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PDXFonz said:
Can’t believe we might F up the best thing to happen to this team in my lifetime because the FO doesn’t understand the phrase “addition by subtraction”.

Get Ant out of here
Get Nurk out of here

Play Scoot and Dame together

If you can’t land Turner with Nurk and Ant then you’re not actually trying to do so. Yeah, I realize if you read what I post then I sound like I’m beating a broken drum…

Scoot
Dame
Sharpe
Grant
Turner

Forget the 5 seed @Natebishop3 that team should see HCA if all this talk of Scoot being an easy replacement has any credence.
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I love the future but Scoot and Sharpe won't be ready to win games for many years. They'd be some of the worst starters in the league next year for a team trying to make the playoffs.

It's fine if the Blazers are rebuilding, but it's a joke to think they are ready to win now.

The rotation you list would be far worse than what the Blazers started with the last two years, both of which resulted in trips to the lottery.

HCA? Not a chance. Even making the playin would be unlikely.

The hype for Scoot and excitement is for his career over the next 15 years, not wins his first rookie season.
 
kjironman1 said:
Nobody thinks contender YET. Add a solid player with some length and they compete and get some experience.
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Who is this player and where do we get him from? We have been dealing with this hypothetical “what if we get this” talk for two years since Dame first voiced his displeasure. We aren’t any better today than we were two years ago. We have a brighter future but this team is still a far cry from even top 8 in the west.
 
PDXFonz said:
Can’t believe we might F up the best thing to happen to this team in my lifetime because the FO doesn’t understand the phrase “addition by subtraction”.

Get Ant out of here
Get Nurk out of here

Play Scoot and Dame together

If you can’t land Turner with Nurk and Ant then you’re not actually trying to do so. Yeah, I realize if you read what I post then I sound like I’m beating a broken drum…

Scoot
Dame
Sharpe
Grant
Turner

Forget the 5 seed @Natebishop3 that team should see HCA if all this talk of Scoot being an easy replacement has any credence.
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addition by subtraction in Portland is easy.
adding another top 5 rookie next summer,
by subtracting the ability to win games.
 
Mediocre Man said:
That team is not close to a contender
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So you think by having Scoot on the team and not Dame, we are closer to being a contender? We are not going to get a proven super star for Dame and Scoot & Shae haven't proven anything yet.
If Dame doesn't think this team is built to contend, Why should I think it is? Plus we need to keep playoff bound or we will end up losing Shae & Scoot after their rookie contracts. They won't stick around as long as Dame has, and it's because Dame got a taste of playoff ball.
 
Natebishop3 said:
In a world where restricted free agents don't exist....
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All they need is to express they want out, or we give them a reason to stay on top of the money. They will get their bag.
All the media and players over the last several years publicly said Dame should leave, plus guys like Scoot has a whole marketing team behind him with parents and agents having a say.
 
Hoopguru said:
All they need is to express they want out, or we give them a reason to stay on top of the money. They will get their bag.
All the media and players over the last several years publicly said Dame should leave, plus guys like Scoot has a whole marketing team behind him with parents and agents having a say.
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Dame was at least two years into his second contract when the calls for him to demand a trade started. All of the all stars that people think of as mercenaries (PG13, Kawhi, LeBron, KD) played at least seven seasons with the team that drafted them. So, I really doubt that we need to worry about losing Shae or Scoot for the next five years at least. I also think if you're trying to plan for our roster construction more than five years into the future, you're kind of kidding yourself.
 
blazerkor said:
Dame was at least two years into his second contract when the calls for him to demand a trade started. All of the all stars that people think of as mercenaries (PG13, Kawhi, LeBron, KD) played at least seven seasons with the team that drafted them. So, I really doubt that we need to worry about losing Shae or Scoot for the next five years at least. I also think if you're trying to plan for our roster construction more than five years into the future, you're kind of kidding yourself.
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Yeah we don't need to worry about adding starters or key bench players the next few years, doesn't really matter if the Blazers win or not right now.

But we do need to add talent and assets (draft picks). Those need to be something here in 5 years to then build a winner around Scoot Sharpe Ant etc.

That's why it's important to get this Dame trade right and have some assets many years from now.

Olshey didn't do that when Aldridge left or the next 5 years after. That's what eventually lead to this Lillard situation today. The way to prevent that is to build assets and talent so eventually Scoot/Sharpe/Ant will have a chance to be part of a winner.

The Blazers need to have a long term focus, they don't need to push all their chips in to win now, that would actually be counterproductive.
 
Are people confusing being mad at dame the player and dame the horrible optics man?

Because the optics man fucking sucks.
 
Hoopguru said:
So you think by having Scoot on the team and not Dame, we are closer to being a contender? We are not going to get a proven super star for Dame and Scoot & Shae haven't proven anything yet.
If Dame doesn't think this team is built to contend, Why should I think it is? Plus we need to keep playoff bound or we will end up losing Shae & Scoot after their rookie contracts. They won't stick around as long as Dame has, and it's because Dame got a taste of playoff ball.
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I do not think Scoot makes us a contender, but I’m willing to see if he tries to play defense and get others involved.
 
blazerkor said:
Dame was at least two years into his second contract when the calls for him to demand a trade started. All of the all stars that people think of as mercenaries (PG13, Kawhi, LeBron, KD) played at least seven seasons with the team that drafted them. So, I really doubt that we need to worry about losing Shae or Scoot for the next five years at least. I also think if you're trying to plan for our roster construction more than five years into the future, you're kind of kidding yourself.
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5 years is nothing in the NBA....The machine is more powerful then ever now and small market teams must be aggressive in finding ways to keep players they develop. Consistent winning and playoffs are just a couple, along with the bag.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I do not think Scoot makes us a contender, but I’m willing to see if he tries to play defense and get others involved.
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Lillard was 10th in the league last year in assists.

He was also 7th in efficiency.

His 3rd in scoring means he was looking to get the right person their shot (himself) then anyone else on the team.
 
It's obvious to me that Dame Lillard lost any confidence he had in the organization, right or wrong. They must do more than just go young through tanking to convince new star players they want to be here. Just my opinion.
 
Hoopguru said:
It's obvious to me that Dame Lillard lost any confidence he had in the organization, right or wrong. They must do more than just go young through tanking to convince new star players they want to be here. Just my opinion.
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I agree, we need to sign good young free agents, we need to sign experienced vet min guys for the bench with high character, most of all we need to trade Dame and get picks back both to use to build through the draft and to use in trades to pick up good young players that might be redundant on their teams or fallen out of favor for a reason we think we can remedy. Hopefully we also get a good player or two back for Dame. Besides Dame all of this needs to be done over the next couple of seasons.

The time for urgency past and we lost Dame now we need to patiently rebuild around our two young guards but obviously not Olshey patiently over the next decade. By 2025-26 we need to have a roster that is more promising and successful than what OKC had this past season.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Okay so Fentress kills kittens and refuses to help little old ladies across the street, but what is inaccurate about his post?
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I didn't read it BECAUSE I BLOCKED IT WITH MY SCROLL!

Oh, and Aaron Fentress is synonymous with inaccuracy based on my emotional state.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Assists do not necessarily mean involved
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Oh C’mon. Dame did an excellent job of playing Dame & the dwarves bball. He facilitated the dwarves getting points. At least we had some dwarfs that could score.

Unfortunately, because they were dwarfs, they were often outsized and tended to play defense with the same intensity as their leader. He set the example and tone and they followed.
 
kjironman1 said:
Blazers need another solid 3 & D player.
Preferably one that is 6-9 or taller.
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Why do the Blazers need one?

Without one they will be a young team many pieces away from contending. Add a solid 3 & D player and they are a young team many pieces away from contending.
 
Hoopguru said:
It's obvious to me that Dame Lillard lost any confidence he had in the organization, right or wrong. They must do more than just go young through tanking to convince new star players they want to be here. Just my opinion.
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Just my opinion, I disagree. The Blazers need to add talent and assets. They don't need to worry about "convince new star players" of anything. If they Blazers have assets to build a contender and some good young talented stars they will be just fine to take that next step to contend. Without talent or assets it doesn't matter what the team does to "convince new star players" of anything.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Okay so Fentress kills kittens and refuses to help little old ladies across the street, but what is inaccurate about his post?
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Its not that Dame has the right to request a trade to a team more ready to win. Yes he can do that. If Dame just requested a trade and said he wanted a winner then I and many others would support him. But thats not what he nor his representatives did.

Its the one team on the list and his agent publicly threatening holdouts that is the issue. It's demanding a team in Miami that has few assets and no good young players. It's Dame's comments of "I always said I was loyal to myself not Portland" that is disingenuous and looks very bad.

Blazer fans are completely justified to feel betrayed by Dame for these actions. Dame is burning up his Blazers legacy and a decade+ of goodwill. That is his decision, and fans are right to feel he alone betrayed them.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Yeah we don't need to worry about adding starters or key bench players the next few years, doesn't really matter if the Blazers win or not right now.
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To who? To you?
To me, I find your bolded thought......a head shaker. Do ticket sales, season tickets, box to coorporate, and gear to fans matter?
 
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