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This would be a "KP" draft. He was all about getting a bunch of picks in "weak" drafts, while talking about trading out of "strong" ones.

I think there are plenty of contributors this year. If you look at it as "we need help in the 5/6/7/8/9 spots of our rotation", then yeah, there are a bunch of guys who I think could help a lot at some point in the next 4 years at a <2M salary. I mean, even if you hate Olynyk (I'm not sold on him, but it's only from box scores and anti-MickZagger videos that have been posted) I think we can agree that he'd probably get off the bench about as much and be about as effective as Freeland, right? Same for some of the Euro projects, if you either want to develop them in Idaho or in Europe--Sakic and Adetekunbo seem pretty legit.

I'm not saying that Olshey shouldn't do his due diligence on seeing what the pick might bring back (can't trade it until after the pick is made, though it can be made "for" someone and consummated July 10 if a FA is involved), but I don't see this as a disposable asset just b/c some players might not be NBA ready.

And I don't know about you guys, but it seems to me that Noel (before he was injured) was the A-Number-One, You-Couldn't-Draw-It-Up-Any-Better defensive-minded, paint-clogging, helpside-defending Center we need. If we got a Top 3 pick somehow I think he's a definite game-changer/ready-to-contribute-immediately player. If it's "just" an ACL injury that he can heal up from, then it seems like he's a fit.

Or I'd try to trade for MKG. ;)
 
BrianFromWA said:
This would be a "KP" draft. He was all about getting a bunch of picks in "weak" drafts, while talking about trading out of "strong" ones.
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What was his rationale for that?
 
BrianFromWA said:
This would be a "KP" draft. He was all about getting a bunch of picks in "weak" drafts, while talking about trading out of "strong" ones.

I think there are plenty of contributors this year. If you look at it as "we need help in the 5/6/7/8/9 spots of our rotation", then yeah, there are a bunch of guys who I think could help a lot at some point in the next 4 years at a <2M salary. I mean, even if you hate Olynyk (I'm not sold on him, but it's only from box scores and anti-MickZagger videos that have been posted) I think we can agree that he'd probably get off the bench about as much and be about as effective as Freeland, right? Same for some of the Euro projects, if you either want to develop them in Idaho or in Europe--Sakic and Adetekunbo seem pretty legit.

I'm not saying that Olshey shouldn't do his due diligence on seeing what the pick might bring back (can't trade it until after the pick is made, though it can be made "for" someone and consummated July 10 if a FA is involved), but I don't see this as a disposable asset just b/c some players might not be NBA ready.

And I don't know about you guys, but it seems to me that Noel (before he was injured) was the A-Number-One, You-Couldn't-Draw-It-Up-Any-Better defensive-minded, paint-clogging, helpside-defending Center we need. If we got a Top 3 pick somehow I think he's a definite game-changer/ready-to-contribute-immediately player. If it's "just" an ACL injury that he can heal up from, then it seems like he's a fit.

Or I'd try to trade for MKG. ;)
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So we should take someone with chronic injuries?
 
No offense to any of you, but 95% of us do not know jack shit about this draft. Myself included. It's not like the old days when we watched the players for 3-4 years. The only thing we do know is that there is no apparent super star in this draft that dominated in college. There are decent players out there, we just don't know yet who they are.

But you want to wait for a better draft. Well based on last year's draft it may not come very often. That doesn't mean there are not 12 players from around the world that can't turn out to be good players, it just means you have to be patient and develop them. College stars may have to get used to playing in the D league for a while if they want to leave early. The talent is there but they are just not getting enough coaching in college anymore. The smart franchises will develop good players and the others will try to trade for them after they develop.

We want the Blazers to suck and build through the draft? Well this is the reality of it. now.
 
We are in the lottery. We don't know whether or not we keep or give up the pick to Charlotte. Teams #13 & #14 could leap past us and into the top 3, putting us into #13 and CHA gets the pick.
I like Plumlee, Hardaway Jr, Robinson III, and Oladipo if we're picking.
 
Harry's Raincoat said:
We are in the lottery. We don't know whether or not we keep or give up the pick to Charlotte. Teams #13 & #14 could leap past us and into the top 3, putting us into #13 and CHA gets the pick.
I like Plumlee, Hardaway Jr, Robinson III, and Oladipo if we're picking.
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.........OR we could just slide into the 11th pick and none of that other stuff could happen.
 
I'm curious what would happen if we win the lottery? I heard that Phoenix wanted a high lotto pick for Gortat. If that's true; then couldn't we just offer the pick and Freeland for Gortat? I think Freeland's contract + our available cap space would be easy pickens in this scenario. We could do this and still retain both Hickson and Maynor; just to keep their Bird rights if other deals fell through.
 
Chad Ford new mock has us taking Mitch McGary at 12 and passing on Trey Burke who falls to 13? WTF?
 
craigehlo said:
Chad Ford new mock has us taking Mitch McGary at 12 and passing on Trey Burke who falls to 13? WTF?
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He now knows we are suckers for taking white centers in the lottery, so he threw him on our team
 
magnifier661 said:
I'm curious what would happen if we win the lottery? I heard that Phoenix wanted a high lotto pick for Gortat. If that's true; then couldn't we just offer the pick and Freeland for Gortat? I think Freeland's contract + our available cap space would be easy pickens in this scenario. We could do this and still retain both Hickson and Maynor; just to keep their Bird rights if other deals fell through.
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If we win the lotto, it'd be a waste to give it up for Gortat.
 
RR7 said:
If we win the lotto, it'd be a waste to give it up for Gortat.
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I think we could get gortat for our lotto pick if we take back some salary.

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Trade it to Charlotte for our pick in 2014. :)

the Blazers have too much youth on this team and need players who can contribute right away. I hope they package the pick . . . not sure who they can package it with, but that is what I'm hoping.
 
Rhal said:
I think we could get gortat for our lotto pick if we take back some salary.

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Maybe. I was replaying to mags saying if we win(#1 pick) the lotto. I'm not trading the #1 pick for Gortat.
 
RR7 said:
Maybe. I was replaying to mags saying if we win(#1 pick) the lotto. I'm not trading the #1 pick for Gortat.
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If we win the lotto I'd try and trade the pick but I agree that gortat isn't close to worth a top 3 pick.

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Treaty_of_Batum said:
Trade it to Charlotte for our pick in 2014. :)

the Blazers have too much youth on this team and need players who can contribute right away. I hope they package the pick . . . not sure who they can package it with, but that is what I'm hoping.
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I think #12 , along with cap space, to get a center is reasonable for a couple of teams who want cap relief.

Because of that it has value. Trading it for our 2014 pick would not be a good move.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think #12 , along with cap space, to get a center is reasonable for a couple of teams who want cap relief.

Because of that it has value. Trading it for our 2014 pick would not be a good move.
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But you haven't heard about my tank plan 2.0 for 2013-14.
 
If we land #1 pick - we keep it and take either Noels or McLemore. Noels could become a good/great post. McLemore could become our starting SGOTF.
 
magnifier661 said:
I thought the top 3 is a crap shoot
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Even still, I wouldn't trade that high a pick for Gortat, personally. I don't think he's good enough. I would shop the ppick heavily, though.
 
Harry's Raincoat said:
If we land #1 pick - we keep it and take either Noels or McLemore. Noels could become a good/great post. McLemore could become our starting SGOTF.
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I wonder if sending Lillard would have the same impact as Roy did for us years ago?
 
I think the #12 & Freeland could probably be moved to Phoenix for Gortat and Frye.

If Frye has to retire then they moved Gortat for the #12 (and took on $6M in contracts), but if Frye doesn't have to retire then we absorb 4M for two years in Frye's contract (over Freeland) and give up the #12 for one year of Gortat. It would be a gamble that we'd be competitive next year and our guys would get better w/that experience. Damian needs a good pick n roll big and we need post D, Gortat can provide both in spades and hopefully teach some of those skills to Meyers.

I think that we could then sign a 2/3 to come off the bench and provide shooting and defense and be pretty competitive. Martell Webster would make some sense to me.

Lillard (28) /Maynor (20)
Matthews (30)/ Lillard (10)/ Webster (8)
Batum (34) / Webster (14)
Aldridge (36) / Frye (12)
Gortat (30) / Frye (8) / Leonard (10)

That is a young, but very competitive team IMO. I think we're a sure fire playoff team and a lot of the young guys would get great experience.
 
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