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dviss1 said:
Defense. Plain and simple.

People need to look at both sides of the ball when they talk about who's better than who.
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I think Biggie's been pretty good on defense. Especially for a rookie. I don't think Vonleh's got much on him in that area either.
 
dviss1 said:
Defense. Plain and simple.

People need to look at both sides of the ball when they talk about who's better than who.
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But you literally said Swanigan was better.

I have no problem with people being wrong, shit I'm wrong a lot too, but I have a problem when someone acts like they're always right.
 
Scalma said:
But you literally said Swanigan was better.

I have no problem with people being wrong, shit I'm wrong a lot too, but I have a problem when someone acts like they're always right.
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I don't remember saying that at all. Could be wrong tho. But frankly, I couldn't really GAF what you have a problem with. :dunno:
 
If Collins can bulk up, a Center/PF lineup of Nurkic and Collins and Vonleh and Swanigan could be crazy good on both sides of the court in a year.
 
BigGameDamian said:
How are we getting Randle? Your ready to split with CJ?
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Im not sure you know who Julius Randle is... besides that, his value shouldnt be high given LAL NEED to move him to clear the cap space... they prolly offer two max contracts someone
 
Let's say theoretically Olshey likes randle more than Vonleh. What would a trade look like? Davis and a pick? I doubt LA would want salary back.
 
Scalma said:
Let's say theoretically Olshey likes randle more than Vonleh. What would a trade look like? Davis and a pick? I doubt LA would want salary back.
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Why would the Lakers trade Randle to a division rival (Who some might say is the biggest in rival for them in history.) The only way this happens is if we give up CJ.
 
Scalma said:
Let's say theoretically Olshey likes randle more than Vonleh. What would a trade look like? Davis and a pick? I doubt LA would want salary back.
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of course, theres posibility they want to send Randle, but only if they attach Deng to that deal

my point is Olshey should be all over this if deal can be done, god knows players arent willing to come here and when good player becomes available, you dont think too much... hes not stretch 4, but hes better than what we already have and with higher upside too
 
BigGameDamian said:
Why would the Lakers trade Randle to a division rival (Who some might say is the biggest in rival for them in history.) The only way this happens is if we give up CJ.
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FYI, Blazers and Lakers haven't been in the same division since 2004. And nobody with any sense of history would claim that the Blazers are the Lakers' biggest rival. And Randle's value doesn't approach CJ's by any stretch of the imagination.

Your post fails on every level.
 
Mr. Robot said:
of course, theres posibility they want to send Randle, but only if they attach Deng to that deal

my point is Olshey should be all over this if deal can be done, god knows players arent willing to come here and when good player becomes available, you dont think too much... hes not stretch 4, but hes better than what we already have and with higher upside too
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Nobody is taking Deng that's ridiculous. Adding Deng to Randle only makes their return worse. They will buy him out eventually.

Best case scenario for LA is they get a first round pick (or a talented player on their rookie deal) and an expiring contract.
 
first round pick along something is the most likely scenario, but question is, would Olshey be ready to make that move... I mean, Dame wanted team to be improved and I believe adding Randle improves this team (same with Nurk)... of course, Randle alone wont be enough, but in my eyes certainly step closer to having a good starting five

I believe we have assets to make this deal happen
 
Look what the sixers got for Noel. That's probably a good base for Randle. They'd be lucky to get a first for him.
 
Randle has been ballin so far, I dont think LAL are apropriate place for him
I cant vouch for POR either, but that could be win-win situation for both and Im sure hed be happy to come here

bottom line is: they DONT WANT to trade him, they NEED to (if what Woj said is true)
 
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After the Denver game, i would definetly keep vonleh for a cheap contract and trade Davis
 
blue9 said:
Strike 1! (Pacific vs NW)


Strike 2! (Boston much?)


Strike 3! You're outta here!
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Or, given this was a response to BGD, I prolly should have said "Your outta hear!"
 
e_blazer said:
Noah is history if Nurkic plays as expected and earns a big contract. I think if Olshey can figure out a way to trade Meyers for an ending contract, he can work a deal to keep Ed.
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If we trade Meyers though, who would fill his role?
 
I think Vonleh is just getting started on showing us what he has been working on over the summer. My biggest problem with him is that he needs to be reminded to be aggressive way too many times. He definitely fits this team, 1st or 2nd unit. If he can start hitting a few shots along with all the rebounding and solid picks he sets he will be a huge asset and maybe the best PF on this team. If we worked the pick and roll with him like we do with Nurkic he may be a double double machine whether he starts or comes off the bench. I won't go into his defense, it speaks for itself.
 
The only thing holding Noah back is what's going on in his head. And even then, it's only been holding him back on offense - last season I was saying he was already our best overall defender. Good to see that he might be starting to play with some strength and confidence on the offensive end! Last season he got stuffed around the rim way too much for a guy and big and powerful as he is. With his body he could rule the NBA - hopefully he does next season, after we sign him to a sweetheart deal! If he ever comes into his own he could be a mix of Amare/Sheed!
 
I remember writing the day we got Vonleh that he doesn't force it and plays within himself. I watched him a lot at IU and this is kind of what you get with him. He was more efficient at IU and that's why I think he'll eventually develop into a double double guy. He has shooting ability and post skills, he's just not being asked to develop them within the framework of the game. One thing I think Stotts should do is encourage Vonleh to be more aggressive with the second unit to become more confident in executing on his skillset - this also means running plays for him. He has it in him.
 
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