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I hope it helps them. I have serious doubts that it will.
Probably everyone here agrees with that first sentence. It gets sticky because a few of us actually have thought about what happens next, because none of our leaders seem to have done that.
 
Probably everyone here agrees with that first sentence. It gets sticky because a few of us actually have thought about what happens next, because none of our leaders seem to have done that.
Oh, I would bet there is a succession plan. The younger Iranian generation doesn't endorse theocracy, they want peace and a chance to prosper.
 
Trump usually announces this stuff. His silence is interesting

Granted I don’t check truth social so he may not be “silent” but I haven’t seen anything about the US confirming the death
 
Oh, I would bet there is a succession plan. The younger Iranian generation doesn't endorse theocracy, they want peace and a chance to prosper.
Well, as long as the younger Iranian generation wants something and I guess no one else in Iran gets a say. Sounds like a winner.

What's the basis of your optimism that there's a succession plan?
 
Pretty believable when 85% of deaths in Gaza were civilians.

Israel loves to murder
Did you know that Iran killed 32000 civilians in two weeks? Are they murder lovers too? They were able to kill them so much faster than Israel could kill Gazans..(Gaza has around 70k people killed in over two years).
But sure.. you do you and keep hating.
Mods - I am sorry for my tone here but people need to stop this and start getting in check with hatred spew around..
 
Did you know that Iran killed 32000 civilians in two weeks? Are they murder lovers too? They were able to kill them so much faster than Israel could kill Gazans..(Gaza has around 70k people killed in over two years).
But sure.. you do you and keep hating.
Mods - I am sorry for my tone here but people need to stop this and start getting in check with hatred spew around..
70k dead with 85% of those being civilians

85% is probably being generous
 
I certainly don't want to be personally judged by the fact that my govt is blowing up Latin American fishing boats like whack a mole or kidnapping a president and his wife from their bedroom while stealing their oil. Nah, wouldn't want to ride into anything thinking we're the good guys these days. It's not uncommon to be embarrassed by your govt yet love your country and neighbors. I think we should avoid the Hatfield and McCoy wars here on our little basketball site and lead by example. My two cents.
 
70k dead with 85% of those being civilians

85% is probably being generous
And yet you did not answer about Iran situation. Why?

Lets take the 83-85% civilian figure at face value - I'm not disputing it.

But here's where I need you to be honest with yourself.

Hamas on October 7th didn't accidentally kill civilians. They went door to door executing families, took elderly hostages, burned people alive. 100% intentional, 100% civilian targeting - that was the entire point. Were you outraged?

Hezbollah fired thousands of rockets indiscriminately into Israeli cities for years. Rockets don't have precision guidance - you fire them at cities because you WANT to kill civilians. Any outrage from you?

Iran just killed tens of thousands of civilians in weeks - a faster rate than anything you're citing about Gaza. Still waiting for you to call them murder lovers.

So what's the actual principle here? Because it's clearly not 'civilian deaths are wrong.' You're applying that standard to exactly one country while giving everyone attacking it a free pass.

That's not a moral position. That's just hatred with extra steps.
 
Israel has killed the leader of Iran with bombs. Just announced. Ayatolla Ali Khomenei is dead
Trump also announces heavy strategic bombing will continue until objectives are achieved, which could be for an extended period.
 
And yet you did not answer about Iran situation. Why?

Lets take the 83-85% civilian figure at face value - I'm not disputing it.

But here's where I need you to be honest with yourself.

Hamas on October 7th didn't accidentally kill civilians. They went door to door executing families, took elderly hostages, burned people alive. 100% intentional, 100% civilian targeting - that was the entire point. Were you outraged?

Hezbollah fired thousands of rockets indiscriminately into Israeli cities for years. Rockets don't have precision guidance - you fire them at cities because you WANT to kill civilians. Any outrage from you?

Iran just killed tens of thousands of civilians in weeks - a faster rate than anything you're citing about Gaza. Still waiting for you to call them murder lovers.

So what's the actual principle here? Because it's clearly not 'civilian deaths are wrong.' You're applying that standard to exactly one country while giving everyone attacking it a free pass.

That's not a moral position. That's just hatred with extra steps.
Iran loves to murder innocent civilians too. Iran killing thousands of protesting civilians, hanging women who don’t wear scarfs is horrific.

You won’t find a post of mine where I support anything Iran, hezbollah, hamas, or Israel has done. They’re all terrorists if you ask me
 
Why did you do that? Inviting all haters to gang up on me like that when we are not even in a Gaza/Palestine thread? I am having hard time replying about Iran now I need to fend people wanting to level tel aviv and call Israel murder lovers. Thanks a lot sly :)

Sorry.
 
Well, as long as the younger Iranian generation wants something and I guess no one else in Iran gets a say. Sounds like a winner.

What's the basis of your optimism that there's a succession plan?
From what I understand from friends 90% of the people want free elections after a interim government.The Iranian people can now stand a chance to decide for themselves what kind a secular gov they want. They have oil and a region that ripe for new business relationships. As of today there is a great chance for peace in the mid east.
 
Imam hoping for a women new leader as Iranian women are deserving. They were the ones that sacrificed so much.
 
From what I understand from friends 90% of the people want free elections after a interim government.The Iranian people can now stand a chance to decide for themselves what kind a secular gov they want. They have oil and a region that ripe for new business relationships. As of today there is a great chance for peace in the mid east.
I asked why you were confident there was a succession plan. You're responding with an anecdote about the impressions of friends you know want, but that's not a succession plan, it's a dream.

I can't say this without coming off as blunt.

Wanting something is great, but it still needs to be organized. Even voting has to be organized. Interim governments don't just materialize out of thin air. They have to be organized. And maybe they have elections the young reformists won't get everything they want. Maybe they'll get very little of what they want.

They need to form a government. They need a constitution. What if they wind up with so many parties that some kind of theocracy ends up with the majority? What if the Taliban from Afghanistan comes over the eastern border and imposes rule in some areas?

I just think what you are hoping for, while noble, isn't going to happen without stability, and the stability isn't going to just sprout organically, and if U.S. troops are going to try to keep the peace, that's never led to good things.

Also, there has not been peace in that part of the world since ... well, actually ever, now that I think about it. Even without and Islamic republic in Iran, you still have Muslims and Jews, Palestinians and Israelis, Sunnis and Shiites. You have to be naive to think the enmity is going away just because you removed one of the pieces. All that does is remove a buffer between two of the players and open a position for someone else to step it.
 
Trump just posted on his Twitter Lite the completely bogus claim, with link to unhinged conspiracy web site, that Iran tried to interfere in 2020 and 2024 elections to "stop Trump" so now they face war with United States.
 
An "
Iran Freedom Congress" (IFC) is convening in London on March 28–29, 2026, aimed at uniting diverse Iranian opposition forces to foster a democratic, pluralistic post-Islamic Republic Iran. Following a preparatory working group meeting on Feb 23–24, this initiative seeks to establish an organized alternative to the current regime, focusing on human rights and transition planning.
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Key details regarding the Iran Freedom Congress in London:
  • Purpose: The congress is designed to create a broad-based, inclusive assembly of Iranian political, ethnic, and civil society actors, functioning as a platform for coordination rather than a single political party.
  • Context: It comes amidst growing concerns over the stability of the current Iranian regime and the need for a unified opposition, with preparatory meetings held in late February 2026.
  • Goals: The IFC aims to establish a democratic and secular order, focusing on principles such as territorial integrity, power-sharing, and rejecting revenge, with plans to expand participation significantly.
  • Structure: It is intended as a collaborative effort involving various figures across the political spectrum to prevent power vacuums or internal conflict.
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This effort is distinct from previous, separate protests held by other groups in London, such as those supporting the People's Mojahedin Organization of
 

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