We Need To Go Full Force on Trading for Millsap

[BonesJones]

Should Atlanta be able to resign Horford, they'll be looking to trade Millsap. We have the perfect pieces to acquire him with cheap guys like Aminu and Davis that would help them save cap space and fit their style of play. We shouldn't mind putting draft picks in play as well. If it's possible to get Millsap, then we have to try. He's a perfect 3rd option and one of, if not the best defensive PF in the league. He's also a solid 3 point shooter, so he fits perfectly next to 3 shot creators in Lillard, McCollum, and Turner.

Here's some stats:
Per 36 Stats: 18.8ppg, 10reb, 3.6asp
Percentages: 47% FGs, 32% 3pt, 76% FT,
Box Plus Mines: Offensive: 1.1, Defensive: 4.2, Total: 5.3

We have a lot of depth, but we're missing that guy in the frontcourt. That guy is Millsap. We can trade a couple players, acquire the perfect fit at PF, and still have a good bench. If it's possible, it has to be explored.

 

[theprunetang]

Should Atlanta be able to resign Horford, they'll be looking to trade Millsap. We have the perfect pieces to acquire him with cheap guys like Aminu and Davis that would help them save cap space and fit their style of play. We shouldn't mind putting draft picks in play as well. If it's possible to get Millsap, then we have to try. He's a perfect 3rd option and one of, if not the best defensive PF in the league. He's also a solid 3 point shooter, so he fits perfectly next to 3 shot creators in Lillard, McCollum, and Turner.

Here's some stats:
Per 36 Stats: 18.8ppg, 10reb, 3.6asp
Percentages: 47% FGs, 32% 3pt, 76% FT,
Box Plus Mines: Offensive: 1.1, Defensive: 4.2, Total: 5.3

We have a lot of depth, but we're missing that guy in the frontcourt. That guy is Millsap. We can trade a couple players, acquire the perfect fit at PF, and still have a good bench. If it's possible, it has to be explored.

I can't imagine it happening, but this is THE best case scenario. He would help this team more than any player that we actually have a realistic shot of getting.

 

[blazedanugz]

This is the exact move I thought of that would make me feel better.

 

[Chris Craig]

Please Neil Please

 

[Denny Crane]

Or else what?

Atlanta isn't going to give him away.

 

[Schilly]

Cue up the meltdown when it doesn't happen.

 

[theprunetang]

And I really didn't think Atlanta would be willing to trade him, but it is looking like they are trying to keep Horford after adding Dwight. Those 3 players are not going to be on the same team and stay happy. You can't start all 3 and none of them are going to be alright coming off of the bench. This is the moment to try and make a play on Millsap (who I've wanted way more than Horford from the beginning).

 

[BonesJones]

I can't imagine it happening, but this is THE best case scenario. He would help this team more than any player that we actually have a realistic shot of getting.

If it takes Davis, Aminu, the CLE 2018 pick, and our 2018 and 2020 picks, then do it. We gotta be aggressive at some point.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

If it takes Davis, Aminu, the CLE 2018 pick, and our 2018 and 2020 picks, then do it. We gotta be aggressive at some point.

Lol what? 3 first round picks? Thats what the Nets do

 

[riverman]

With Howard and Bazemore and maybe Horford eating up their cap, they would love to have Aminu, Davis, Plumlee or some rookie contracts we have..Layman, Connaughton..and if we could get Millsap, they might throw in a Kyle Korver as well..they need youth, we need experienced vets

 

[theprunetang]

We would

If it takes Davis, Aminu, the CLE 2018 pick, and our 2018 and 2020 picks, then do it. We gotta be aggressive at some point.

Agree. Is that too much salary for Atlanta to take back though? I mean they are allegedly shopping Millsap to make monetary space for Horford. I am not good with sports math.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Lol what? 3 first round picks? Thats what the Nets do

And look where it got them. I want Milsap but not for 3 firsts.

 

[theprunetang]

And look where it got them. I want Milsap but not for 3 firsts.

Yeah, but the Nets did it for washed up players. Milsap is in his prime.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Yeah, but the Nets did it for washed up players. Milsap is in his prime.

Milsap certainly isn't washed up but I would be willing to bet last season will be his best statistically from here on out. So on the downslope but slowly. I like the dude a lot. He is literally the perfect fit but 3 firsts is like superstar package. Did Den even get that on the Melo trade?

 

[Denny Crane]

They could probably get a better player than anyone we have outside of Lillard for him. They would be nuts to trade him for role players.

If they're so concerned about pinching pennies, they wouldn't have signed Howard in the first place.

Looks more like they are trying to not become irrelevant again.

 

[KingSpeed]

Millsap or a new and improved Vonleh. Whichever.

 

[theprunetang]

They could probably get a better player than anyone we have outside of Lillard for him. They would be nuts to trade him for role players.

If they're so concerned about pinching pennies, they wouldn't have signed Howard in the first place.

Looks more like they are trying to not become irrelevant again.

This all makes sense. Why would a team want to give up a still productive Millsap? To sign Horford. If they want to keep Horford, they are going to have to trade Milsap, and they are going to have to save money in the process somehow. And even if they didn't want to trade him, they can't go into the season with Howard, Millsap, and Horford. Milsap can't start at SF, and all 3 are certain starters. Something has to give, and if Atlanta chooses Horford over Milsap (And the Howard signing made this choice inevitable), we should do whatever we can to get involved.

 

[riverman]

They could probably get a better player than anyone we have outside of Lillard for him. They would be nuts to trade him

This all makes sense. Why would a team want to give up a still productive Millsap? To sign Horford. If they want to keep Horford, they are going to have to trade Milsap, and they are going to have to save money in the process somehow. And even if they didn't want to trade him, they can't go into the season with Howard, Millsap, and Horford. Milsap can't start at SF, and all 3 are certain starters. Something has to give, and if Atlanta chooses Horford over Milsap (And the Howard signing made this choice inevitable), we should do whatever we can to get involved.

Millsap is on the block since they signed Howard and Bazemore according to Woj's circle

 

[BonesJones]

Lol what? 3 first round picks? Thats what the Nets do

The Nets don't protect them. We would protect them but that's if we exec has to give them up in the first place.

We would

Agree. Is that too much salary for Atlanta to take back though? I mean they are allegedly shopping Millsap to make monetary space for Horford. I am not good with sports math.

Not quite sure. We'd have to give up those 2 to get Millsap and keep our RFAs.

We could send a draft pick to Brooklyn for them to take on Splitter for Atlanta.

 

[Natebishop3]

I have been wanting him for months.

 

[Denny Crane]

Millsap is on the block since they signed Howard and Bazemore according to Woj's circle

Maybe, but he's worth a heck of a good player who helps them in return.

 

[BonesJones]

This would be my starting offer:

Atlanta Gets: Ed Davis, Al-Farouq Aminu, 2019 POR 1st
Brooklyn Gets: Tiago Splitter, Tim Hardaway, 2018 CLE 1st
Portland Gets: Paul Millsap

Lillard /
McCollum / Crabbe
Turner / Harkless
Millsap / Vonleh
Plumlee / Leonard

If you don't want to play Vonleh you could play Harkless/Meyers more minutes at the 4.

We'd have assets in Meyers, Crabbe, Harkless, Plumlee, Vonleh, and our 2017 1st Round pick that could be packaged in any combination to trade for another star mid season should a good deal come along

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The Nets don't protect them. We would protect them but that's if we exec has to give them up in the first place.
Not quite sure. We'd have to give up those 2 to get Millsap and keep our RFAs.

We could send a draft pick to Brooklyn for them to take on Splitter for Atlanta.

I'd rather renounce Leonard than send Davis, and I'm sure Atlanta doesn't want all that salary back anyway. Aminu and both 2018 picks is probably the most reasonable offer from our end. With his long cheap declining contract and his playoff performance, Chief could be in demand.

 

[BonesJones]

Maybe, but he's worth a heck of a good player who helps them in return.

I don't think there's a player out there thats better that will help them save money and is available.

Theyre obviously trying to win now (Dwight, Horford, Korver) and build for the future (Schroeder, Bazemore, Prince, Bazemore). Our trade helps them do both.

 

[BonesJones]

I'd rather renounce Leonard than send Davis, and I'm sure Atlanta doesn't want all that salary back anyway. Aminu and both 2018 picks is probably the most reasonable offer from our end.

That's another possibility if they don't care about Davis.

 

[theprunetang]

This would be my starting offer:

Atlanta Gets: Ed Davis, Al-Farouq Aminu, 2019 POR 1st
Brooklyn Gets: Tiago Splitter, Tim Hardaway, 2018 CLE 1st
Portland Gets: Paul Millsap

Lillard /
McCollum / Crabbe
Turner / Harkless
Millsap / Vonleh
Plumlee / Leonard

If you don't want to play Vonleh you could play Harkless/Meyers more minutes at the 4.

We'd have assets in Meyers, Crabbe, Harkless, Plumlee, Vonleh, and our 2017 1st Round pick that could be packaged in any combination to trade for another star mid season should a good deal come along

I am sure this will never happen, but this is sexy as hell. I think Atlanta, if they have to trade Milsap to make room financially, will probably be looking to get a player or two on rookie pay scales. That way they are setting themselves up for the "now", but reloading the coffers for the future as well. Smart management.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I am sure this will never happen, but this is sexy as hell. I think Atlanta, if they have to trade Milsap to make room financially, will probably be looking to get a player or two on rookie pay scales. That way they are setting themselves up for the "now", but reloading the coffers for the future as well. Smart management.

You think they'd rather take Vonleh and Plumlee instead of Aminu?

 

[Denny Crane]

Cue up the meltdown when it doesn't happen.

LOL

 

[BonesJones]

The only competition I see in the trade market for Millsap is Boston. However, their demands have been very high/they haven't wanted to give up too much.

 

[theprunetang]

You think they'd rather take Vonleh and Plumlee instead of Aminu?

Actually yes. I don't think they need Aminu with the rest of the guys they have on their roster, even with his totally reasonable contact. I think it would take Plumlee, Vonleh, Cleveland pick and a future unprotected first from us.