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2Fluffy4U said:
Do I need to Google/Claude any Propaganda you spew here for people to know your comments are the most hatful agenda driven lies, distortion and false info?
@Phatguysrule why do you align with this trolling?

This claim appears to be false or heavily distorted. Here's what the evidence actually shows:


What's actually happening (as of early March 2026):


The Israel-US war against Iran began around February 28, 2026. Several things involving UK, France, and Turkey are real, but the framing in your claim is inverted:


  • Iran launched attacks hitting a British base in Cyprus, and struck airports and hotels where British citizens were staying — prompting PM Starmer to change his position and allow the US to use British airbases. Time
  • NATO defenses intercepted a ballistic missile launched by Iran heading toward Turkish airspace — Iran's first apparent attempt to target a NATO member since the war began. The missile was detected crossing Iraqi and Syrian airspace before being neutralized. CBS News

Where the "false flag" narrative comes from:


The false flag accusations are being made by Iran, not credible British media:


  • Iran accused Israel of carrying out a drone attack on Saudi Aramco facilities as a "false flag" operation, claiming Israel's goal was to distract regional countries from its strikes on Iranian civilian sites. Middle East Monitor
  • Iran's military also denied involvement in strikes on Oman, claiming that "the aggressor Zionists and Americans are seeking to attack diplomatic centers and the interests of Muslim countries in the region with the aim of blaming the Islamic Republic." Pravda USA

The source of the claim you saw:


The "false flag" framing appears in fringe outlets like 21st Century Wire, which speculated that Israel might stage a false flag to drag the US into war — sourced from an editor named Patrick Henningsen, not mainstream British media. 21st Century Wire This site is well-known for conspiracy-adjacent and pro-Kremlin narratives.


Bottom line: This is almost certainly Iranian-aligned or fringe-outlet disinformation, misattributed to "British media" to lend it credibility. The actual documented events show Iran attacking British, Turkish, and Gulf assets — not Israel staging false flags against European targets. Classic inversion tactic.
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Google or ChatGPT?
 
It's weird how often people will claim they're not one thing, and then immediately do things that prove they're are that one thing.
 
Iran is allowing CNN to report on the war from within its borders.

 
They are forcing mass migration in Lebanon right now and people want to hide behind the cover of antisemitism. Cowards.

 
SlyPokerDog said:
Nick Funtes is a racist piece of shit. You can find much better voices for that message.
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Sure, but that wouldn't highlight the point that even the hard right is turning. Most the people we post about are racists pieces of shit. Doesn't mean they don't happen to be right about this particular issue.
 
Sheldon Shape said:
Sure, but that wouldn't highlight the point that even the hard right is turning. Most the people we post about are racists pieces of shit. Doesn't means they don't happen to be right about this particular issue.
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Who fucking cares? Why normalize that POS?

There are 24 search results in the Epstein files for Iran War. Should we publish those to show even the pedophiles are against this?

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SlyPokerDog said:
Who fucking cares? Why normalize that POS?

There are 24 search results in the Epstein files for Iran War. Should we publish those to show even the pedophiles are against this?

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It's not normalizing when they already have a huge platform. That's what the left kept saying about podcasters who had Trump on while they let the election get taken from them because they'd rather stand on "morals." It's good to get perspective from as many sides as possible, not just the ones you agree with.
 
Sheldon Shape said:
They are forcing mass migration in Lebanon right now and people want to hide behind the cover of antisemitism. Cowards.

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Some additional information for those willing - that has nothing to do with hiding behind antisemitism:
The claim that Israel is conducting "mass migration" in Dahiya (beirut) conflates the outcome of displacement with the intent and legal framework behind the strikes — and that distinction matters enormously under international law.
International Humanitarian Law doesn't just permit warning civilians to evacuate combat zones — it requires it. Articles 57-58 of Additional Protocol I obligate belligerent forces to take precautions to protect civilians, including advance warning before strikes. Israel's repeated advance warnings to Dahiya residents — hours and in some cases days before strikes — isn't evidence of a displacement agenda. It's literally legal compliance.

Dahiya is not an arbitrary civilian neighborhood. It has been the acknowledged command-and-control hub of Hezbollah for decades — housing weapons storage, financial infrastructure, and senior military leadership, deliberately embedded within a dense residential area. This is a textbook case of a non-state actor using civilian cover as a strategic shield. Under IHL's principle of distinction, that shifts enormous legal and moral responsibility onto Hezbollah, not Israel.

Is the humanitarian toll devastating? Absolutely. But suffering caused by war is not automatically a war crime. "Population transfer" under the Rome Statute must be deliberate, permanent, and lacking military justification. Directing civilians away from a known military nerve center — with advance warning — satisfies none of those criteria.

The residents of Dahiya were warned to leave. Many did. The target was Hezbollah's infrastructure, not the population. Permanent displacement requires the destruction of the right to return — and that legal threshold has not been established here.

Disagree with Israel's methods if you wish — proportionality debates are legitimate. But labeling a targeted campaign against a designated terrorist organization's headquarters as demographic engineering requires far more than "people fled before the bombs fell."

The strongest argument against Hezbollah right now isn't coming from Israel — it's coming from Lebanon itself.

Lebanese Prime Minister Nawaf Salam just formally banned all of Hezbollah's military activities, declaring them illegal and ordering security forces to prevent any attacks launched from Lebanese soil. Al Jazeera President Aoun backed this up, stating it's "final with no turning back" — war and peace belong to Beirut alone, not to a militia serving Tehran. Al Jazeera

Even longtime Hezbollah ally, Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri, supported the ban. Al Jazeera When you've lost your own political cover, the "resistance" narrative is finished.
Meanwhile, displaced Lebanese civilians are saying openly: "The people are tired." PBS

Israel didn't create Hezbollah's illegitimacy in Lebanon. Lebanon's own institutions just declared it.
 
2Fluffy4U said:
Some additional information for those willing - that has nothing to do with hiding behind antisemitism:
The claim that Israel is conducting "mass migration" in Dahiya (beirut) conflates the outcome of displacement with the intent and legal framework behind the strikes — and that distinction matters enormously under international law.
International Humanitarian Law doesn't just permit warning civilians to evacuate combat zones — it requires it. Articles 57-58 of Additional Protocol I obligate belligerent forces to take precautions to protect civilians, including advance warning before strikes. Israel's repeated advance warnings to Dahiya residents — hours and in some cases days before strikes — isn't evidence of a displacement agenda. It's literally legal compliance.

Dahiya is not an arbitrary civilian neighborhood. It has been the acknowledged command-and-control hub of Hezbollah for decades — housing weapons storage, financial infrastructure, and senior military leadership, deliberately embedded within a dense residential area. This is a textbook case of a non-state actor using civilian cover as a strategic shield. Under IHL's principle of distinction, that shifts enormous legal and moral responsibility onto Hezbollah, not Israel.

Is the humanitarian toll devastating? Absolutely. But suffering caused by war is not automatically a war crime. "Population transfer" under the Rome Statute must be deliberate, permanent, and lacking military justification. Directing civilians away from a known military nerve center — with advance warning — satisfies none of those criteria.

The residents of Dahiya were warned to leave. Many did. The target was Hezbollah's infrastructure, not the population. Permanent displacement requires the destruction of the right to return — and that legal threshold has not been established here.

Disagree with Israel's methods if you wish — proportionality debates are legitimate. But labeling a targeted campaign against a designated terrorist organization's headquarters as demographic engineering requires far more than "people fled before the bombs fell."

The strongest argument against Hezbollah right now isn't coming from Israel — it's coming from Lebanon itself.

Lebanese Prime Minister Nawaf Salam just formally banned all of Hezbollah's military activities, declaring them illegal and ordering security forces to prevent any attacks launched from Lebanese soil. Al Jazeera President Aoun backed this up, stating it's "final with no turning back" — war and peace belong to Beirut alone, not to a militia serving Tehran. Al Jazeera

Even longtime Hezbollah ally, Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri, supported the ban. Al Jazeera When you've lost your own political cover, the "resistance" narrative is finished.
Meanwhile, displaced Lebanese civilians are saying openly: "The people are tired." PBS

Israel didn't create Hezbollah's illegitimacy in Lebanon. Lebanon's own institutions just declared it.
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You are too articulate to be a bot, but it seems to be more and more apparent that you are not just some random poster on a random website. It is obvious (at least to me) that you have an agenda beyond "educating" poor, "clueless" Americans shmucks who don't see it Israel's way. How many other sites do you haunt, "educating" the masses with propaganda that flies in the face of most of what we see? Are you paid by the Israeli government....or some quasi independent arm of it? I am genuinely interested in knowing the facts, but you are hell bent on trying to defend the (from all accounts) indefensible. The Israelis are NOT victims in ANY of this mess. They are the aggressors (at least now that Hamas has been shattered) and now they have dragged America into their endless mess. And MAGA is every bit of a terrorist organization as Hezbollah (and do NOT ever kid yourself otherwise) but even I cannot (at least yet) condone or rationalize violence and physical destruction against them. The hoops you jump through to justify your country's vile actions are tiring to say the least.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
You are too articulate to be a bot, but it seems to be more and more apparent that you are not just some random poster on a random website. It is obvious (at least to me) that you have an agenda beyond "educating" poor, "clueless" Americans shmucks who don't see it Israel's way. How many other sites do you haunt, "educating" the masses with propaganda that flies in the face of most of what we see? Are you paid by the Israeli government....or some quasi independent arm of it? I am genuinely interested in knowing the facts, but you are hell bent on trying to defend the (from all accounts) indefensible. The Israelis are NOT victims in ANY of this mess. They are the aggressors (at least now that Hamas has been shattered) and now they have dragged America into their endless mess. And MAGA is every bit of a terrorist organization as Hezbollah (and do NOT ever kid yourself otherwise) but even I cannot (at least yet) condone or rationalize violence and physical destruction against them. The hoops you jump through to justify your country's vile actions are tiring to say the least.
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Blocked him a week ago. Waste of time. Around in circles. Not productive for anyone.
 

UAE billionaire tears into Trump for dragging ME into war with Iran​

UAE billionaire Khalaf Al Habtoor tore into U.S. President Donald Trump for dragging the Middle East into war with Iran.​


UAE billionaire Khalaf Al Habtoor tore into U.S. President Donald Trump for dragging the Middle East into war with Iran.

In an open letter posted on X, Khalaf Al Habtoor, Chairman of the Al Habtoor Group – one of the most successful conglomerates in the Gulf, accused Trump of pushing the Gulf Cooperation Council and the Arab countries at the heart of a danger they did not choose.

“Who gave you the authority to drag our region into a war with #Iran? And on what basis did you make this dangerous decision?” the UAE business tycoon wrote in his letter written in Arabic.

“Did you calculate the collateral damage before pulling the trigger? And did you consider that the first to suffer from this escalation will be the countries of the region itself”, he wrote.

In a scathing attack, Khalaf Al Habtoor accused Trump of cheating the Americans, and asked if the decision to go to the war with Iran was under the influence of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

“The peoples of this region have the right to ask as well: Was this your decision alone? Or did it come as a result of pressures from Netanyahu and his government?” he asked.

Referring directly Trump’s Board of Peace, Khalaf Al Habtoor said instead of peace and stability in the region as promised, “we find ourselves facing a military escalation that endangers the entire region”.

In his letter addressed to Donald Trump, Khalaf Al Habtoor also said his approval ratings have gone done because of the war mongering.

He said Trump promised peace and not to go to war but broke his promise and intervened in seven countries.

Full Text of Khalaf Al Habtoor's letter to Trump​

His Excellency President Donald Trump,

A direct question: Who gave you the authority to drag our region into a war with #Iran? And on what basis did you make this dangerous decision?

Did you calculate the collateral damage before pulling the trigger? And did you consider that the first to suffer from this escalation will be the countries of the region itself!

The people of this region have the right to ask as well: Was this your decision alone? Or did it come as a result of pressures from #Netanyahu and his government?

You have placed the countries of the #GulfCooperationCouncil and the Arab countries at the heart of a danger they did not choose. Thank God, we are strong and capable of defending ourselves, and we have armies and defenses that protect our homelands, but the question remains: Who gave you permission to turn our region into a battlefield?

For before the ink has dried on the #BoardOfPeace initiative that you announced in the name of peace and stability, we find ourselves facing a military escalation that endangers the entire region. So where did those initiatives go? And what is the fate of the commitments made in the name of peace?

Most of the funding proposed in those initiatives came from the countries of the region themselves, and from Arab Gulf countries that contributed billions of dollars on the basis of supporting stability and development. And these countries have the right to ask today: Where did this money go? And are we funding peace initiatives or funding a war that exposes us to danger?

More dangerous than that, your decision does not threaten only the peoples of the region, but also reaches the American people whom you promised peace and prosperity. And here they are today, finding themselves in a war funded from their money and taxes, with costs ranging, according to the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), between 40-65 billion dollars for direct military operations, and could reach 210 billion dollars including economic impacts and indirect losses if it lasts four to five weeks, not to mention the sacrifice of Americans themselves in a war in which they have neither camel nor she-camel.

You have even broken your promises not to get involved in wars and to focus only on America and put it at the top of your priorities, as you ordered foreign military interventions during your second term that included seven countries: Somalia, Iraq, Yemen, Nigeria, Syria, Iran, and Venezuela, in addition to naval operations in the Caribbean and the eastern Pacific Ocean. You directed more than 658 foreign airstrikes in your first year in office, which equals the total strikes in Biden's entire term, for which you directed your arrows of criticism for involving the United States in foreign wars.

Your Excellency the President, these numbers have severely reflected on your approval ratings among Americans, which have declined since your inauguration for the second term, by about 9% in just 400 days.

These numbers say something clear: Even within #TheUnitedStates, there is growing concern about being dragged into a new war, and about exposing the lives of Americans, their economy, and their future to unnecessary risks.

True leadership is not measured by war decisions, but by wisdom, respect for others, and pushing toward achieving peace. And if these initiatives were launched in the name of peace, then we have the right today to demand full transparency and clear accountability.
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UAE billionaire tears into Trump for dragging ME into war with Iran

UAE billionaire Khalaf Al Habtoor tore into U.S. President Donald Trump for dragging the Middle East into war with Iran.
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If you click on the tweet it will translate it to English.

 
Difference is it's not in good faith and regurgitated from chat gpt. It's not like I didn't listen for months on in. Two very different things, Sly. You know better.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
You are too articulate to be a bot, but it seems to be more and more apparent that you are not just some random poster on a random website. It is obvious (at least to me) that you have an agenda beyond "educating" poor, "clueless" Americans shmucks who don't see it Israel's way. How many other sites do you haunt, "educating" the masses with propaganda that flies in the face of most of what we see? Are you paid by the Israeli government....or some quasi independent arm of it? I am genuinely interested in knowing the facts, but you are hell bent on trying to defend the (from all accounts) indefensible. The Israelis are NOT victims in ANY of this mess. They are the aggressors (at least now that Hamas has been shattered) and now they have dragged America into their endless mess. And MAGA is every bit of a terrorist organization as Hezbollah (and do NOT ever kid yourself otherwise) but even I cannot (at least yet) condone or rationalize violence and physical destruction against them. The hoops you jump through to justify your country's vile actions are tiring to say the least.
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I appreciate your interest and genuine intrigue in my motives. So I will try and answer your questions at the ordered asked and then will probably add some..
1. I am not active in any other sites (I do not haunt any other sites). I was active in the realgm forum since 2012, when David Blatt coached the Cavaliers but was banned from the site following Oct 7 for being too emotional and letting others get the best of me and making me react in ways I shouldn't have.
2. I am paid by the Israeli government, but not for my activity online :) . I work in a government hospital as a neuropsychologist. (I also have private clinic so that I can actually sustain myself etc.. :) (be happy to discuss professional matters if anyone around here is familiar with the field).
3. I agree Israelis are not victims. This is one of my recurrent slogans throughout the thread. We are responsible and we are also to blame - I never voted for Bibi and I think that in many ways like Trump in the U.S - his MO causes tears and divide in the society. I am against him vehemently with regards to 99% of his actions and decisions. Israel is far from clean slate or without any wrong doings, but it is my utmost conviction that we are trying our best (which I know will not satisfy you). I will not elaborate much but during second Lebanon war I lost one of my soldiers (I trained him for 8 months). In 2024 I lost my platoon commander and another good friend in Lebanon as well. I know war. I know how it feels first hand. I have to know what I am fighting for. And I can guarantee - When I was in combat situations - I always knew I have to protect all civilians and never in my life did I feel hate for the people on the other side. I learned to feel hate towards Hamas following Oct 7. I do feel there is a lot of hate towards me here (admittingly by Sheldon mostly/only) - but that is what is most frustrating for me - the guy doesn't even know me and he hates me so much - just for having a different view on things (which I am very much entitled for as I am living it, Just like I don't know much about US domestic issues so I ask (recently realized how different Israeli and American voting systems are in the Transgender thread).
4. For non native English speaker - I think I am okay and can be seen articulate. however I do use AI assistance (Claude mostly) when trying to formulate my comments and replies. I recommend all people to do the same - but make sure the bottom line is saying what you actually intended to say.
5. The issue for me is this mirror effect, that this is a lot of 'projection'. The way you see me 'rationalize' my views - is to extent the way I see you (some of the commentators) rationalizing yours. This huge gap in perception is the problem IMO. We have way too much exposure to fast click info bits that project an image so vivid and clear, that complexity and real concrete serious notions (borderline philosophical) are being washed out and extinguished.
Reality is not Aggressor vs Victim, Occupier Vs Colonizer, Rich vs Poor.. it is IMHO a lot of good people trying to be good - but it is so hard today when information and society are no longer just your local neighborhood.
6. I do hope discussion here could lead to gap closures instead of tears. But I fully understand everyone is free to think feel and act however they choose. I have no control or desire for control - Just the option/privilege of sharing my personal views.
After spending all this time writing the reply - I can say I guess my motive is being able to speak things that are usually unspoken..
 
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