Washington Wizards center Jason Collins reveals he is gay

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May I be the first (and perhaps only) in this thread to say, "Who cares?". As long as they're not hurting anyone else, why would I ever care about someone's private life?
 
maxiep said:
May I be the first (and perhaps only) in this thread to say, "Who cares?". As long as they're not hurting anyone else, why would I ever care about someone's private life?
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A 7-ft black guy? That's gotta hurt!
 
maxiep said:
May I be the first (and perhaps only) in this thread to say, "Who cares?". As long as they're not hurting anyone else, why would I ever care about someone's private life?
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Well, hopefully there will be a time when the general public has the same reaction. I don't personally care that he is gay. But I do care that he feels comfortable enough to come out to the public (and that potentially others will follow). At some point we won't have any pro athletes coming out because they won't have to hide who they are in college or high school. That is why his announcement today is important (and why I care).
 
Bravo to Martell Webster for placing it in perspective.

Webster's twitter said:
Martell Webster ‏@MartellWebster 43m
@jasoncillins34 you have made sports what it should be and that's "OPEN" proud of you for being you.
That jump shot is still weak lol.
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Very interesting. So far, all im hearing is positive, but I know there is some bone head player who's gonna say something nasty. Or, perhaps we really have moved beyond this. Time will tell. P.S. I have come up with a bunch of good puns for this subject, but decided not to post them, I don't want simple humor to be taken as something its not meant to be.
 
I had a really good friend who's twin brother turned out to be gay. The funny thing is that I totally knew long before he came out. Both of them had chicks beating down their door all the time, but his brother never was interested. He had tons of female friends, but he was never interested in anything more, and some of the girls were ridiculously hot. He went off to college and that's when he came out of the closet. Apparently it was really rough on their family at first because they're pretty religious, but his dad is a good dude and they ultimately accepted it.

I've always wondered if it's common for twins to have one gay and one straight.
 
I seem to remember that it's not "genetics" so much as gene expression that influence gender spectrum. So you can have two identical twins with the same genes, but depending on how the genes are expressed or exposed to hormones or whatever determines generally where a person's gender identity is... it may have been a recent study with a lot of controversy around, but that's what I remember hearing.
 
I had a long time friend who disclosed he was gay a few years ago. I never really considered he was gay until some of my family members asked if he might be gay. I never really cared to be honest. I was a little hurt though when he came out 25 years later, because it seemed like he must not have trusted me to tell me that. I understand it's tougher on the people coming out then it is on the people that they tell. I'm sure it is still kind of a roller coaster of emotions for people like Jason Collins' brother. I think it is quite courageous of Collins to come out. However, he is a fringe NBA player and I wonder if any team signs him.
 
Its funny how some people seem to have such strong opinion (usually negative) on the issue until it directly effects someone they know. Like it becomes real for them at that point when its been "real" for millions of other people forever
 
If I had to guess which Stanford 7' twins sported a gay member, I would have picked Lopez over Collins for sure. Girl names and transvestite voices... Just goes to show how little you really know about someone.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I seem to remember that it's not "genetics" so much as gene expression that influence gender spectrum. So you can have two identical twins with the same genes, but depending on how the genes are expressed or exposed to hormones or whatever determines generally where a person's gender identity is... it may have been a recent study with a lot of controversy around, but that's what I remember hearing.
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That's interesting. I always wondered if personality traits were divvied up when the egg splits. I've known a few sets of twins, some identical and some fraternal, and I've always noticed that one seemed more masculine than the other. Maybe not necessarily gay and straight, but maybe a little more sensitive if that makes sense.
 
I just find it sad that a man makes an announcement that he is attracted to other men and it makes national headlines. Meanwhile, police in California have removed an infant from his parents, at their home, without a warrant, because an M.D. was offended that they wanted a second opinion on whether the infant should have heart surgery. Our priorities are all messed up. Guess how much coverage the second item got?
 
Interesting world we live in. Tim Tebow gets mocked for his Christian beliefs, while Jason Collins gets held up as some kind of role model for saying he is a homosexual.
 
maxiep said:
May I be the first (and perhaps only) in this thread to say, "Who cares?". As long as they're not hurting anyone else, why would I ever care about someone's private life?
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I know. This is like the biggest "sports news" story of the day. Bigger than moving the Queens to Seattle. (Sorry, Shaq, couldn't resist! :) )

More power to him. It's a lot tougher for a man to come out than a woman, and a lot tougher for a male athlete than a woman athlete. It's true this makes him somewhat of a leader in this matter. Like you, maxie, I don't care one bit about his private life. I do admire his courage, though.
 
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Very interesting. So far, all im hearing is positive, but I know there is some bone head player who's gonna say something nasty. Or, perhaps we really have moved beyond this. Time will tell. P.S. I have come up with a bunch of good puns for this subject, but decided not to post them, I don't want simple humor to be taken as something its not meant to be.
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I think in this day and age, those athletes who have nasty comments should be educated enough on PR and social media to keep their thoughts to themselves. I have no doubt however their are plenty of macho men who are uncomfortable about it, whether they are foolish enough to broadcast it or not.
 
Reep said:
I just find it sad that a man makes an announcement that he is attracted to other men and it makes national headlines. Meanwhile, police in California have removed an infant from his parents, at their home, without a warrant, because an M.D. was offended that they wanted a second opinion on whether the infant should have heart surgery. Our priorities are all messed up. Guess how much coverage the second item got?
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Call me uncharitable, but I'm wondering if your description of the case does it full justice.
 
handiman said:
If I had to guess which Stanford 7' twins sported a gay member, I would have picked Lopez over Collins for sure. Girl names and transvestite voices... Just goes to show how little you really know about someone.
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Or anything, really.
 
Don't worry, Shooter, Chris Broussard's got your back (in a totally not-gay way):

During a Monday segment on ESPN’s “Outside the Lines,” sportswriter Chris Broussard denounced Jason Collins, the first openly gay athlete in the history of professional sports, for “living in unrepentant sin.”

Broussard went on to accuse Collins of not being a Christian and “walking in open rebellion to God”:

Personally, I don’t believe that you can live an openly homosexual lifestyle or an openly, like premarital sex between heterosexuals. If you’re openly living that type of lifestyle, then the Bible says you know them by their fruits. It says that, you know, that’s a sin. If you’re openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, not just homosexuality, whatever it maybe, I believe that’s walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ. So I would not characterize that person as a Christian because I don’t think the bible would characterize them as a Christian.
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That line's either an intentional, albeit old-fashioned slur, or... weird.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Don't worry, Shooter, Chris Broussard's got your back (in a totally not-gay way):
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Annnnnnnnd ESPN will fire him shortly. What a moron. That's his opinion, and he's welcome to it, but when he's representing such a huge corporate machine as Disney (ESPN), he will shortly find out that they do not enjoy being at the center of a huge PR disaster. Bye bye Chris.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Annnnnnnnd ESPN will fire him shortly. What a moron. That's his opinion, and he's welcome to it, but when he's representing such a huge corporate machine as Disney (ESPN), he will shortly find out that they do not enjoy being at the center of a huge PR disaster. Bye bye Chris.
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Maybe he's pushing to be hired by Fox.
 
I guess it is a shame that we won't know if this "Bible says such and such" stuff is legit until we die and at that point we can't tell anyone whether they should let it shape their opinions or not.
 
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