We all know our bench needs improvement. The question is, who goes?

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Starting 5(Included for response diversification purposes):
Damian Lillard
Wesley Matthews
Nicolas Batum
LaMarcus Aldridge
Robin Lopez

Bench:
Mo Williams
Earl Watson
CJ McCollum
Allen Crabbe
Will Barton
Dorell Wright
Victor Claver
Thomas Robinson
Joel Freeland
Meyers Leonard
 
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I do not think the starting 5 will be touched. All players are under contract for next season, and they performed at an elite level.

I think this team is 3 or maybe 4 quality roster changes away from being a championship team. There is no doubt this team will look different next season, and these are the players I think are most likely to go.

Included are just some of the available unrestricted free agents whom I believe are comparable, upgrades who are realistic opportunities.

1. Earl Watson - Was brought on to be a veteran and help pass his knowledge to the young guys. Not much productivity on court, can easily upgrade with some one who has been around the block, but can still give you solid minutes. Optimal (realistic) upgrade - Beno Udrih

2. Victor Claver - Was rumored to be unhappy at one point during the regular season. Would probably be happier playing in Spain. Claver plays a position that could easily be upgraded. When I think of Claver's usage I think of a tall, lengthy body who can stretch the floor. Optimal (realistic) upgrade - Spencer Hawes.

3. Dorell Wright - I love D.Wright, he will go down in history as one of my biggest fantasy sleeper pick ups ever after his crazy 3 pt shooting year in GS. Unfortunately he hasn't been able to produce at the same level at any time during his career. There is a plethora of skilled wing players who would be astounding bench producers. Optimal (realistic) upgrade - Luol Deng

4. Allen Crabbe - The unseen. No slight against Crabbe as a player, however this is not the situation for him to develop, or break out in. He could thrive on a young, rebuilding team where he would have the time to strengthen his game, and learn the flow of the NBA. This is our spot to improve our front court. Optimal (realistic) upgrade - Chris Kaman **This team WILL go after Greg Monroe, and it will depend on what he Pistons are willing to do. For the sake of the topic I only considered unrestricted free agents**

Centers are becoming rare breed in the NBA and while many fans are done with Leonard, I don't get the feeling the organization is ready to give up on him.

With CJ you have the opportunity to have an inactive player who swings between the D-League and NBA without recycling a lottery pick 1 year later. I don't think he will go this quickly unless packaged in a sign and trade.

Mo Williams will be here if he wants to. Mo gets a lot of shit from Blazer fans, but you can't judge him based off of his on court performance alone. If you need proof of his importance look no further than the fact he had the entire squad of young guys dressing together. You may think something like that is trivial, but it is truly a great showing of his mentorship.

The remaining bench players - Robinson, Barton, Freeland. All gave significant minutes this season, and I don't expect any of them to be moved unless part of a sign and trade.

This is how I rank the players on importance/likelihood of being moved.

15. Watson
14. Crabbe
13. Claver
12. Wright
11. Leonard
10. Freeland
9. McCollum
8. Barton
7. Williams
6. Robinson
5. Matthews
4. Batum
3. Lopez
2. Aldridge
1. Lillard

Let me know if you want my breakdown on any of the players, and where I ranked them. I held back because I know we all have our own opinion, however there was very much a method behind why each player is ranked where they are.
 
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The only guys on the bench that are worth a damn are Barton, Robinson, and Freeland.

I would keep CJ because he deserves a full summer and training camp. I don't have much faith in Crabbe, Claver, or Leonard. Wright, Mo, and Watson all need to go.
 
Tbh, none of them are untouchable for y'all. Honestly, I'd see what you guys could get for Matthews too; he's coming off a career year which will make his trade value skyrocket.

The only ones deserving of some thought are Robinson, McCollum, and Barton.
 
I'm with Nate: Why keep Claver, Crabbe, Leonard, Wright and Watson on the bench if they never get played. Mo will probably anyway.
 
I would try to package Batum and Wes for a legit 3rd star. If we can't get that then keep the starting 5 in tact. I think everyone on the bench is fair game. I wouldn't mind keeping TRob, Barton and Mo. The rest of the bench I wouldn't miss.

We need a better backup C. So Joel and Meyers are my picks to go.
 
I would try to package Batum and Wes for a legit 3rd star. If we can't get that then keep the starting 5 in tact. I think everyone on the bench is fair game. I wouldn't mind keeping TRob, Barton and Mo. The rest of the bench I wouldn't miss.

We need a better backup C. So Joel and Meyers are my picks to go.

Trading Batum would be a terrible move. SF and PG are the premier positions in the NBA right now, and you guys actually have premier players in those positions. Keep that infact. Move Matthews for a defensive swingman who can hit the three ala Green/Brewer. Not sure if there's any way you could pry Tony Allen from Memphis, but he'd be a tremendous fit as well. With Allen and Batum on the perimeter and Lopez in the paint, I could see Portland rising to be an elite defense; combined with y'alls offense it'd catapult the team to contender.
 
The only guys on the bench that are worth a damn are Barton, Robinson, and Freeland.

I would keep CJ because he deserves a full summer and training camp. I don't have much faith in Crabbe, Claver, or Leonard. Wright, Mo, and Watson all need to go.

It's ridiculous how undervalued Mo is. Same thing happened to Jamal Crawford. He has an average Crawford season, and got run out of town by the fans.

CJ McCollum is terrible. Try to dupe some team into taking him for a later pick in the first round.
 
I would want to keep all our current starters on the team, of course.

As for the bench, I would only want to keep McCollum, Barton, Crabbe, and Robinson.
 
Moving Matthews wouldn't shock me. Love his heart and his professionalism, but I think Rz4k might be on the right track.
 
Moving Matthews wouldn't shock me. Love his heart and his professionalism, but I think Rz4k might be on the right track.

Great idea to move Matthews and we can probably put Leonard in that deal for a SF/defensive swing.
 
Completed the explanation of my stance in the second post!
 
It's ridiculous how undervalued Mo is. Same thing happened to Jamal Crawford. He has an average Crawford season, and got run out of town by the fans.

CJ McCollum is terrible. Try to dupe some team into taking him for a later pick in the first round.

Mo Williams is a perennial playoff choker; take it from a fan whose team has faced him several times over the years. If Portland truly has title aspirations he's definitely a movable piece.
 
Mo Williams is a perennial playoff choker; take it from a fan whose team has faced him several times over the years. If Portland truly has title aspirations he's definitely a movable piece.

Mo as a starting PG stinks. He's one of the best offensive backup PGs in the NBA, though, and other than Ratball Barton, the only player who can create offense for himself and others.
 
Mo as a starting PG stinks. He's one of the best offensive backup PGs in the NBA, though, and other than Ratball Barton, the only player who can create offense for himself and others.

Thought he finally found his niche when he joined the Clippers back in 2012, but he was terrible in that role too. Honestly there are plenty of backup PGs that'll be on the market this offseason you guys should look at; I think Jameer Nelson is on that list iirc, whom would be absolutely perfect for Portland.
 
Getting Tony Allen would be great. Wouldn't trade Wesley though.
 
I do not think the starting 5 will be touched. All players are under contract for next season, and they performed at an elite level.

I think this team is 3 or maybe 4 quality roster changes away from being a championship team. There is no doubt this team will look different next season, and these are the players I think are most likely to go.

Included are just some of the available unrestricted free agents whom I believe are comparable, upgrades who are realistic opportunities.

1. Earl Watson - Was brought on to be a veteran and help pass his knowledge to the young guys. Not much productivity on court, can easily upgrade with some one who has been around the block, but can still give you solid minutes. Optimal (realistic) upgrade - Beno Udrih

2. Victor Claver - Was rumored to be unhappy at one point during the regular season. Would probably be happier playing in Spain. Claver plays a position that could easily be upgraded. When I think of Claver's usage I think of a tall, lengthy body who can stretch the floor. Optimal (realistic) upgrade - Spencer Hawes.

3. Dorell Wright - I love D.Wright, he will go down in history as one of my biggest fantasy sleeper pick ups ever after his crazy 3 pt shooting year in GS. Unfortunately he hasn't been able to produce at the same level at any time during his career. There is a plethora of skilled wing players who would be astounding bench producers. Optimal (realistic?) upgrade - Luol Deng

4. Allen Crabbe - The unseen. No slight against Crabbe as a player, however this is not the situation for him to develop, or break out in. He could thrive on a young, rebuilding team where he would have the time to strengthen his game, and learn the flow of the NBA. This is our spot to improve our front court. Optimal (realistic) upgrade - Chris Kaman **This team WILL go after Greg Monroe, and it will depend on what he Pistons are willing to do. For the sake of the topic I only considered unrestricted free agents**

Centers are becoming rare breed in the NBA and while many fans are done with Leonard, I don't get the feeling the organization is ready to give up on him.

With CJ you have the opportunity to have an inactive player who swings between the D-League and NBA without recycling a lottery pick 1 year later. I don't think he will go this quickly unless packaged in a sign and trade.

Mo Williams will be here if he wants to. Mo gets a lot of shit from Blazer fans, but you can't judge him based off of his on court performance alone. If you need proof of his importance look no further than the fact he had the entire squad of young guys dressing together. You may think something like that is trivial, but it is truly a great showing of his mentorship.

The remaining bench players - Robinson, Barton, Freeland. All gave significant minutes this season, and I don't expect any of them to be moved unless part of a sign and trade.

Actually we need some starters and then we have a good bench. Mathews coming of the bench sounds real good to me. Batum coming in to play point forward and and several roles seems good.

But for the bench we have, meh! the only one I would like to keep and see if he can develop is Leonard. We need to make a Tiago Splitter type out of him. The rest can be swapped in the process.
 
Bench:
Mo Williams = GO!
Earl Watson = GO! (good luck coaching)
CJ McCollum = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Allen Crabbe = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Will Barton = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Dorell Wright = GO!
Victor Claver = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Thomas Robinson = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Joel Freeland = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Meyers Leonard = GO!
 
If we can make Tiago Splitter out of Leonard we can make Draymond Green out of Claver - just one example.
 
It's ridiculous how undervalued Mo is. Same thing happened to Jamal Crawford. He has an average Crawford season, and got run out of town by the fans.

CJ McCollum is terrible. Try to dupe some team into taking him for a later pick in the first round.

I agree Mo should stay here. But to be fair Crawford was gone regardless barring a successful playoff trip. I think the same goes for Mo. If we had fallen short he would opt out, but with our success I think he decodes to stay with us. Which I think gratefully benefits this team.
 
Won't be suprised if CJ is traded. Just amazed at how low his stock has gotten.
 
The bench had 8 points tonight. They has 6 points in Game Three. The atrocious bench made this series a laugher for the Spurs.
 
CJ is a rookie, he's already almost a rotation player. Another Summer league and hopefully improving the 3 point shot and he's ready to contribute.
 
Bench:
Mo Williams = GO!
Earl Watson = GO! (good luck coaching)
CJ McCollum = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Allen Crabbe = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Will Barton = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Dorell Wright = GO!
Victor Claver = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Thomas Robinson = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Joel Freeland = PRACTICE LIKE HELL!
Meyers Leonard = GO!

I am intrigued by your opinion, and I value your opinion because I respect your knowledge of the game, and it's players. Do you have an explanation as to why you think those 4 should go? We agree on 2/4, but I am curious why you chose Claver and Crabbe over Leonard and Williams.

Specifically Williams vs Crabbe and Claver vs Leonard. I think stretch wings are easier to come by than a center with Meyers' size. Williams and Crabbe are both volume shooting guard, but Williams has much more experience.

Would love to hear your breakdown on your decision!
 
Stotts is playing two bench players. In game 4 they won the game for us. Stotts is stupid, the bench has talent.
 
The bench had 8 points tonight. They has 6 points in Game Three. The atrocious bench made this series a laugher for the Spurs.

A bench that goes 3 for 16 isn't to sweat over in terms of keepers.
 
Claver is a better player than Leonard right now. I think we should keep both.
 
CJ is a rookie, he's already almost a rotation player. Another Summer league and hopefully improving the 3 point shot and he's ready to contribute.

He's a long way from being even as competent as Meyers Leonard. Crazy thing is, Leonard is younger than CJ. CJ was supposed to be NBA-ready and provide offense. Olshey whiffed on that one.
 

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