Vince Carter on his upcoming free agency...

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ya im pretty sure vince had an awsome series against the heat. But the heat are way too much for most of the teams in the east to handle. including the nets! and shaq will be a major factor until he retires.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't watch the Miami/Detroit series so I can't give my opinion on it.</div>
i caught all the games and it really seemed like detroit sucked more than the heat played good. to me it just didnt look like the same pistons that played during the season. chauncey and rip were HORRIBLE. teyshaun was the only real consistant factor in that series.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Answer_AI03 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">i caught all the games and it really seemed like detroit sucked more than the heat played good. to me it just didnt look like the same pistons that played during the season. chauncey and rip were HORRIBLE. teyshaun was the only real consistant factor in that series.</div>

This was true, they were playing more man-on-man than the teamwork that I'm used to seeing with the traditional Brown-Pistons. In any case, this is a New Jersey forum, so sorry about bringing this up.
 
So then we can say that the Nets put up a better fight than the Pistons? Or is that still not the case?


Of course this doesn't matter at all, so no point in answering it.
 
<div class="quote_poster">hustler Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Correct me if im wrong, I rarely catch Net's games. But doesn't VC usually go on fire vs the Heat?</div>
I remember seeing a couple of boxscores and yea I think Carter put up some impressive numbers (50 pt game + other stats) against them during the regular season, but I don't think he did as good against them during the playoffs.
 
Carter may have been dubbed as the next Michael Jordan when he came into the league, but what has he accomplished individually and on a team stand point? In 8 seasons, he has been NBA Rookie of the Year (1999), All NBA Second Team (2001), All NBA Third Teram (2000), Slam Dunk Champ (2000) and NBA All-Rookie Team (1999). 8 seasons! That's not much at all for what some of you might think he is. The Raptors had their best season with Carter was when they went 47-35 in 00-01, losing to Philadelphia in the second round. As amazing as some of you think Carter is, he hasn't done that much.
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From the next MJ, what is Carter now? Just another scorer? Carter's highlight reels doesn't put him up there with Lebron, Kobe or Wade. Sorry, but fact is, Carter can't lead a team, and that people, is in the books! For those who think that a lot of teams want him, here's a question? What are those teams? Aside from Orlando, what team has looked at him? Fact of the matter is, Carter's value isn't much anymore. Carter's name has been rumored to be on the trading block but started and ended with Orlando. These are the FACTS!
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<div class="quote_poster">AMS_ice Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Carter may have been dubbed as the next Michael Jordan when he came into the league, but what has he accomplished individually and on a team stand point? In 8 seasons, he has been NBA Rookie of the Year (1999), All NBA Second Team (2001), All NBA Third Teram (2000), Slam Dunk Champ (2000) and NBA All-Rookie Team (1999). 8 seasons! That's not much at all for what some of you might think he is. The Raptors had their best season with Carter was when they went 47-35 in 00-01, losing to Philadelphia in the second round. As amazing as some of you think Carter is, he hasn't done that much.
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From the next MJ, what is Carter now? Just another scorer? Carter's highlight reels doesn't put him up there with Lebron, Kobe or Wade. Sorry, but fact is, Carter can't lead a team, and that people, is in the books! For those who think that a lot of teams want him, here's a question? What are those teams? Aside from Orlando, what team has looked at him? Fact of the matter is, Carter's value isn't much anymore. Carter's name has been rumored to be on the trading block but started and ended with Orlando. These are the FACTS!
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I never really saw Carter as a leader myself. The facts are though that Orlando might not even be looking into him anymore because he's gonna want a lot of $$$$$$$$. I think the Magic are leaning on Josh Howard now more than Carter or evening looking at trying to get Rashard Lewis. Carter is a solid scorer and a good defender though. Sure he's made the All-Star game(because fans vote for him) but he has had a decent career. I mean you can't say the guy sucks. I don't remember anyone saying he was the next Jordan though. But then again, who is? Is Kobe, D-Wade, LeBron, or T-Mac the next Jordan?? HELL NO!!! There can only be one Jordan and that's Michael Jordan.
 
I bet most of the teams in the nba would go after carter if they knew he was available. he may not be a leader, but is still one of the top echelon players in the nba. as far as free agency goes...its really too hard to say what he might do right now, depends on if money or winning is more important. however, i still think he'll be out of new jersey by then.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Answer_AI03 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I bet most of the teams in the nba would go after carter if they knew he was available. he may not be a leader, but is still one of the top echelon players in the nba. as far as free agency goes...its really too hard to say what he might do right now, depends on if money or winning is more important. however, i still think he'll be out of new jersey by then.</div>

Huh? Aside from Orlando, what teams are you talking about? If there are interested teams on Carter, what better time than now? If that's the case, where are the offers? Not one legitimate offer has been made. Fact is, teams will not gamble on a high maintenance player like Carter.
 
The Magic AREN'T that interested in Carter anymore. When Carter becomes a FA, he is gonna ask for too much especially for his age. The Magic rather have a younger player. Also, Charlotte still is looking at Carter possibly for the future but haven't said anything about it yet.
 
<div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Magic AREN'T that interested in Carter anymore. When Carter becomes a FA, he is gonna ask for too much especially for his age. The Magic rather have a younger player. Also, Charlotte still is looking at Carter possibly for the future but haven't said anything about it yet.</div>

Well, there you go... It just proves my point.
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<div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What are you talking about?</div>

Just proving a point to answer_ai03 about teams not wanting Carter.
 
O well when Carter is asking too much and is gonna do very little or not as well as previous seasons then why should people want him!
 
That doesnt prove anything. You have no idea what Carter is going to do, the same way that i dont. Anything could happen, and Carter could land with alot of different teams. the fact is, we won't know until the season is over. its just my opinion that Carter will want to leave after the season, and also that the nets would be better off trading him. i mean, your all saying why would another team want to overpay an older player who isn't doing as much as he used to. well, why would the nets? orlando might be more interested in howard now, but i bet you anything they will make a strong push to get vince. i know i would if i were them.
 
Honestly, answer me this. Would you want to pay a guy $15 million a year and is gonna be 30, to only give you mediocre stats and not an overall player??

That's all I gotta say.
 
<div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Honestly, answer me this. Would you want to pay a guy $15 million a year and is gonna be 30, to only give you mediocre stats and not an overall player??

That's all I gotta say.</div>

Um....I wouldn't call 25+ ppg "mediocre". He also has good court vision and defense.

But he really isn't needed on the Magic or any other team for that matter. I mean, all teams got their bases covered. Maybe Denver, but that's it.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Franchise4Ever Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Um....I wouldn't call 25+ ppg "mediocre". He also has good court vision and defense.

But he really isn't needed on the Magic or any other team for that matter. I mean, all teams got their bases covered. Maybe Denver, but that's it.</div>

Nowadays people can jack up a bunch of shots and get 25ppg. I mean his defense is good but his age is getting up there and to give him $15yr kinda money is ridiculous. I don't see anybody signing him but New Jersey or Charlotte.
 
<div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nowadays people can jack up a bunch of shots and get 25ppg..</div>
What?
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Name 3.....No, name 1 person.
 
Well, Mike James avg. 20ppg jacking up shots.
 
<div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Mike James avg. 20ppg jacking up shots.</div>

That's different. Toronto was his first season where he played AND started 75+ games. He also got a considerable more amount of minutes than previous seasons as well as him getting more shot attempts.

If he got the same liberty in Minny then I can't see why he can't atleast post 16-18 ppg.
 
You can't say that. Mike James is gonna be a bright spot for that team along with KG and will prob. have a good amount of shooting since he's a good 3Pt shooter.
 
I think vince will be an upper teir gaurd in this league until he retires. Even if his amazing athletisism depreciates over the next couple years, he will still be more athletic than alot of players in the nba. Besides his athletisism, he can play some d, he can pass, and he has a pretty good 3 pt shot. Im not sure he would be worth $15 mil at that stage in his career, but i know he would be worth alot to whatever team he played for. Im just saying if i were him, i would def be out of new jersey, and looking for a title.
 
Right. I'm sure he will do fine but is he worth $15 a yr? I don't think so. The man is gifted and has done wonders since being in the NBA with his patented dunks and highlight reels but if takes a paycut for around $11-12 million then that would be fine.
 
Carter can be an asset to any team, but Carter won't play for a team where he's the second option. He'd rather be the no. 1 guy on a losing team rather than be on a winning team where he's just a back up. I just don't see Carter leading a team to a championship.
 
Yeah, I don't see Carter joining the Spurs to be a 6th man either. The best option for him is to just stay in New Jersey and hope for the best instead of leaving and either going to Orlando(which is still rebuilding), Charlotte(well, c'mon its Charlotte), or any other team like maybe Dallas or San Antonio.
 
Right. New Jersey is the best situation for him and realistically it's the best situation for the Nets as well. Carter's value has gone down. The Nets won't be able to get an equal trade for him. So it's better to stick it out with him and focus at the season at hand. Frankly (no pun intended), the Nets chances for a title run is now, but the clock ticking fast. The top teams in the east are Miami, Detroit and New Jersey. And the Nets are very capable of beating both of them, its going to be tough, but the Nets can do it. With the big 3 healthy, a consistent Krstic and a better bench, the Nets chances are very good.
 

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