Van Horn for Tim Thomas.

[gubagangsta]

Isiah is the man!!!!!!!!!!! every since he took over the Knicks he?s been shafting the other GM's around the league. He definitely is one of the best GMs when it comes down to making things happen. But I'm baffled but the Bucks why take a player who is known to be soft and never shows up in the playoffs, when you already got a good young team thats growing together.....Makes no sense. Atlanta is purely in the deal strictly for cap purposes.....guess the new owner want to start off with a clean slate.

 

[Vyper]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BuckFanatic22:</div><div class="quote_post">as a bucks fan, I like the trade, it works for both teams though. not that the fact you got thomas, because thomas vs KVH Straight up goes to KVH all day. But the fact you guys got Nazr. Zeke said he would have never made the trade if it was just KVH straight up for Thomas. I hope you guys don't have too many expectations for Thomas, he's a solid player with alot of talent that has gone to waste. I hear some of you calling him a big man considering he's 6'9/6'10 but he plays like he's about 6'4/6'5, i mean the guy has the perfect NBA body. but he averages under 5 RPG in over 30 mpg. don't get me wrong, I've never been a Thomas hater, and wish him well but glad to see him go. the only thing KVH lacks here is athleticism and usually when thomas trys to use that he gets out of control. Well again, thank God he's gone, this just means more for Dez mason and KVH can fill in the PF position which Thomas will never be able to play. good luck knick fans.</div>


sorry to disappoint but Van Horn aint a good choice for the PF spot...I'd stick with what the Bucks doin' now...KVH aint got the make up or the ability to play the 4,sh!t sometimes in the past he looked like he could barely play the 3.

 

[mike18946]

This trade clearly was only made because Knicks wanted a guy who would fit Stephon Marbury's style of play better. Van Horn has had a great season but isn't the kind of guy who can get up and down the floor on the break. Thomas can certainly do that, Knicks wanted a soild center which is what Nazr Mohammed is.

Bucks get a good scorer and rebounder, a guy who can shoot the three consistantly and more importantly a guy who can play more than just small forward. Because of Thomas's lack of success at PF, he is not a good rebounder which is why that plan didn't work very successfully. Adding Van Horn at least gives them some better options for their frontline.

I like this deal for both Knicks and Bucks

As for Hawks

Only words that matter here

CAP ROOM

 

[Henacy]

I think adding Narz Mohammed was a good job by thomas. but I dont know about the overall affects of this trade. Tim Thomas and Van Horn are similar players in imo. They both dont really have a dominate post game and spend to much time around the perimeter taking long jumpshots except Van Horn is a better spot up shooter. Tim Thomas is better of the dribble & on the fastbreak but I dont this trade upgrades the knicks that much. And this is a risky move by Isiah thomas because the Knicks were playing well. And making unnessary moves in the middle of the season could back fire.
I think Thomas made this trade only because he didnt get Rasheed Wallace. And combine that with the fact that he didnt like Van Horn from day one when he took over the GM job. I dont think Van Horn could have done anything to impress Thomas. Van horn has been a nice 3rd option for the Knicks this season imo. He has had some injury problems this season but he has try to play thru most of it which shows some improvment in his character & heart. I just hope this trade doesnt back fire on thomas & the knicks because I think Van horn was going to be a big part of the knicks playoff success.

 

[BuckFanatic22]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Big Nasty:</div><div class="quote_post">sorry to disappoint but Van Horn aint a good choice for the PF spot...I'd stick with what the Bucks doin' now...KVH aint got the make up or the ability to play the 4,sh!t sometimes in the past he looked like he could barely play the 3.</div>

I watch Van Horn all the time on league pass, at least he has some consitency. Van Horn's true spot is the 3, but when we go small he will be fine at the PF if Dez plays SF, why? because he can rebound better then thomas', thomas likes to camp on the 3 point line. it's simple though, Thomas's numbers keep declining. I like Timmy but when I watch him play it's like watching someone play in slow motion. he's more athletic then KVH but not as athletic as you think, he's VERY SLOW on defense, VERY ABSENT rebounding and NEVER plays with any intensity which does not fit our team. I'll take KVH's 16.5/7/2 in 33mpg compared to Thomas' 14/5/2 in 32mpg, and basically what our problem was is all Thomas' numbers came in the 1st and 3rd quarter, mostly 1st, he does not perform well in the clutch which is why he has not played any time in the last 8 minutes because Dez is a stud and always plays huge down the stretch with redd, it's sad redd and Dez are better rebounders then Thomas' at 6'5 and 6'6 while Thomas is 6'11 and just stands around and watches. either way, hope it works it out for ya, and i hope this works out for us, maybe Thomas' will learn to play the game the right way with you, maybe starbury can get some intensity out of him.

 

[M*gic]

wow, the knicks have really changed their look... thomas addition is nice... imo he can still be a star right now, maybe all he needs is a little motivation and bigger market this is a perfect fit, plus he's more physical and athletic than Van Horn, Marbury must really like this one...

 

[Mez]

This was a great trade by the Knicks, bringing in a solid backup who I've always felt was underrated, and an athletic guy like Thomas to play alongside Marbury. I also like this trade for the Bucks and Knicks, though I don't know what the hell the Hawks are trying to pull with two overpaid big men. Now there are three guys named Thomas in with the Knicks!!! I'm really excited and can't wait to see these guys play in a game. I like this lineup a lot, and I can't see how the Knicks can't get into the finals. If they all play up to their potential, I think they'll be able to handle Indiana.

 

[Milweskee]

The Knicks don't automatically win with this trade. Tim Thomas is really going to have to produce now. He has the ability to do it, but at the same time, he has the ability not to do it. I'm surprised by this move as well for the Bucks. I thought they would make space for D. Mase. Apparently that's not the case unless there is another deal being worked out. But it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

 

[Erin]

It's kinda disappointing to see Keith go. I thought he was playing well this year for the Knicks.

 

[Ravenous]

At first I was kind of shocked about that trade...however it looks like Tim Thomas will be a good additon...not a selfish player and we'll do whatever he needs in order to win...he is an outside threat and very athletic.....Muhommad is also a good rebounder...I'm sorry to see Van Horn's NY reign end so quickly....but I got trust in Zeke...he knows what hes doing!

 

[Ming637]

This season has really changed for the Knicks with everything happeing with Zeke.

02-03 line-up:

PG: Charlie Ward
SG: Allan Houston
SF: Latrell Sprewell
PF: Othella Harrington
C: Kurt Thomas

03-04 line-up

PG: Stephon Marbury
SG: Allan Houston
SF: Tim Thomas
PF: Kurt Thomas
C: Dikemebe Mutombo


Which line-up do you like better?

 

[Erin]

'03-'04.

 

[TMac_OwNz]

I really like this deal for the Knicks...as for the bucks I think is a great addition too ..I think is a great trade for both teams..but specially the Knicks...Tim Thomas is an excellent player he just needs some inspiration..some hype..something new...MSG?? lol that says it all? if you dont have enough how about New York New York? or Home Sweet Home (I think he is from NJ..) or Marbury ? or Knicks .. lol Im looking foward to see how both teams work out..as for the Hawks...check them out in a few seasons if not next one...lol they can do so much .

 

[BAdB0i87]

Tim Thomas can definitly run the floor better than KVH, and he has more hops too. So hopefully they'll have a good running game and lots of dunks and such to excite the crowd and gain momentum.

Mohammed is also pretty skilled offensively in the post unlike Deke. He should be able to play both the 4 and the 5.

 

[BuckFanatic22]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BAdB0i87:</div><div class="quote_post">Tim Thomas can definitly run the floor better than KVH, and he has more hops too. So hopefully they'll have a good running game and lots of dunks and such to excite the crowd and gain momentum.

Mohammed is also pretty skilled offensively in the post unlike Deke. He should be able to play both the 4 and the 5.</div>


Sorry but Thomas is not THAT athletic, sadly enough, the first few games, watching van horn, he is so much more under control then thomas. and seems to be just as quick, not more athletic, but quick. Thomas IS athletic, BUT he has no idea how to use it, he never will, and Thomas has weak hops, he's 6'10 and is so soft around the rim and rarely gets any dunks in. well, you're seeing this already, he's just not that good.