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Fez Von Savage said:
With Bridges on board, I'd try to pry Jackson from the Suns.
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This is what Olshey was talking about; going to teams that have surplus of wings after the draft. But also going to teams that are going adifferent direction, presumable young teams that would want to get rid of veterans, and Jackson doesn't seem to fit that.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
This is what Olshey was talking about; going to teams that have surplus of wings after the draft. But also going to teams that are going adifferent direction, presumable young teams that would want to get rid of veterans, and Jackson doesn't seem to fit that.
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There are maybe two or three wings that fit into our TPE that also fit that description. Literally. I checked. Lol. Courtney Lee, and Terrence Ross/Simmons.
 
BonesJones said:
Honestly, here's my ideal off-season plan. This first trade I think would be great for both sides.

Portland Gets:
Kenneth Faried
Wilson Chandler (TPE)
Darrell Arthur
Two Future 2nds

Denver Gets:
Evan Turner
$16.2M Trade Exception (Can outgoing players combine to produce a TPE @hoopsjock ? If not, it'd be almost $14M)

- Denver saves $16.2M in this deal, which would not only get them low enough to probably be able to re-sign Will Barton, they likely could use their full-MLE and avoid the tax. If MPJ is ready to go, he and Barton could handle SF duties. If not, Turner could play backup SF. They do need another ball handler and Turner would allow Murray to play off the ball more.
- We replace Turner with the better Chandler, and take on extra salary. However, Faried, Chandler, and Arthur are all expiring, so we would save $18M next season.

Then:
LA Clippers Get:
Kenneth Faried
Caleb Swanigan
2019 POR 1st

Portland Gets:
Tobias Harris

- LA is reportedly looking to shop Harris. Harrell is a solid PF option, and Faried could see minutes there as well. Since Faried matches Harris by himself, we can include Swanigan. Receiving a prospect and a 1st for Harris without taking on long-term salary is probably the best deal they can get.
- Harris would give us the starting PF we need as a guy who can shoot extremely well, take guys off the dribble, and isn't a bad defender at that position either.

Then:
Dallas Gets:
Meyers Leonard
Maurice Harkless
Future 2nds

Portland Gets:
Wesley Matthews

- Dallas gets some depth at the F spot, and Meyers might be a C they're interested in to space the floor for Smith, Doncic, and Barnes.
- We get a solid wing who's familiar with the city and expiring as our backup SG.

Lillard (35) / McCollum (13) / Simons / Baldwin
McCollum (21) / Matthews (23) / Chandler (4) / Trent
Harris (30) / Chandler (18) / Layman
Aminu (24) / Collins (24) / Arthur
Nurkic (28) / Davis (30) / Papagiannis

I really like that lineup, it's really deep stacked with two-way players on the bench. We wouldn't use our MLE either, which could make it possible ( to sign buy-out candidates after the trade deadline, which we could hopefully consolidate some of our expiring contracts into a higher-level player. Aminu and Harris are interchangeable forwards, and Aminu could take the best of the two forwards and put Harris on the weaker of the two (and Harris isn't a bad defender). That team is much berrer IMO.

Going into the 2019 off-season, we could have Nurk coming of a QO (so his cap hold would be less than $10M), and only have Lillard, McCollum, and rookie contracts on the books.We'd have Collins hopefully ready to step into the starting PF roll. That could mean $30M+ in cap space. If Golden State can't pay Klay, that could be a great target as a kind who grew up here and who could start at SF. We'd have flexibility surrounding a solid core.
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I absolutely would love this. All of it. Someone forward this to Olshey's tanning booth.
 
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Scalma said:
There are maybe two or three wings that fit into our TPE that also fit that description. Literally. I checked. Lol. Courtney Lee, and Terrence Ross/Simmons.
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How good is that guy Simmons?
 
I would love to have a rejuvenated Faried. The guy is an animal on the glass and is good for a highlight dunk or block every night. He'd bring some excitement and toughness off the bench. Maybe even start alongside Harris and Nurk until Collins is ready.
I'm tired of Mo and Aminu getting big minutes. They've gone as far as they can with those two.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
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How good is that guy Simmons?
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He’d be an upgrade. Not sure it’s worth the tax though. I watched a lot of magic games this year because of Hezonja. Kind of inconsistent as a shooter but tough nosed and can contribute on both ends.
 
KingSpeed said:
I like your ideas, BonesJones.
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Scalma said:
He’d be an upgrade. Not sure it’s worth the tax though. I watched a lot of magic games this year because of Hezonja. Kind of inconsistent as a shooter but tough nosed and can contribute on both ends.
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What about signing Hezonja?
 
Cheese22 said:
He looked good with the Spurs. Very good defender and decent offensively.
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Yeh and it looks as if he can make plays for others also. Here is a blurb from Draft Express from the summer league after his one year with Spurs: "Simmons is a strong and athletic guard, and although he finished 2nd in Utah in scoring at 22 points per game behind teammate Kyle Anderson, he is at his best with the ball in his hands making plays for others. He has excellent vision and uses his ball handling abilities and size to clear space and make passes over the top of defenses. Simmons is a dynamic athlete in transition and a capable spot up shooter off the ball, knocking down a career best 40% on 50 attempts with the Spurs last season. He has also proven to be a factor on the defensive end, using his strength and quickness to guard multiple positions on the floor. "- Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/The-Top-Five-Performers-at-the-2016-Utah-Summer-League-5634/ ©DraftExpress
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Yeh and it looks as if he can make plays for others also. Here is a blurb from Draft Express from the summer league after his one year with Spurs: "Simmons is a strong and athletic guard, and although he finished 2nd in Utah in scoring at 22 points per game behind teammate Kyle Anderson, he is at his best with the ball in his hands making plays for others. He has excellent vision and uses his ball handling abilities and size to clear space and make passes over the top of defenses. Simmons is a dynamic athlete in transition and a capable spot up shooter off the ball, knocking down a career best 40% on 50 attempts with the Spurs last season. He has also proven to be a factor on the defensive end, using his strength and quickness to guard multiple positions on the floor. "- Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/The-Top-Five-Performers-at-the-2016-Utah-Summer-League-5634/ ©DraftExpress
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Simmons is an athletic freak but times I have seen him he can tend to play out of control and Pops obviously wasn't all that enamored with him at times either. Consistency seems to be an issue as well as he can give you 25 one night and then 5 the next. He might be worth inquiring about but he's also on a reasonable contract so not sure Orlando is looking to move him.

Rodney Hood would be one I would think should draw some interest from Portland as well.
 
Gronk Brady said:
What about signing Hezonja?
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hoopsjock said:
We'll see, I'm sure several teams will offer him the tax-MLE (the max we can offer) or even the full-MLE so signing him might be tough.
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I can’t see Hezonja getting more than the tax MLE, but I don’t think he fits what we’re looking for. Never been in the playoffs. Not proven in any role.
 
Actually now that I think about it, Mario should go to Europe for two years, ball out, and then hit the market again when there’s more money available around the league.
 
I've been biased for MKG since I wished he would drop so that we could get him and Dame 6/10 in the draft. C'est la vie.

But he makes exactly 13M, which is exactly the TPE (from my last memory of the calculations).
He fits the mold of "former lotto picks that haven't unlocked everything, for whatever reason," that our front office seems to like.
He is not an awesome 1v1 defender (like Kawhi or Gobert), but a bit more like Draymond where he just sees things happening and the defense is better somehow with him out there. By a lot.
CHA probably isn't stoked about paying him Meyers Leonard money.
If we roll with Dame/CJ/MKG/(Collins or Aminu)/Nurk, we have 3 big scoring options, a safety valve and 3 great team defenders.

Now, will Cho's replacement give him up for free (or throw in something?!) ? Unsure.
 
BrianFromWA said:
I've been biased for MKG since I wished he would drop so that we could get him and Dame 6/10 in the draft. C'est la vie.

But he makes exactly 13M, which is exactly the TPE (from my last memory of the calculations).
He fits the mold of "former lotto picks that haven't unlocked everything, for whatever reason," that our front office seems to like.
He is not an awesome 1v1 defender (like Kawhi or Gobert), but a bit more like Draymond where he just sees things happening and the defense is better somehow with him out there. By a lot.
CHA probably isn't stoked about paying him Meyers Leonard money.
If we roll with Dame/CJ/MKG/(Collins or Aminu)/Nurk, we have 3 big scoring options, a safety valve and 3 great team defenders.

Now, will Cho's replacement give him up for free (or throw in something?!) ? Unsure.
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MKG reminds me of another Moe.
 
Driew said:
MKG reminds me of another Moe.
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Minus any kind of outside shot. MKG hasn’t developed into the kind of defender I thought he would. And his offense is offensive.
 
Reep said:
Minus any kind of outside shot. MKG hasn’t developed into the kind of defender I thought he would. And his offense is offensive.
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Yeah it has come to the point in todays NBA game that every player (other than maybe the center spot) needs to be able to shoot or they are very much limited to a role player off the bench. I am not trying to imply defense is an over rated skill, because it is extremely important, but there is a huge separation in terms of importance between offensive and defensive players IMO.
 
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