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Natebishop3 said:
It's just not realistic.

Varejao makes 9 million.
Hawes makes 6 million.

Blatche is cheap but I doubt New Jersey trades him.
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I think Hawes is the best choice and probably most realistic, problem is he's been playing so well he might cost more (CJ) than we want to give. If he could be had for Leonard and one or two of Freeland/Crabbe/Barton/Claver I'd do it in a heartbeat
 
http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

The Heat (14-5) have a glut of big men and have been looking into trading one for a guard, or to clear a roster spot so they can sign a player later. Center-forward Joel Anthony, who has played in just five games this season, is one of the players who may be available.
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Blazinaway said:
I think Hawes is the best choice and probably most realistic, problem is he's been playing so well he might cost more (CJ) than we want to give. If he could be had for Leonard and one or two of Freeland/Crabbe/Barton/Claver I'd do it in a heartbeat
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Pretend you're a Sixers fan for a moment ... How do you feel about that deal now?
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's just not realistic.

Varejao makes 9 million.
Hawes makes 6 million.

Blatche is cheap but I doubt New Jersey trades him.
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Freeland, CJ and Claver for Varejao works from a cap standpoint. So does Freeland and CJ for Hawes. Realistic? How the heck would I know? If you had told me going in that Olshey could have gotten Robinson and Lopez for what he did, I'd have said you were crazy. Teams looking to tank may do all kinds of things this year that we wouldn't ordinarily expect.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Pretend you're a Sixers fan for a moment ... How do you feel about that deal now?
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Hey I get it if you actually understand my post, I said it would likely "cost more (CJ and filler) then we want to give." Many if not most Sixer fans want to tank and Hawes is not helping the cause as an expiring contract who will be a UFA next summer. As always the key Q is each sides perception of what "value" is appropriate.
 
e_blazer said:
Freeland, CJ and Claver for Varejao works from a cap standpoint. So does Freeland and CJ for Hawes. Realistic? How the heck would I know? If you had told me going in that Olshey could have gotten Robinson and Lopez for what he did, I'd have said you were crazy. Teams looking to tank may do all kinds of things this year that we wouldn't ordinarily expect.
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IMO CJ and filler will get you Hawes, they are looking for young assets or picks and to tank this yr, do we want to give up CJ for an expiring UFA is the key Q?
 
Boise Blazer said:
http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm
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The Heat (14-5) have a glut of big men and have been looking into trading one for a guard, or to clear a roster spot so they can sign a player later. Center-forward Joel Anthony, who has played in just five games this season, is one of the players who may be available.
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A 6'9" center-forward is not an answer to any question I have about the Blazers' existing lineup.
 
Blazinaway said:
IMO CJ and filler will get you Hawes, they are looking for young assets or picks and to tank this yr, do we want to give up CJ for an expiring UFA is the key Q?
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CJ is coming of a (re)broken foot. No other GM is going to touch him until he can get on the court and remain injury free for awhile. Even then I don't see how another team doesn't trump that offer.
 
Nikolokolus said:
CJ is coming of a (re)broken foot. No other GM is going to touch him until he can get on the court and remain injury free for awhile. Even then I don't see how another team doesn't trump that offer.
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So, this is the usual game around here where people throw out trade ideas and other people say that they would never happen? The NBA is a weird place where trades that would never happen end up happening quite frequently.
 
Nikolokolus said:
CJ is coming of a (re)broken foot. No other GM is going to touch him until he can get on the court and remain injury free for awhile. Even then I don't see how another team doesn't trump that offer.
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like who and what will they offer? CJ was a highly regarded pick. Give him a month to play a bit and be healthy and any worries will go away quickly, that's my view FWIW
 
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e_blazer said:
So, this is the usual game around here where people throw out trade ideas and other people say that they would never happen? The NBA is a weird place where trades that would never happen end up happening quite frequently.
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Sure trades happen and sometimes they surprise you, but this is not a trade that looks reasonable on paper. But fuck it, I probably should have said it looks awesome and I can't wait to see it happen. Everybody would be a lot happier I'm sure.
 
e_blazer said:
So, this is the usual game around here where people throw out trade ideas and other people say that they would never happen? The NBA is a weird place where trades that would never happen end up happening quite frequently.
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yep, who actually thought we'd be able to get Lopez and Trob for the cheap prices we did?
 
e_blazer said:
So, this is the usual game around here where people throw out trade ideas and other people say that they would never happen? The NBA is a weird place where trades that would never happen end up happening quite frequently.
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It just depends on the team and what their motivation is. We got Lopez because New Orleans was trying to clear cap space for Tyreke Evans. Philly might be willing to move Hawes to tank, but how much do you want to give up for Hawes? I'm very hesitant to deal CJ for someone like Hawes. I think it's important to keep some of our young talent, while still having vets and competing. Otherwise you look like the Nets, who blew up their future for the now, and yet they're one of the worst teams in the league.
 
Blazinaway said:
like who and what will they offer? CJ was a highly regarded pick. Give him a month to play a bit and be healthy and any worries will go away quickly, that's my view FWIW
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The tenth player picked in what many are considering one of the worst drafts of all time. He might end up great, but right now he's nothing but a string of question marks around the league.
 
Nikolokolus said:
The tenth player picked in what many are considering one of the worst drafts of all time. He might end up great, but right now he's nothing but a string of question marks around the league.
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and Hawes is an expiring UFA on a team that wants to tank so who knows?
 
In the trade machine, Hawes for Freeland, Leonard, and Claver works. Would they go for it? Who the hell knows. I didn't think they'd trade Holiday, but they did.
 
Natebishop3 said:
In the trade machine, Hawes for Freeland, Leonard, and Claver works. Would they go for it? Who the hell knows. I didn't think they'd trade Holiday, but they did.
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I don't think that is enuf, but if we did not want to trade CJ I think they "might" go for Leonard and Trob
 
Blazinaway said:
I don't think that is enuf, but if we did not want to trade CJ I think they "might" go for Leonard and Trob
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Just doesn't seem worth it to me. He's a UFA after the season. Not worth sending out two guys that I think have very bright futures.
 
Philly did trade one of the best young PG's in the league for the opportunity to gamble on the injured Noel. So I am guessing that a Hawes for CJ trade is not out of the question.

I would not want the Blazers to do it though.
 
Can't remember if he was mentioned in the thread already. but Taj Gibson also a possibility. Not one I love a ton because of his contract, and also not wanting to give up on Robinson, but a Robinson-Leonard deal I believe works financially for Gibson, gives us a really good backup 4, albeit too expensive for me. And Chicago clears his long salary off their books in what is likely a lost season.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Just doesn't seem worth it to me. He's a UFA after the season. Not worth sending out two guys that I think have very bright futures.
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I like Trob and agree with a possible bright future, I do not feel the same about Meyers
 
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