Weiner Tweets a Pic of His Weener? (1 Viewer)

[julius]

When you've lost Ed Schultz...

http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2011/06/ed-schultz-to-moonbat-guests-you-people.html

Joan Walsh and Bill Press are pathetic. As long as you have a "D" next to your name, they'll defend you to the death.

Speaking of Ed Schultz, did he ever return to MSNBC after his cockup?

 

[Ed O]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Vitter This guy seems familiar, like he did something, but I can't remember what... I know he's been in office for a while. Any ideas? It couldn't have been as bad as sending pictures to women.

If you're going to take shots at Republicans, could you pick something that's happened in the last decade, at least?

Ed O.

 

[PapaG]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Vitter This guy seems familiar, like he did something, but I can't remember what... I know he's been in office for a while. Any ideas? It couldn't have been as bad as sending pictures to women.

That happened 7 years prior to the public knowing, and he had told his wife about it long before his name was released. If your point was to show how a real man should own up to a mistake prior to being forced to do it, then thanks, Mission Accomplished. Vitter had owned up to his errors long before the public knew about it, and he didn't go on TV and lie about it while allowing the "right-wing" to be blamed for his own perversion.

PS - Watch less Rachel Maddow. It's embarrassing how Weiner played her during this debacle, and yet she still defends a guy who boldly lied into her face on national TV. What a fucking shill Maddow is.

 

[BrianFromWA]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Vitter This guy seems familiar, like he did something, but I can't remember what... I know he's been in office for a while. Any ideas? It couldn't have been as bad as sending pictures to women.

I'm a bit confused...is anyone here saying that Weiner should resign b/c he tweeted bad pictures, or b/c he stood in front of every camera available, boldly lied about it for over a week, and only admitted to it after someone had undeniable proof?

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/12/nyregion/pelosi-calls-on-weiner-to-resign.html?_r=2&hp

The House Democratic leader, Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, spoke to Mr. Weiner on the phone Saturday morning and, notably, released her statement calling for his resignation after he told her of his plan to get treatment and to take the leave. Mr. Weiner received a similar phone call from Representative Steve Israel of New York, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, urging him to resign.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

he is a fucking liar, a fucking stupid liar

 

[julius]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/12/nyregion/pelosi-calls-on-weiner-to-resign.html?_r=2&hp

The House Democratic leader, Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, spoke to Mr. Weiner on the phone Saturday morning and, notably, released her statement calling for his resignation after he told her of his plan to get treatment and to take the leave. Mr. Weiner received a similar phone call from Representative Steve Israel of New York, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, urging him to resign.

did any prominent Republicans (well, I guess Pelosi is a prominent one) call for any republicans who were caught in a sex scandal, to resign? Publicly I mean.

 

[Denny Crane]

did any prominent Republicans (well, I guess Pelosi is a prominent one) call for any republicans who were caught in a sex scandal, to resign? Publicly I mean.

I'm pretty sure they resign on their own right away. Like Bob Livingston (google him).

What may be more interesting is what the Democrats knew and when.

 

[julius]

I'm pretty sure they resign on their own right away. Like Bob Livingston (google him).

What may be more interesting is what the Democrats knew and when.

It's embarrassing just how much of a "boys club" the government is. They know stuff and don't do anything about it until it benefits them to do something about it.

But it's also embarrassing how people freak out over relatively stupid stuff. I don't care that he sends pictures of his wang to someone. That's not illegal.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I care that he lied about it. I care if he tried to get his staffers to cover it up. And I care if he can't fulfill his duties b/c he "needs to grow as a husband and man".

I know it may not matter to most, but the trends of "there's no right and wrong, and no accountability for actions as long as it makes you feel good" make me sick. If he wants to tweet pictures of his dong, more power to him. Then he can either stand up in front of people and say "hell yeah, I tweet pictures of my dong! Who the hell cares? It doesn't affect my job!" and take whatever consequences come from that, whether it's "nothing" or "your constituents are voting you out next election". If someone wants to cheat on his wife with a dude, that's between you and your partners. But if your co-workers make you resign, then you have no one to blame but yourself.

No one's perfect, and I'm certainly not. But there are standards of conduct that are required for any leadership position. And if you want the position, you have to fulfill them. We've talked about this over teachers at Christian schools and military officers making stupid videos and pastors leaving churches, but now that it's a member of Congress, who cares? Well, as someone whose promotions are reviewed by Congress, I do.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Ethics rules, if reasonably drafted and reliably enforced,
increase the likelihood that legislators (and other officials) will make decisions and
policies on the basis of the merits of issues, rather than on the basis of factors (such
as personal gain) that should be irrelevant.

Congressional Ethics Reform: Hearings Before the Bipartisan Task Force on Ethics, U.S.
House of Representatives, 101st Cong., 1st Sess. 113 (1989)

ANY PERSON IN GOVERNMENT SERVICE SHOULD:

I. Put loyalty to the highest moral principles above loyalty to persons, party, or Government department... Uphold these principles, ever conscious that public office is a public trust.

House Document 103, 86th Congress, 1st Session - Passed by the Congress of the United States on July 11, 1958

Having a set of ethics that shall be adhered to is important for any public leadership position. If one doesn't want to abide by them, one doesn't have to. But you can't maintain your position without doing so. Where was the outcry for a Navy Captain getting fired for a series of videos in poor taste that a) he admitted to creating, b) were not meant for personal gain, and c) were not degrading to his performance or duty? Was it because he was just a guy who made a mistake in poor taste that no one cared about? I mean, he only is in charge of an aircraft carrier and 6000 people and billions in equipment, after serving with distinction for 20+ years. Or General McChrystal, who was forced to retire b/c he had the audacity to tell Rolling Stone that he thought Biden and Eikenberry were idiots?

I still think government service is something special, and not for any immoral and unethical person lacking in basic integrity to abuse as they see fit. Good riddance. I still care.

 

[PapaG]

did any prominent Republicans (well, I guess Pelosi is a prominent one) call for any republicans who were caught in a sex scandal, to resign? Publicly I mean.

The last one to resign was Chris Lee. He resigned a few hours after his shirtless Craigslist photos were made public.

Keep making this a partisan issue, though. Weiner is the face of the Democratic Party as long as he clings to his office.

 

[barfo]

If he wants to tweet pictures of his dong, more power to him. Then he can either stand up in front of people and say "hell yeah, I tweet pictures of my dong! Who the hell cares? It doesn't affect my job!"

That would have been a terrific response. I have yet to see any politician respond in that manner to getting busted for sex, however. Well, any American politician, anyway.

barfo

 

[julius]

The last one to resign was Chris Lee. He resigned a few hours after his shirtless Craigslist photos were made public.

Keep making this a partisan issue, though. Weiner is the face of the Democratic Party as long as he clings to his office.

I'm not making it a partisan issue. But can you explain to us how you saying "Weiner is the face of the Democratic Party" isn't "making it a partisan issue"?

 

[julius]

I care that he lied about it. I care if he tried to get his staffers to cover it up.

I guess this is where you and I differ (and I would bet, party aside, where L vs C's differ too).

If this had been Joe the Plumber, I wouldn't care. If it had been you, I wouldn't care. it's not illegal to be a fucking moron.

Let HIS people in HIS district decide if they want him out or not.

I know it may not matter to most, but the trends of "there's no right and wrong, and no accountability for actions as long as it makes you feel good" make me sick. If he wants to tweet pictures of his dong, more power to him. Then he can either stand up in front of people and say "hell yeah, I tweet pictures of my dong! Who the hell cares? It doesn't affect my job!" and take whatever consequences come from that, whether it's "nothing" or "your constituents are voting you out next election". If someone wants to cheat on his wife with a dude, that's between you and your partners. But if your co-workers make you resign, then you have no one to blame but yourself.

If he did something illegal and lied about it, I would care. I just have far more important things to worry about than whether or not a politician does something stupid. I'd rather be against his policies than against his penis.

No one's perfect, and I'm certainly not. But there are standards of conduct that are required for any leadership position. And if you want the position, you have to fulfill them. We've talked about this over teachers at Christian schools and military officers making stupid videos and pastors leaving churches, but now that it's a member of Congress, who cares? Well, as someone whose promotions are reviewed by Congress, I do.

If you do something illegal, that's one thing. Is it illegal to send pictures of your dick to someone?

If he sent a picture of his dick to that underage girl, he should be thrown in jail. If he sent it to some college aged woman, or had cyber-sex with some (imho, stupid) women, he's just a fucking pervo.

 

[maxiep]

I care that he lied about it. I care if he tried to get his staffers to cover it up. And I care if he can't fulfill his duties b/c he "needs to grow as a husband and man".

I know it may not matter to most, but the trends of "there's no right and wrong, and no accountability for actions as long as it makes you feel good" make me sick. If he wants to tweet pictures of his dong, more power to him. Then he can either stand up in front of people and say "hell yeah, I tweet pictures of my dong! Who the hell cares? It doesn't affect my job!" and take whatever consequences come from that, whether it's "nothing" or "your constituents are voting you out next election". If someone wants to cheat on his wife with a dude, that's between you and your partners. But if your co-workers make you resign, then you have no one to blame but yourself.

No one's perfect, and I'm certainly not. But there are standards of conduct that are required for any leadership position. And if you want the position, you have to fulfill them. We've talked about this over teachers at Christian schools and military officers making stupid videos and pastors leaving churches, but now that it's a member of Congress, who cares? Well, as someone whose promotions are reviewed by Congress, I do.

I heard a Congressman (who served) float the idea of creating a "conduct unbecoming" kind of thing for US Congressmen.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I heard a Congressman (who served) float the idea of creating a "conduct unbecoming" kind of thing for US Congressmen.

yeah but then the liberal media will just exploit that by digging up dirt on all the evil republicans and force them all to resign

 

[julius]

I heard a Congressman (who served) float the idea of creating a "conduct unbecoming" kind of thing for US Congressmen.

So basically, the 3 of them who are left control the country.

 

[maxiep]

yeah but then the liberal media will just exploit that by digging up dirt on all the evil republicans and force them all to resign

That's cool. If you're guilty of misdeeds, then you shouldn't have the honor of serving in the Congress. I couldn't care less about ideology.

 

[Denny Crane]

Congressional Ethics Reform: Hearings Before the Bipartisan Task Force on Ethics, U.S.
House of Representatives, 101st Cong., 1st Sess. 113 (1989)

House Document 103, 86th Congress, 1st Session - Passed by the Congress of the United States on July 11, 1958

Having a set of ethics that shall be adhered to is important for any public leadership position. If one doesn't want to abide by them, one doesn't have to. But you can't maintain your position without doing so. Where was the outcry for a Navy Captain getting fired for a series of videos in poor taste that a) he admitted to creating, b) were not meant for personal gain, and c) were not degrading to his performance or duty? Was it because he was just a guy who made a mistake in poor taste that no one cared about? I mean, he only is in charge of an aircraft carrier and 6000 people and billions in equipment, after serving with distinction for 20+ years. Or General McChrystal, who was forced to retire b/c he had the audacity to tell Rolling Stone that he thought Biden and Eikenberry were idiots?

I still think government service is something special, and not for any immoral and unethical person lacking in basic integrity to abuse as they see fit. Good riddance. I still care.

You bring up the real problem for Weiner. Conduct not befitting a congressman.

On the other hand, it is what I expect from a congressman.

 

[Ed O]

You bring up the real problem for Weiner. Conduct not befitting a congressman.

On the other hand, it is what I expect from a congressman.

Most are regularly engaging in conduct benefitting a congressman.

Ed O.

 

[Eastoff]

I'm pretty sure they resign on their own right away. Like Bob Livingston (google him).

What may be more interesting is what the Democrats knew and when.

Hey Denny, I don't know if you have me on ignore, but I believe you skipped my post on this page.

 

[Eastoff]

The last one to resign was Chris Lee. He resigned a few hours after his shirtless Craigslist photos were made public.

Keep making this a partisan issue, though. Weiner is the face of the Democratic Party as long as he clings to his office.

Well I'm happy to have him as the face of the democratic party if the only dirt on him is that he sent naked photos and texted with women, then lied to cover it up. That guy is AWESOME for all of his political stances and we need more congressmen like him!

 

[BrianFromWA]

and that's what's wrong with America.

 

[Denny Crane]

Hey Denny, I don't know if you have me on ignore, but I believe you skipped my post on this page.

Huh?

Congress writes it's own rules. They state that the members must live up to certain ethical standards and moral conduct. These things override past election results. The House can expel him, if they choose to, but it's rare. The bastards let serious shit slide with a slap on the wrist (see Rangel).

In this case, your party's leader (among many others) have called upon him to resign, and Pelosi has started an ethics committee investigation.

I can think of several republicans who resigned the day their issues became public, and fewer who fought it. I can think of democrats who choose to fight it and refuse to resign - most recently Rangel and Maxine Waters - but can't think of any who resigned without a fight.

If that's not the answer to your question, then rephrase it.

 

[MrJayremmie]

Well I'm happy to have him as the face of the democratic party if the only dirt on him is that he sent naked photos and texted with women, then lied to cover it up. That guy is AWESOME for all of his political stances and we need more congressmen like him!

Hmm, well there are plenty more with views like him. I don't think you want someone you lied to the American people, and mainly his constituents as the face of any party. (Insert presidential joke here)

 

[Eastoff]

Hmm, well there are plenty more with views like him. I don't think you want someone you lied to the American people, and mainly his constituents as the face of any party. (Insert presidential joke here)

Perhaps you're right, but have you seen some of the stuff he stands up for?

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[maxiep]

Well I'm happy to have him as the face of the democratic party if the only dirt on him is that he sent naked photos and texted with women, then lied to cover it up. That guy is AWESOME for all of his political stances and we need more congressmen like him!

He is one of the leaders of a Party that desires more control over your life. It looks like he has basic problems running his own. Do you really think that he's the best person to promote the notion that you should cede decisions about your life to the likes of him?

 

[Eastoff]

He is one of the leaders of a Party that desires more control over your life. It looks like he has basic problems running his own. Do you really think that he's the best person to promote the notion that you should cede decisions about your life to the likes of him?

Wait, his problem was with his sex life. Last time I checked, the republicans are the ones that want to be involved in my sex life.

 

[maxiep]

Wait, his problem was with his sex life. Last time I checked, the republicans are the ones that want to be involved in my sex life.

So, your argument is that because the Democrats aren't preaching sexual morality (abstenence, fidelity, adoption over abortion), that they should be held to no standards whatsoever? What two or more people choose to consentually do to one another is none of my concern. That doesn't mean I cheat on my wife or seek online dalliances with young women, some of whom are underage. It speaks to a moral defect, IMO. And we haven't even begun to discuss how smoothly and convincingly he lied to simply try to avoid embarrassment.

I'm reminded of the Seinfeld when Jerry answers the phone and George comes out of the bathroom with his pants around his ankles screaming "Vandelay! Say Vandelay!". He then trips and falls. Jerry looks down at him and says disdainfully, "So you want to be my latex salesman." I look at the likes of Anthony Weiner and say, "So you want to control my health care."