Exclusive War with Iran starting this week? (3 Viewers)

[riverman]

I won't quibble with you on that, but the fact that Rubio admitted Israel dragged us in tells me Trump did not want this and did not take the lead.

Trump has bragged about bombing Iran since they killed their protestors, problem was he was also busy defending our ICE from killing protestors at the same time as that genocide. Choices? He absolutely got a chubby from having his buddy shoot up the boogey man. He's got a taste for it now after Venezuela and Iran. He's now bragging about Cuba being next. Don't fool yourself, Trump knows this takes over the media from the Epstein files and it feeds his sense of power.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Why would you need to compromise someone if they're already committed to your ideology? They have blackmail on him because he wasn't a Zionist. That's my read on it.

I don't think so. His son in law is heavily involved in all this and has plenty of pull.

How are you so Sure Harris wasn't blackmailed too?

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Trump has bragged about bombing Iran since they killed their protestors, problem was he was also busy defending our ICE from killing protestors at the same time as that genocide. Choices? He absolutely got a chubby from having his buddy shoot up the boogey man. He's got a taste for it now after Venezuela and Iran. He's now bragging about Cuba being next. Don't fool yourself, Trump knows this takes over the media from the Epstein files and it feeds his sense of power.

It's a reasonable theory, but he's already looking for an off-ramp. I think he likes to talk macho but I really don't think he wants this war, especially after suggesting Obama was going to do the same. And I keep coming back to Rubio admitting Israel pulled us in.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I don't think so. His son in law is heavily involved in all this and has plenty of pull.

How are you so Sure Harris wasn't blackmailed too?

I kind of also think Harris isn't ideologically a Zio, her husband is though, and she would have said whatever to get elected which is why she never mentioned a ceasefire.

The autopsy from the Democratic party admitted that they lost votes because of Gaza, and that's why they are trying to hide it even still.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I kind of also think Harris isn't ideologically a Zio, her husband is though, and she would have said whatever to get elected which is why she never mentioned a ceasefire.

The autopsy from the Democratic party admitted that they lost votes because of Gaza, and that's why they are trying to hide it even still.

Almost everything Harris said would happen has happened. If we are offered up a shit sandwich and douche, i'm gonna take the lesser of both evils which is obviously not what we have right now.

We can all stand on our principles and say we won't vote, but M a g a is for sure going to vote and win if we keep taking that attitude.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Kash Patel Fired Entire Team of Iran Experts Right Before Trump’s War

Kash Patel Fired Entire Team of Iran Experts Right Before Trump’s War

They were let go during a purge of people who investigated Donald Trump for allegedly mishandling classified documents.

newrepublic.com

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Almost everything Harris said would happen has happened. If we are offered up a shit sandwich and douche, i'm gonna take the lesser of both evils which is obviously not what we have right now.

We can all stand on our principles and say we won't vote, but M a g a is for sure going to vote and win if we keep taking that attitude.

This is why we have two shit sandwiches though. Because they know people like you will just take the lesser of two evils bullshit. They don't have to up their game. That's the entirety of the problem.

The silver lining with Trump, is that the whole country is moving hard left, which is what I want.

 

[Phatguysrule]

You're living in a fairytale. How do you want to "fix" leaders from getting blackmailed?

We just got dragged into war. A superpower. Diplomacy with Israel is dead. Wake the fuck up.

How about we set more limits on what our leaders do and gifts they accept from foreign powers or corporations?

How about we pay them enough that they don't feel the need to accept additional compensation?

That alone would have prevented a lot of the opportunities for blackmail.

There's a lot we can do to avoid these situations.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Anti-Semantic!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Phatguysrule]

Not gonna work. You're talking to someone who is literally Semitic. Lol

The biggest crimes in America are directly tied to Israel.

Nice try though.

The biggest crimes in America are directly tied to Israel because of weaknesses in the American system.

All could be avoided by limiting the ability of other countries and corporations to influence our politicians.

We clean up our own house and most of these problems never exist.

Nearly all of these problems come from allowing our politicians to be underpaid and accept compensation from sources other than the United States government.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

This is why we have two shit sandwiches though. Because they know people like you will just take the lesser of two evils bullshit. They don't have to up their game. That's the entirety of the problem.

The silver lining with Trump, is that the whole country is moving hard left, which is what I want.

I don't want to accept the lesser than two evils bullshit. I just know that its better than the destruction we currently have going on.

Whats more harmful is people running around saying hey guys, whats happening now is because of both sides. Or people running around saying they won't vote for this candidate and are fine with this administration having a third term as long as the dem doesnt get it because they disagree with them on one thing.

We are not going to like everything a candidate brings. But the alternative can always be a million times worse.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I don't want to accept the lesser than two evils bullshit. I just know that its better than the destruction we currently have going on.

Whats more harmful is people running around saying hey guys, whats happening now is because of both sides. Or people running around saying they won't vote for this candidate and are fine with this administration having a third term as long as the dem doesnt get it because they disagree with them on one thing.

We are not going to like everything a candidate brings. But the alternative can always be a million times worse.

I'm not mad at your rationale. I get it. But me personally, I'm not giving my vote unless they earn it. Things were not sustainable under Biden either. And I wouldn't blame the voters for Trump's rise. They only voted for someone who was the least establishment candidate.

At this point I'm a single issue voter. If you're not running on getting the Zio money out of politics, it means no improvement on healthcare, education, housing, and military industrial complex. Voting for corporate Democrat doesn't change any of that until we fix the root problem.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I'm not mad at your rationale. I get it. But me personally, I'm not giving my vote unless they earn it. Things were not sustainable under Biden either. And I wouldn't blame the voters for Trump's rise. They only voted for someone who was the least establishment candidate.

At this point I'm a single issue voter. If you're not running on getting the Zio money out of politics, it means no improvement on healthcare, education, housing, and military industrial complex. Voting for corporate Democrat doesn't change any of that until we fix the root problem.

The alternative is our trans neighbors getting treated like shit, five years olds being used as bait to get people out of their house to deport them, innocent people getting taken out by and taking away funding from children's cancer research and programs for kids with disabilities.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Sheldon Shape]

The alternative is our trans neighbors getting treated like shit, five years olds being used as bait to get people out of their house to deport them, innocent people getting taken out by and taking away funding from children's cancer research and programs for kids with disabilities.

Brother, don't get caught up in the culture wars. Both parties elevating the trans issue - 1% of the population or so - to be 70% of our discourse is an absolute distraction that both parties use while giving absolutely nothing to people. Trans people like everyone, deserve the same dignity. But which bathroom someone uses is perhaps the last thing I'm thinking about.

And yes, everyone gets hurt. But guess what? People also get hurt under a democratic administration as well. Neither are good options, though I agree that the Democrats are a bit better.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Brother, don't get caught up in the culture wars. Both parties elevating the trans issue - 1% of the population or so - to be 70% of our discourse is an absolute distraction that both parties use while giving absolutely nothing to people. Trans people like everyone, deserve the same dignity. But which bathroom someone uses is perhaps the last thing I'm thinking about.

And yes, everyone gets hurt. But guess what? People also get hurt under a democratic administration as well. Neither are good options, though I agree that the Democrats are a bit better.

Ask @Everything Beagle if their rights are getting caught up in culture wars.

Trans people do deserve dignity. Which is why i'm saying even if I dislike something a dem candidate is saying, I know how much worse it can be (like now).

I'd love to have a Bernie. But i'd take almost anything over what we have now.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

M a g a has no real beliefs. They lost their minds over the Afghanistan evacuation. But with this they are like whatever. They straight up eat up anything they are told.

 

[2Fluffy4U]

This article is a textbook example of propaganda disguised as science — presenting unverified statistics and fringe hypotheses as established fact, with no traceable citations to support the central claims.

The most prominent figure cited — that 97.5% of Jewish Israelis have no genetic connection to the ancient Hebrews — has no verifiable source. More critically, Dr. Eran Elhaik, the very researcher whose work this article invokes, explicitly told AAP FactCheck that this claim is false and does not reflect his findings. His study did not examine Jews living in Israel at all, and was limited to Ashkenazi Jews — a group that, per a 2018 demographic paper, represents approximately 32% of Israel's Jewish population.

This is how misinformation operates: a statistic with no origin gets repeated often enough that it acquires the appearance of legitimacy. The absence of citations in the article is not an oversight — it is a feature. Claims that cannot be sourced cannot be fact-checked, and that is precisely the point.

Readers who engage critically with the genetics literature will find that the mainstream scientific consensus — across multiple large-scale genome-wide studies — does not support the Khazarian Hypothesis as presented here. It remains a minority view, disputed on methodological grounds by the majority of population geneticists in the field.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

M a g a has no real beliefs. They lost their minds over the Afghanistan evacuation. But with this they are like whatever. They straight up eat up anything they are told.

20-25% approval is low. Have faith. Every president has a fan club/cult attached to it.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Ask @Everything Beagle if their rights are getting caught up in culture wars.

Trans people do deserve dignity. Which is why i'm saying even if I dislike something a dem candidate is saying, I know how much worse it can be (like now).

I'd love to have a Bernie. But i'd take almost anything over what we have now.

I think the rhetoric has changed more than anything. I haven't seen anything super consequential in terms of policy change. Can't join the military? That's a win for the trans community.

They'd murder Bernie before he ever took the podium so I don't see that as a real option anyways.

Until you get the money and Israel out of politics, nothing will fundamentally change.

Democrats still start and sustain wars. Only difference is they paint a rainbow on the plane that drops the bombs.

 

[2Fluffy4U]

The term 'Nakba' (meaning 'catastrophe') describes the displacement of Palestinians during the 1948 war — but the narrative around it consistently omits the context that created it.

The war did not begin with Jewish aggression. It began the day after Israel declared independence, when five Arab states — Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon — launched a coordinated military invasion with the stated goal of preventing a Jewish state from existing. The Arab League's own Secretary-General, Azzam Pasha, made the intent explicit at the time.

The displacement of Palestinians was a consequence of a war that Arab states chose to initiate and lost. The Jewish population of the region faced its own forced displacement during this period — approximately 850,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries in the years surrounding 1948, a population transfer that receives almost no equivalent commemoration.

Acknowledging Palestinian suffering is legitimate. But a narrative of victimhood that erases the war that caused it, who started it, and what its stated objectives were, is not history — it is selective memory elevated to political identity.

Fact-check any of this. It holds up.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I'm not mad at your rationale. I get it. But me personally, I'm not giving my vote unless they earn it. Things were not sustainable under Biden either. And I wouldn't blame the voters for Trump's rise. They only voted for someone who was the least establishment candidate.

At this point I'm a single issue voter. If you're not running on getting the Zio money out of politics, it means no improvement on healthcare, education, housing, and military industrial complex. Voting for corporate Democrat doesn't change any of that until we fix the root problem.

I just don't understand why it has to be so targeted. You're not getting the Zio money out of politics unless you're getting all money out of politics.

I don't blame people for voting for Trump the first time. Voting for Trump the second time was absolute insanity.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Is this blackmail too?

 

[Phatguysrule]

I don't want to accept the lesser than two evils bullshit. I just know that its better than the destruction we currently have going on.

Whats more harmful is people running around saying hey guys, whats happening now is because of both sides. Or people running around saying they won't vote for this candidate and are fine with this administration having a third term as long as the dem doesnt get it because they disagree with them on one thing.

We are not going to like everything a candidate brings. But the alternative can always be a million times worse.

I think a Democrat could absolutely be populist and on the side of helping virtually every middle class and poor person.

I think the culture war stuff comes down to supporting broader policies that benefit everyone. Medicare For All can give support to everyone (as long as it's approved by the doctor) and that would also get the vast majority of trans pretty much everything they really want (governmentally).

Same with abortion. As long as it's approved by a doctor it should be supported and covered.

As well as GLP1s. You want to cut addiction in the US? Get as many addicts that medication as you can.

You can have border security while also preventing dangerous people from entering the country. Just make immigration policy that actually works. Then nobody will be trying to come across the border unless they are actually criminals.

Then have eye in the sky drones monitor the border and police can pick up anybody you see. Humanely.

Get money out of politics. No outside compensatory influences. At all. Publicly funded elections.

Democrats can actually do this. I don't think Republicans can.

Democrats need to drop the culture wars. They need to just focus on policy that is good for the middle class and poor.

And I'm not a Democrat. I didn't vote for Obama.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Is this blackmail too?

Why would he admit that he's not in control? This contradicts Rubio's claim. Rubio is more honest than Trump.