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Depending on the extend of Giannis’s injury i wonder what that will do to his trade value
 
When they tear it all down:

MIL pick swap back to MIL

AJ Green to Portland
 
GoZers said:
Dame thinks this team plus him is championship level? Uh no. They should trade all young guys and or picks for Giannis. Deni Dame Jrue Giannis Grant and fill out roster. At least it would be fun to watch vs this current group
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Grant would have to go out in a Giannis deal
 
Zero interest in Giannis. The team would be no better than where he is now.
 
My thought on any trade is that a shooter is needed. And I do not see Sharpe getting better at it. His best offense is getting to the rim, which is also Avdija's talent. I would look to send him to PHX for Grayson Allen or a similar player since the Suns seem to have a glut of shooting wings.
 
Cugel said:
Zero interest in Giannis. The team would be no better than where he is now.
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Giannis is arguably a top 5 player & 2 time MVP and you’re not interested? When will any of our players be top 5 do that?
 
BigGameDamian said:
Giannis is arguably a top 5 player & 2 time MVP and you’re not interested? When will any of our players be top 5 do that?
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I just don’t think there would be enough pieces to go around him. With him the Bucks are currently mediocre and his stats are amazing. Also, how will his game adapt to his age?
 
BIG Q said:
My thought on any trade is that a shooter is needed. And I do not see Sharpe getting better at it. His best offense is getting to the rim, which is also Avdija's talent. I would look to send him to PHX for Grayson Allen or a similar player since the Suns seem to have a glut of shooting wings.
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Grayson Allen. GRAYSON ALLEN!? MODS! DO SOMETHING!
 
People are way too hard on Shae right now. The guy is averaging 21 ppg and 5 rpg. He's an ascending young talent.

I also think people here are abandoning our rebuild in ways that just don't make sense.

Fuck going all in for a superstar like Giannis that is likely on his way down from being one of the top 5 players in the league.

Also, I don't know what it is about a catastrophically injured 35 year old Dame that has so many in here feeling like our championship window is next year. We have the young players to be good for a very long time and the draft capital to go all in on an upgrade when those young players are getting closer to their primes.
 
Cugel said:
Zero interest in Giannis. The team would be no better than where he is now.
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What? He’s a top 2 player in the league. If we had just four decent starters around him (let alone Jrue, Deni) they would be better than this shit show.
 
blazerkor said:
People are way too hard on Shae right now. The guy is averaging 21 ppg and 5 rpg. He's an ascending young talent.

I also think people here are abandoning our rebuild in ways that just don't make sense.

Fuck going all in for a superstar like Giannis that is likely on his way down from being one of the top 5 players in the league.

Also, I don't know what it is about a catastrophically injured 35 year old Dame that has so many in here feeling like our championship window is next year. We have the young players to be good for a very long time and the draft capital to go all in on an upgrade when those young players are getting closer to their primes.
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I hate to break it to you but I think plenty of us are doubtful we have any youth other than Deni that will ascend to star level. Sharpe is still a maybe.

If Dame comes back and is 85% of what he was, go for it. Give him the chance he never had after Aldridge left. Jrue is also old and father time is undefeated.

Giannis is like 30. He isn't just going to magically descend in the next couple years. We rarely get opportunities to get a player of his caliber either. It will be fully Dame and Jrue recruiting him to us of he decides he is cool with coming here.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
I hate to break it to you but I think plenty of us are doubtful we have any youth other than Deni that will ascend to star level. Sharpe is still a maybe.

If Dame comes back and is 85% of what he was, go for it. Give him the chance he never had after Aldridge left. Jrue is also old and father time is undefeated.

Giannis is like 30. He isn't just going to magically descend in the next couple years. We rarely get opportunities to get a player of his caliber either. It will be fully Dame and Jrue recruiting him to us of he decides he is cool with coming here.
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You aren't breaking anything to me.

I think Deni is an all star level player now with an all nba upside. I agree that Shaedon is a huge maybe as an all star but he'll be a good scoring guard going forward with a lot of upside. I think the talk of what Scoot was doing before the camp is likely real and if Scoot can ever stay healthy he is also a maybe to be an all star level player.

I think we have good role players with some but not much more upside in Toumani and Donovan (I don't think Donovan is a fit for our schemes but who knows what those schemes will be next season). Who knows what the fuck Yang will be.

I have no idea what trade value Jrue, Tisse or Rob have but I hope Joe is going to get that value for them at the deadline. I think Jerami has probably rehabilitated his trade value to something neutral and if he has we should unload him for expiring contracts.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
Giannis is like 30. He isn't just going to magically descend in the next couple years. We rarely get opportunities to get a player of his caliber either. It will be fully Dame and Jrue recruiting him to us of he decides he is cool with coming here.
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How old was Dwight Howard when the bottom fell out of his game? Blake Griffin? Super-athletic big men do not age gracefully. I have a bad feeling that we'd be getting Portland Shawn Kemp or Detroit Blake Griffin (or even Boston Shaq or Toronto Hakeem).
 
Rastapopoulos said:
How old was Dwight Howard when the bottom fell out of his game? Blake Griffin? Super-athletic big men do not age gracefully. I have a bad feeling that we'd be getting Portland Shawn Kemp or Detroit Blake Griffin (or even Boston Shaq or Toronto Hakeem).
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Exactly. It’s not like he will develop some killer midrange stuff as he ages. To think Jrue and Dame will be his supporting cast is awfully naive. You immediately go from youth to golden years. With Giannis and no Deni, Tou etc., POR wouldn’t be better than OKC, HOU etc. Not even contending. The thought MIL will want PORs garbage like DC, Scoot, SS etc while altruistically leaving Deni and Tou is laughable.
 
The only Giannis trade that interests me is a three-way with us getting a Deni-like player in return for Milwaukee getting our picks back and the Deni-donor getting Giannis. The obvious third party is the Knicks, and I'd love to get OB or Bridges, but OB has a HUGE salary (so that Milwaukee would have to take Grant and change from us to make it work) and Bridges has a poison pill contract. I mean, I love Josh Hart dearly, but he's 2 years older than the other two and doesn't help with our three point shooting problem. Plus I don't think he'd be happy coming back.

OB looks like the obvious target, but then Milwaukee doesn't get enough because our swaps with the Bucks aren't that valuable, and the Knicks don't have a trove of picks to add. PLUS the Bucks are saddled with Grant (and we actually value him at the moment).

The other option is Miami, but similar problems. In this case "the Deni" would be Jaime Jaquez, but Milwaukee would have to be happy with drek like Tyler Herro. Unless we get Bam, of course, but that kind of strips Miami down to the bare bones.
 
I think the kind of trade you're going to see -- if there is any trade -- is something similar to how we got Deni. We're looking for a young player that's blocked on his current team and hasn't really gotten a chance to show what he can be. An organization that might have changed GMs in the last three years that didn't acquire the player in the first place would make sense, because they might not value the previous administration's picks as valuable; they want to install their own vision and would be eager to move anyone there prior.

An international prospect would also fit the bill, because that's in Schmitz's wheelhouse and he probably knows more about those players than anyone.

I just don't see the Blazers parting with resources now for say a 2-3-year window with Giannis or something like that. Giannis and Dame couldn't even get through the East. They might not make the top six in the West. That doesn't even take into account what you'd have to give up to get Giannis or a current all-star-level player and how you'd fill that roster with lacking cap room and no free agent willing to sign with Portland other than an overpay. That team wouldn't be in position to beat SGA and the cast of thousands the Thunder are going to be throwing out there for the next couple of years.

The Blazers, IMO, need to build through the draft and the occasional shrewd Deni-like trade for a player on his first contract, try to build like the Thunder and be in a position to step into the void when the Thunder eventually slip because they can't pay all these guys and their draft picks lose value because they can't bring in players good enough to displace those that already are there.
 
Haven’t we been trying to get John Collins for years?
 
Tari Eason could fit the bill of a "Deni" type of trade. Younger guy, blocked by Jabari and, potentially Giannis if acquired. He's just hurt all the time, and a RFA. Would prefer Jabari, locked in to a solid deal.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
How old was Dwight Howard when the bottom fell out of his game? Blake Griffin? Super-athletic big men do not age gracefully. I have a bad feeling that we'd be getting Portland Shawn Kemp or Detroit Blake Griffin (or even Boston Shaq or Toronto Hakeem).
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good point although Blake Griffin had way too many serious injuries to be a good template

Dwight is a good example, and he was impactful when he was 32, but fell off rapidly after that. Giannis just turned 31

Gerald Wallace was mostly baked by the time he hit 30. Kevin Garnett was still effective at 35, but his superstar days ended when he was 31-32. Rasheed was still effective at 34, but was a long ways from an all-star by then

so yeah, it's possible that Giannis only has a couple more seasons as a superstar in his future. So the Blazers should not pay a superstar price for potentially a very short window
 
Giannis doesn't make sense here as there's just not enough talent on the Blazers roster to contend and get milwaukee the trade haul they want.

We should listen though and try and to be the third team. It might be a bigger return if the Giannis trade is pushed to the summer though - then we will have 3 of the 4 future Bucks drafts.

Just standing pat is a great option though. The Bucks are backing themselves into a corner where they won't be able to avoid being a high lottery pick. Kind of like the Nets were when the Celtics ultimate got Tatum and Brown.

In the summer the Bucks could send out their 2031+2033 picks unprotected for another washed up all-star to give one final run with Giannis. That might ultimately be the best deal for PDX as then the Bucks will have lost all assets to be able to avoid the lottery once we have their picks.
 
RR7 said:
Tari Eason could fit the bill of a "Deni" type of trade. Younger guy, blocked by Jabari and, potentially Giannis if acquired. He's just hurt all the time, and a RFA. Would prefer Jabari, locked in to a solid deal.
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I like the idea, but Houston probably doesn't need us if they want Giannis
 
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