Vince #19 on Slam's Best Players list

[Karma]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">19. Vince Carter


By Jake Appleman


It?s hard to fathom now because he?s the most important player on my favorite team, but it wasn?t even two years ago when Vince Carter received an angry letter from an old friend on The Links.

(December ?04) Dear Vince,

I know you don?t have very much appreciation for me. I?ve always wanted to chill, but you remain at a distance, scoping out the scene from the perimeter. We?ve had our moments, but haven?t recently built the bond that you need to sustain true superstardom in this league. I hope you consider me in your future basketball related endeavors, even though they probably won?t be in the T Dot. The best things in life are free, but you must first make sacrifices.

Sincerely,

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I'm surprised he's placed ahead of Amare.

 

[NJNetz]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm surprised he's placed ahead of Amare.</div>

Amare's injury might have to do with him being lower.

I'm surprised they put him at #19, I expected somewhere in the 20's.

 

[Krstic]

i expected lower...we all have different expectations

 

[Chutney]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">December ‘04) Dear Vince,

I know you don’t have very much appreciation for me. I’ve always wanted to chill, but you remain at a distance, scoping out the scene from the perimeter. We’ve had our moments, but haven’t recently built the bond that you need to sustain true superstardom in this league. I hope you consider me in your future basketball related endeavors, even though they probably won’t be in the T Dot. The best things in life are free, but you must first make sacrifices.

Sincerely,

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Even though it doesn't apply as much now as it used to, I found this hilarious.

 

[Legacy]

19? This is for current players right?

 

[thedude9990]

<div class="quote_poster">Carter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">19? This is for current players right?</div>

yea this was the list where kidd was like 40 and everyoens like OMG

 

[MVPBaller]

Vince Carter is the man!

 

[The One & Only]

What? How is Kidd in the late thirties but Carter is 19?

 

[Krstic]

by ranking the players..

 

[Legacy]

Kidd and Carter should be around the same spot. Kidd got screwed he needs way better than a thirty something.

 

[Krstic]

im sick of chris paul being ranked so good now..he isnt that good, and doesent average 9 rebounds like j-kidd

 

[rafy]

<div class="quote_poster">Krstic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">im sick of chris paul being ranked so good now..he isnt that good, and doesent average 9 rebounds like j-kidd</div>

I'm 100% sure you're going to regret that this season.

 

[Krstic]

im 100% sure i dont care...

 

[thedude9990]

<div class="quote_poster">Krstic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">im 100% sure i dont care...</div>


and im 100% ur an idiot, Chris Paul should be that high, because he is that good, he does everything he scores from every where, he passes adn rebounds, AND THIS WAS AS A ROOKIE!

 

[Midnight Green]

<div class="quote_poster">Krstic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">im sick of chris paul being ranked so good now..he isnt that good, and doesent average 9 rebounds like j-kidd</div>

When has Kidd ever averaged nine rebounds? The most he ever averaged was seven. This past season he averaged seven rebounds a game. I large reason why his rebounding numbers are so good are because of his size being 6'5". Paul on the other hand in his rookie season grabbed five rebounds a game despite standing only six feet tall. The kid is only going to get better there is a reason why he was picked to be point guard for team USA and why so many people are high on him.

 

[Krstic]

i was estimating..somewhere around 9

what im trying to say is that is that cp3 doesent have nearly as much experiance or versatility of getting different stats which makes him not as good as j-kidd

im 100% sure that kind of made sense

 

[Midnight Green]

<div class="quote_poster">Krstic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">i was estimating..somewhere around 9

what im trying to say is that is that cp3 doesent have nearly as much experiance or versatility of getting different stats which makes him not as good as j-kidd

im 100% sure that kind of made sense</div>

Actually I disagree with you again. If you look at the statistics and the size differential you will see that Paul is just as versatile as Kidd if not more (taken into account his size). He had two triple doubles this season as a rookie, and averaged around 16-6-6 as a rookie. Imagine what he will do when he gets more experience? This a list based on where these players are right now, not what they have accomplished throughout their entire career. With that said I would take Paul over Kidd any day of the week.

 

[Ma3oxuct]

Chris Paul, certainly has a great future ahead of him, but right now, I do not think that he is ahead of Kidd overall. Kidd is a better defender, better passer, and by far a better leader. Chris Paul is only a better scorer than Kidd. Thier rebounding is roughly equivalent.

This season, I expect Chris Paul to have more assists and points per game. My expectations are based on Kidd's rookie season and his subsequent sophomore season...see the stats for yourselves. Despite how good Chris Paul will be this season, he still won't outdo Kidd's defense or leadership.

 

[Legacy]

<div class="quote_poster">Best Kept Secret Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Actually I disagree with you again. If you look at the statistics and the size differential you will see that Paul is just as versatile as Kidd if not more (taken into account his size). He had two triple doubles this season as a rookie, and averaged around 16-6-6 as a rookie. Imagine what he will do when he gets more experience? This a list based on where these players are right now, not what they have accomplished throughout their entire career. With that said I would take Paul over Kidd any day of the week.</div>

Would you rather have Jason Kidd or Chris Paul assuming that they are both in thier primes?

 

[The One & Only]

<div class="quote_poster">Carter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Would you rather have Jason Kidd or Chris Paul assuming that they are both in thier primes?</div>

Considering we havern't seen Paul in his prime that isn't a fair question.

 

[Legacy]

<div class="quote_poster">Franchise4Ever Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Considering we havern't seen Paul in his prime that isn't a fair question.</div>

True, but do you think that Paul will be better in the future?

 

[Midnight Green]

<div class="quote_poster">Carter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Would you rather have Jason Kidd or Chris Paul assuming that they are both in thier primes?</div>

Like Franchise said we have yet to see Chris Paul even scratch the surface of the best basketball he is capable of playing. I am not sure if he will be better than Kidd in his prime. Anything can happen, he could have a Penny Hardaway injury and become just another role player in the league, or he could become the best point guard in recent history. Only time will tell.

 

[NJNetz]

Paul does have a lot of Kidd in him. His first year numbers are similiar to Kidd's and he does play like him too. He brings points,assists, and rebounds just like Kidd. Will he be better than Kidd? It's possible but at this stage we can't judge him as being better or worse.

 

[The One & Only]

<div class="quote_poster">Kidd Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Paul does have a lot of Kidd in him. </div>
The only thing that I don't see in Paul when in comparison to Kidd, is the defense.

It's a gamble, but I will tell you this; currently, I would take Paul over Kidd. Paul has a lot more to go, which Kidd can't say the same, and is already an elite player in just his first year.

 

[Legacy]

I could see Paul as one of the best point guards of all time once his defense improves. But, we will have to wait to see what he will be like in the future.

 

[AMS_ICE]

Chris Paul is good. But he has still a long way to go to get near the level of Jason Kidd. Growing up, my favorite player was Michael Jordan (still is). Jordan scored at will. And at that time that's how I saw what a great player is. But even Jordan himself added a lot more to his game than scoring. Jason Kidd may not be a scorer like Nash, Arenas, Billups, etc., but Jason Kidd brings a lot more to the table. Kidd's contributions to the game goes well beyond statistics. There's Magic, there's Stockton, and there's Kidd. As for the topic, Carter should be somewhere in 20's.