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Natebishop3 said:
As long as it takes. If Dame gets hurt, we're sunk. We can't get any value for him and we have his massive contract eating up our cap space. It's not worth the risk.
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So you would sit him out the whole year? Next year too? Sure those are extremes but any long-term banishment of Dame by the Blazers seems unrealistic to me. It is not going to happen. They would look like idiots.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
So you would sit him out the whole year? Next year too? Sure those are extremes but any long-term banishment of Dame by the Blazers seems unrealistic to me. It is not going to happen. They would look like idiots.
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At some point you accept that he's not worth what we thought/hoped he was. If he's still on the team in a year, Joe has failed.

I'm currently trying to sell my old gas range. I posted it for $250. Didn't get any bites. I lowered the price to $200. Didn't get any bites. I'm going to keep lowering the asking price until it sells because I have a newer range and I don't want this thing sitting in my garage any longer than it has to.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
So you would sit him out the whole year? Next year too? Sure those are extremes but any long-term banishment of Dame by the Blazers seems unrealistic to me. It is not going to happen. They would look like idiots.
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That's not what Cronin wants anyway, despite what the Dame-first or the trade-Dame camps believe.
I think Cronin wants the Trail Blazers to win now with Dame and his additions over the last two seasons and redeem himself.
 
Natebishop3 said:
At some point you accept that he's not worth what we thought/hoped he was. If he's still on the team in a year, Joe has failed.
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So my question is when is that point? Seems to me that you set a deadline for opening camp or the start of the season. If there is no trade then you roll with this 2-deep until the deadline. But you don't tell Dame to stay home.

Dame-Scoot
Sharpe-Ant
Nas-Thybulle
Grant-Walker or Murray
Nurk- Brown

Somehow we need more size at PF
 
Pinwheel1 said:
So my question is when is that point? Seems to me that you set a deadline for opening camp or the start of the season. If there is no trade then you roll with this 2-deep until the deadline. But you don't tell Dame to stay home.

Dame-Scoot
Sharpe-Ant
Nas-Thybulle
Grant-Walker or Murray
Nurk- Brown

Somehow we need more size at PF
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I just don't see any positives from playing Dame.

He could get hurt.
He will prop up our team so that we win more games than we realistically want to win while rebuilding.
He will keep Scoot from playing his natural position.

What is the point of playing Dame?
 
Dame's style of play does not fit this new roster. So playing him could do more harm with no good upside.

On the bench? Not with his attitude. Same for dressed in stadium.

By default, sadly, let him watch the game from his hot tub at home.
 
oldfisherman said:
Dame's style of play does not fit this new roster. So playing him could do more harm with no good upside.

On the bench? Not with his attitude. Same for dressed in stadium.

By default, sadly, let him watch the game from his hot tub at home.
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Hmm, Dame with a bad attitude on the court and in the locker room. Have we ever seen that?
This is all a moot point because I don't expect him to be on the roster on opening night. But for the record.....I think you guys are all nuts if you actually think Joe, Chauncy, or Jody would go for banishing him from the arena for an extended amount of time.
 
WAKE UP! I'm sorry but anyone that says he should start if he's here is crazy. There are 0 benefits and a whole lot of negatives to him playing and starting.
Dame in the starting lineup on opening night would be the absolute worst scenario possible...and the only thing worse is if he died.
Bottom line, aside from all the negative publicity and questions about the teams direction and leadership, if he were to get injured it would be the second biggest mistake this team has ever made. Right behind Jordan/Bowie. He's already burned the bridges with the front office (and any sane fans) and will never play for us again. Accept it and stop dreaming of some kind of rekindling an old, extinguished fire. No sentimental farewell games. No bridging the gap until Scoot is ready. He's done here and it's just a matter of getting the best trade done.
 
kjironman1 said:
My bet is if he has not been traded yet he will have gotten a groin injury or possible hamstring tightness and he will be in street clothes.
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100%. This is the only way he's even near the Moda Center on opening night.
 
Natebishop3 said:
At some point you accept that he's not worth what we thought/hoped he was. If he's still on the team in a year, Joe has failed.

I'm currently trying to sell my old gas range. I posted it for $250. Didn't get any bites. I lowered the price to $200. Didn't get any bites. I'm going to keep lowering the asking price until it sells because I have a newer range and I don't want this thing sitting in my garage any longer than it has to.
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Raise the price and let someone talk you down a bit. It gives people a sense of accomplishment for not paying what you wanted and they'll buy it out of pride.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Hmm, Dame with a bad attitude on the court and in the locker room. Have we ever seen that?
This is all a moot point because I don't expect him to be on the roster on opening night. But for the record.....I think you guys are all nuts if you actually think Joe, Chauncy, or Jody would go for banishing him from the arena for an extended amount of time.
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I freely admit you could be right, and I could be wrong. But....

My gut says, it takes a lot to get Dame upset. And he has reached the end of his patience. If forced to play here, nothing he has done or said indicates he will play without his bad attitude and hard feelings.
 
cheesehoff said:
WAKE UP! I'm sorry but anyone that says he should start if he's here is crazy. There are 0 benefits and a whole lot of negatives to him playing and starting.
Dame in the starting lineup on opening night would be the absolute worst scenario possible...and the only thing worse is if he died.
Bottom line, aside from all the negative publicity and questions about the teams direction and leadership, if he were to get injured it would be the second biggest mistake this team has ever made. Right behind Jordan/Bowie. He's already burned the bridges with the front office (and any sane fans) and will never play for us again. Accept it and stop dreaming of some kind of rekindling an old, extinguished fire. No sentimental farewell games. No bridging the gap until Scoot is ready. He's done here and it's just a matter of getting the best trade done.
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Is anyone in this thread saying they want "some kind of rekindling of an old, extinguished fire"?
I for one said I don't want to see him back. My point is you are all nuts if you think Dame would be banished from the arena for an extended period if no deal was on the table.

As for Jordan/Bowie ....who do you think we are actually going to get for Dame in a trade that could possibly warrant that type of comparison?
 
I’m glad at least 15 of us are thinking rationally
 
Natebishop3 said:
At some point you accept that he's not worth what we thought/hoped he was. If he's still on the team in a year, Joe has failed.

I'm currently trying to sell my old gas range. I posted it for $250. Didn't get any bites. I lowered the price to $200. Didn't get any bites. I'm going to keep lowering the asking price until it sells because I have a newer range and I don't want this thing sitting in my garage any longer than it has to.
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doing the same thing with my boat. Started at 8k thinking id tKe 7k( very comparable to other used boats for sale)Its now listed at 4k now that summer is about over and still no serious offers. Just tire/bow kickers
. I just want it gone at this point before i have to pay to winterize it again.

wanna buy a boat? Great deal!!!
 
cheesehoff said:
Raise the price and let someone talk you down a bit. It gives people a sense of accomplishment for not paying what you wanted and they'll buy it out of pride.
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It has been on the market for three weeks. I want it gone. Just not getting any interest.
 
BlazerBender said:
doing the same thing with my boat. Started at 8k thinking id tKe 7k( very comparable to other used boats for sale)Its now listed at 4k now that summer is about over and still no serious offers. Just tire/bow kickers
. I just want it gone at this point before i have to pay to winterize it again.

wanna buy a boat? Great deal!!!
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Sadly I have no place to put one. Maybe one day.
 
inconceivable said:
Not playing Dame signals the Blazers NEED to trade Dame.

You lose leverage by not playing a healthy Dame.
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Nobody is going to fall for that charade.

Everyone knows we are rebuilding. Everyone knows we just drafted a stud point guard. Everyone knows that Dame requested a trade. Who are we gonna fool by playing him?
 
PDXFonz said:
Gee gosh urrrrrrrrr, I don’t know… I think he’s purdy good at basketball.

What is the benefit of Dame staying home?
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A couple valid reasons I could think of are to not risk Dame getting injured. To not stunt Scoots growth. To not create potential synergy issues that could affect the mindset of the rest of the players like Grant.

Sorry. that was three. :)
 
BlazerBender said:
doing the same thing with my boat. Started at 8k thinking id tKe 7k( very comparable to other used boats for sale)Its now listed at 4k now that summer is about over and still no serious offers. Just tire/bow kickers
. I just want it gone at this point before i have to pay to winterize it again.

wanna buy a boat? Great deal!!!
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I'll trade ya this box for it. You never know. There could be a boat in the box!
GetMedia
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Is anyone in this thread saying they want "some kind of rekindling of an old, extinguished fire"?

As for Jordan/Bowie ....who do you think we are actually going to get for Dame in a trade that could possibly warrant that type of comparison?
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#1 I guess I was metaphorically speaking. Obviously nobody said that, but having Dame play/start the season has absolutely no plusses, all negatives. Those are the people letting their emotions cloud their judgement.
#2 I'm not implying that the trade they make for Dame will be on the level of the Jordan/Bowie draft. I'm saying that if they play him and he gets hurt and it affects the trade return, it will be considered a huge mistake.
The only reason to play him at the beginning of the year is to maybe win a couple more games. Which won't affect their playoff chances, but a couple extra wins could affect their draft status quite a bit.
They have no plans to make the playoffs next year. Dame and Cronin have been lobbing (vailed) insults back and forth through the media. Dame has requested a trade. The new face of the franchise plays the same position as Dame. An injury to Dame in the time he has left in Portland would be catastrophic. Which of those circumstances hints at Dame being the starting point guard to start the year?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Of course, if they are close to trading him then you sit him. But that is a little bit different from what you said in the OP. All you said was "Where do you want Dame on opening night if he is still on the roster?" How long do you guys plan on telling him to sit at home? Do you think that if he is not traded by opening night he will be shortly afterwards? What happens if that does not happen? Are you going to tell him to sit at home until the trade deadline? Sure that will happen.
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I'd say Dame should stay home until he is willing to fully commit to the Blazers for the entire rest of the season. If he gets to that point then the team can work him into the starting lineup for the rest of the season.

If the team gets to December when most players in the league trade restrictions end and Dame's still here that would be the time to start those discussions. If the team and Dame feel a trade might happen soon then keep him at home. If not they could discuss bringing him back to the rotation.

If Dame commits to thr whole season at opening night yes I'm fine with starting him. I'd assume he won't be ready for that yet as it is probably way too soon from his trade request.
 
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