Webster is played great last night

[magnifier661]

At least from what I saw, he seems very active on the defensive end. He still needs to work on those "out of control dribbling" trying to create, but I love seeing him take the defensive role to a new level. How was he in the last 4 game besides last night? I didn't watch them.

 

[PapaG]

If that was "great", then I don't want to see what "bad" is.

The Blazer's best defensive unit was Blake/Bayless/Roy/LMA/Przy, which happened to be the group that played most of the 4th quarter together.

Webster didn't hurt the team last night, so that was a plus.

 

[magnifier661]

If that was "great", then I don't want to see what "bad" is.

The Blazer's best defensive unit was Blake/Bayless/Roy/LMA/Przy, which happened to be the group that played most of the 4th quarter together.

Webster didn't hurt the team last night, so that was a plus.

He is not a star. I already accepted that years ago. All I want from him is to keep a body on his man, hit the three and help on D. He did that well last night. At least enough to disrupt the flow of the other team's offense.

 

[PapaG]

He is not a star. I already accepted that years ago. All I want from him is to keep a body on his man, hit the three and help on D. He did that well last night. At least enough to disrupt the flow of the other team's offense.

I can live with that. I liked that he hit a couple of 3s. His shot looked great on those two, but the corner airball was a bit perplexing.

 

[magnifier661]

I can live with that. I liked that he hit a couple of 3s. His shot looked great on those two, but the corner airball was a bit perplexing.

I'm just saying that Webster isn't a player that will be pissed playing off the bench. I think once Batum comes back, it will be nice having those two anchor the 3 spot. They will frustrate the hell out of teams. Webster should have been picked about 17th-25th his rookie year. That's how i rate his quality. Still a fan of his.

 

[hasoos]

I am telling you it is all becaues I said he was unfit to play in the NBA 3 days ago. He is just doing it to spite me!

 

[Buzz Killington]

If that was "great", then I don't want to see what "bad" is.

B+?

 

[hasoos]

Great for Webster=Average NBA player play.

 

[Pinwheel1]

His form (Which is usually perfect) looks way off to me. It looks like he is shooting the 3 ball with a bit of a hitch to it. Hopefully it comes around quickly. Like tomorrow.

 

[maxiep]

B+?

I was going to post "A good, solid B+", but you beat me to it.

 

[Luther]

If that was "great", then I don't want to see what "bad" is.

The Blazer's best defensive unit was Blake/Bayless/Roy/LMA/Przy, which happened to be the group that played most of the 4th quarter together.

Webster didn't hurt the team last night, so that was a plus.

Webster rarely "hurts" the team. He puts the most energy into defense out of anyone on the team...Right now he is easily our best perimeter defender.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

He's so mediocre it's sickening to think we took him in the top-10.

I honestly think we missed the boat on Jonas Jerebko, a second round steal.

He's that flex SF/PF we could really use right now. A legit 6'10" and athletic. A pure hustle player who looks like he'll develop into a very reliable shooter.

 

[Nikolokolus]

If that was "great", then I don't want to see what "bad" is.

The Blazer's best defensive unit was Blake/Bayless/Roy/LMA/Przy, which happened to be the group that played most of the 4th quarter together.

Webster didn't hurt the team last night, so that was a plus.

Seconded. He played great compared to what he's been putting out on the floor for most of the season, but this was purely average NBA starter material last night (both offensively and defensively).

At this point I'll take it.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Webster rarely "hurts" the team. He puts the most energy into defense out of anyone on the team...Right now he is easily our best perimeter defender.

I'd say that's more damning toward the rest of the team than a positive ... he's not good, average sure, but not good.

 

[craigehlo]

I must have been watching a different game. Aside from a monster dunk, he was pretty mediocre.

Although was that the first game of the season where Martell didn't take off from the wing and get whistled for a blatant travel? Seems like he's always good for one or two of those per game. Just like Blake stepping out of bounds on a 3-pointer.

 

[hasoos]

I must have been watching a different game. Aside from a monster dunk, he was pretty mediocre.

Although was that the first game of the season where Martell didn't take off from the wing and get whistled for a blatant travel? Seems like he's always good for one or two of those per game. Just like Blake stepping out of bounds on a 3-pointer.

OH don't get me wrong, Martell made his fair share of bad plays last night. The difference was he played with some effort, and actually scored some points, where a few games ago, he would have just stunk it up all the way around.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

A person I was sitting next to at the game said that Maretell is the lowest rated starting SF in the league.

I didn't feel like getting into it with him so I accepted the statement and moved on . . . but has anyone else heard this or know where a stat like this would come from?

 

[hasoos]

A person I was sitting next to at the game said that Maretell is the lowest rated starting SF in the league.

I didn't feel like getting into it with him so I accepted the statement and moved on . . . but has anyone else heard this or know where a stat like this would come from?

Last I looked on CBS sports player rankings he was 36th, but for some reason he is listed as a SG instead of a small forward. Put it this way. Some teams have 3 small forwards better than our starter.

 

[Kaydow]

I used to not be able to talk about Martell without using conjunctions. If he gets his feet set. When he isn't forcing things. After the airball.

I think we just need to accept that this is the finished product. He does some things that suck you into thinking he can be a good, and he does a lot more to suggest he doesn't get it. In his 4th full season, he still looks like a rookie most nights. It's finally sinking in that he isn't going to get better. So when I consider last night's game, it was typical Martell. He made a couple of 3's, airballed another, grazed the side of the backboard on yet another, had a monster dunk, missed a box out and gave up a layup . . . all things I'm accustomed to seeing from him. Nothing more, nothing less . . .

 

[hasoos]

If there is one piece of knowledge I have learned over the years, it is that project players rarely turn out to be worth a damn. When they draft a guy and all they have going for them is that they are athletic and young, you should pretty much steer clear of those players. The Shawn Kemps are far and few between.

 

[Nikolokolus]

A person I was sitting next to at the game said that Maretell is the lowest rated starting SF in the league.

I didn't feel like getting into it with him so I accepted the statement and moved on . . . but has anyone else heard this or know where a stat like this would come from?

Well his PER is 37th out of 55 for all small forwards according to Hollinger's player rankings page (insider only) http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?sort=per&qual=true&pos=sf&seasonType=2, but perhaps even more damning is the fact that his True shooting percentage also ranks 37th out of all small forwards at 50% which is horrendous for a shooting specialist, whose main job is to take and hit threes off of the catch.

I'd love to see if KP could swing a trade for Maruice Evans from Atlanta who seems to be shooting very well, but isn't getting a lot of minutes. He's no Shane Battier, but for 2.5 million a year he'd be a helluva upgrade over Martell and would be useful as a longer term backup to Nic
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=1031

 

[magnifier661]

I'd say that's more damning toward the rest of the team than a positive ... he's not good, average sure, but not good.

I would have to disagree with you on that one. Webster is one of the only players that stay on his man with his body. Others play off their man, while Webs is in their grill. Disappointment? Yes for a 6th pick, but he's still our best perimeter player.

Also, perimeter defense was one of the things we lacked the most last season. Once Batum and Webs become that 1-2 tandem that many have guessed, our 3 spot will be solid. I think we are more worried about who is going to give Aldridge a break in the post? He's the only low post scorer we have on the team now. That's the player(s) we need. Someone that was able to get some easy buckets or trips to the foul line.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I would have to disagree with you on that one. Webster is one of the only players that stay on his man with his body. Others play off their man, while Webs is in their grill. Disappointment? Yes for a 6th pick, but he's still our best perimeter player.

Also, perimeter defense was one of the things we lacked the most last season. Once Batum and Webs become that 1-2 tandem that many have guessed, our 3 spot will be solid. I think we are more worried about who is going to give Aldridge a break in the post? He's the only low post scorer we have on the team now. That's the player(s) we need. Someone that was able to get some easy buckets or trips to the foul line.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but we must be watching different games. Martell's focus on defense is like a yo-yo, on some plays he shows a lot of aggressiveness and does a nice job of contesting shots but on just as many he's too far off of shooters or doesn't rotate or provide weak side help, and his lateral quickness against quick wings isn't great so he either backs off and concedes the jumper or he gets burned if he plays them too tight. About the only thing I see him do at high level (for a three) is contest shots as a weak side shot blocker.

 

[magnifier661]

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but we must be watching different games. Martell's focus on defense is like a yo-yo, on some plays he shows a lot of aggressiveness and does a nice job of contesting shots but on just as many he's too far off of shooters or doesn't rotate or provide weak side help, and his lateral quickness against quick wings isn't great so he either backs off and concedes the jumper or he gets burned if he plays them too tight. About the only thing I see him do at high level consistently (for a three) on defense is contest shots as a weak side shot blocker.

Yeah I think we have to agree to disagree on that one. I've seen more of Webster putting his body on the 3's, especially off the post entry passes. He's pretty good at making it very uncomfortable for the player to be in his sweet spots. But hey, we are two separate people.

 

[maxiep]

I used to not be able to talk about Martell without using conjunctions. If he gets his feet set. When he isn't forcing things. After the airball.

I think we just need to accept that this is the finished product. He does some things that suck you into thinking he can be a good, and he does a lot more to suggest he doesn't get it. In his 4th full season, he still looks like a rookie most nights. It's finally sinking in that he isn't going to get better. So when I consider last night's game, it was typical Martell. He made a couple of 3's, airballed another, grazed the side of the backboard on yet another, had a monster dunk, missed a box out and gave up a layup . . . all things I'm accustomed to seeing from him. Nothing more, nothing less . . .

This post is exactly what I think about Webs. Perfect. Repped.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

How 'bout tonight?

Gramps...