to shut the fuck up and learn what's up. As time passes we probably will learn what we need to know to evaluate if the correct action has been taken. In the mean time call your grandfather and beg forgiveness for being a loudmouth and perhaps a ass if you let him know you spoke the fool word.
Come on mar. If you knew the man you would say the same. He came from Italian immigrants. Rough life In Chicago basically being surrounded by mafia types trying to recruit him. Dude was an alcoholic, very abusive towards my father when he was a kid. All my interactions with him were him trying to say I should be a marine and I would be a good one. This is during the bush administration and the war on terror. He’s never been a real grandfather to me. So for these reasons, yes he’s a fool. It’s not like I don’t respect what he’s done for this country or in general but he wasn’t never a real grandfather to me. Barely any relationship or attempt at one. So that’s why I say that. If you knew him, you would probably say the same
 
If you knew him, you would probably say the same
I would not. If I were to meet the man, I would give him the harty Semper Fi he deserves just as the Marines that served with me, included me in their Sempre Fi. Beyond that I would not judge him, Jesus reconmends we leave that to the boss. Perhaps you might step down off the high bench yourself.
There is no profit in judging your grandfather and I doubt you qualify. Although being of about your Grandfather age, I know you to be bright and coming lad. But not ready for this task.
 
I would not. I were to meet the man, I would give him the harty Semper Fi he deserves just as the Marines that served with me, included me in their Sempre Fi. Beyond that I would not judge him, Jesus reconmends we leave that to the boss. Perhaps you might step down off the high bench yourself.
There is no profit in judging your grandfather and I doubt you qualify. Although being of about your Grandfather age, I know you to be bright and coming lad. But not ready for this task.
I understand there is a tight bond amongst marines but sometimes you have to look past that and look at the actual man himself as well, not just that he was also a marine. There is more to life than that
 
I understand there is a tight bond amongst marines but sometimes you have to look past that and look at the actual man himself as well, not just that he was also a marine. There is more to life than that
Well then read the other half my post.

Have a good evening, I have no more to say on this.
 
Well then read the other half my post.

Have a good evening, I have no more to say on this.
I did, I just don’t understand why you got so heated. You don’t know my grandpa yet you think he’s a great man based on the fact he’s a marine. I told you I respect that fact about him. I respect him in general but that doesn’t take anything away from the fact he just isn’t a good grandfather at all. Two separate things being a marine and a good person.
 
Sounds like a judgement to me.
Well he has been in my life for 26 years. The only things he ever said to me when around me is how I should be a marine. Never gotten a call from him. Never had a relationship. Not saying he’s a bad guy but he hasn’t exactly been a good grandfather.
 
Well he has been in my life for 26 years. The only things he ever said to me when around me is how I should be a marine. Never gotten a call from him. Never had a relationship. Not saying he’s a bad guy but he hasn’t exactly been a good grandfather.

More judgement?

What have you done for him? Perhaps he already knows you pull judgements out your arse. You might want to try taking the lead, and leave the judgements to the qualified.
 
More judgement?

What have you done for him? Perhaps he already knows you pull judgements out your arse. You might want to try taking the lead, and leave the judgements to the qualified.
Well shit I don’t know, he hasn’t told me this ever since I was 13. What did you want me to do for him at that age? Sorry but your thinking is ass backwards and fairly typical of the old marine way of thinking. Just because he was a marine, you wanna give him all this credit. As if he was some superhero. Sorry but he isn’t and besides being a marine, he’s been a shitty grandfather.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top