Weird (and Troubling?) Andre Miller Fact

[PapaG]

Of the Top 20 players in assists in NBA/ABA history, Miller is the only one who has never led a team to a win in a playoff series.

Reggie Theus, at #22, is the next in line without a playoff victory.

Going through the Top 50, Miller and Theus are still the only two to never win a playoff series.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_career.html

 

[Driew]

It's easy to guard a player when they have no three point shot.

 

[Pokemanzdood]

It's easy to guard a player when they have no three point shot.

Better start Patty then.

 

[HailBlazers]

It's easy to guard a player when they have no three point shot.

He Had Two Last Night.

I'd say the fact is more based on him playing for bad teams than him being the contributing factor.

 

[Minstrel]

Of the Top 20 players in assists in NBA/ABA history, Miller is the only one who has never led a team to a win in a playoff series.

Reggie Theus, at #22, is the next in line without a playoff victory.

Going through the Top 50, Miller and Theus are still the only two to never win a playoff series.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_career.html

Troubling fact: Nate McMillan has never won a playoff series as Portland Trailblazers coach. This is just a fact. I'm not making any conclusions. But it is worrisome, this fact which is factual. I mean, I'm just facting some factual facts here.

 

[Natebishop3]

is back and in full effect! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh ya boyeeeee!

 

[Minstrel]

Why are you being so negative PapaG? I have to laugh at so-called fans creating threads designed to rip players who have been major contributors for the team. Miller has a 24.2 PER so far in this year's playoffs. But your M.O. has always been an Andre Miller Basher. I guess if you get your jollies bashing Portland Trail Blazers...

 

[Wheels]

It's easy to guard a player when they have no three point shot.

maybe easIER but not necessarily easy. Miller has not been around as long as he has because he is easy to guard.

 

[Minstrel]

It's easy to guard a player when they have no three point shot.

Absolutely. Once the league figures out that Miller has no three-point shot, they'll start preventing him from driving to the rim for layups, free throws and assists.

 

[Wheels]

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[oldguy]

Of the Top 20 players in assists in NBA/ABA history, Miller is the only one who has never led a team to a win in a playoff series.

Reggie Theus, at #22, is the next in line without a playoff victory.

Going through the Top 50, Miller and Theus are still the only two to never win a playoff series.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_career.html

Do you still think the team should have waived Dre at the trade deadline?

Go Blazers

 

[Natebishop3]

Why are you being so negative PapaG? I have to laugh at so-called fans creating threads designed to rip players who have been major contributors for the team. Miller has a 24.2 PER so far in this year's playoffs. But your M.O. has always been an Andre Miller Basher. I guess if you get your jollies bashing Portland Trail Blazers...

I'm just wondering if he is crying right now because Dre got a deserved contract. I'll never forget that he's the guy who constantly brought up Dre's quiet behavior and his inability to communicate with Roy. THAT was weak stuff, Bgrantfan... I mean PapaG. It made me think that you aren't a true fan of the Blazers, and are more concerned about being 'right'.

 

[bnick25]

I have to agree on the Andre bashing. He is 0-6 in playoff series. Not all of those teams were bad. Denver was pretty good 5-6 years ago. If anyone is watching these games, you'll notice that many Dallas 3 point highlights have Andre Miller closing out late. He makes Jason Kidd look like an All-Star and he doesn't have half the speed of Jason Terry. Great passer, liability on defense, and no 3 point shot equals an average +/- of -6. Not a great stat for a point guard.

May as well give one of our guards who has a future some playoff experience.

 

[Natebishop3]

I have to agree on the Andre bashing. He is 0-6 in playoff series. Not all of those teams were bad. Denver was pretty good 5-6 years ago. If anyone is watching these games, you'll notice that many Dallas 3 point highlights have Andre Miller closing out late. He makes Jason Kidd look like an All-Star and he doesn't have half the speed of Jason Terry. Great passer, liability on defense, and no 3 point shot equals an average +/- of -6. Not a great stat for a point guard.

May as well give one of our guards who has a future some playoff experience.

Because our other guards are doing so well on Kidd, am I right?

 

[PapaG]

Why are you being so negative PapaG? I have to laugh at so-called fans creating threads designed to rip players who have been major contributors for the team. Miller has a 24.2 PER so far in this year's playoffs. But your M.O. has always been an Andre Miller Basher. I guess if you get your jollies bashing Portland Trail Blazers...

I pointed out a statistical fact that is relevant, now more than ever, since the team is down 2-0. How is that being negative?

He has a fantastic PER and Ortg. He also has a Drtg of 119 for the two games. Does it matter if he has a PER of 50 if the Blazers lose the series? Roy had a 26 PER in the Houston series, and was ripped for dominating the ball.

 

[PapaG]

I'm just wondering if he is crying right now because Dre got a deserved contract. I'll never forget that he's the guy who constantly brought up Dre's quiet behavior and his inability to communicate with Roy. THAT was weak stuff, Bgrantfan... I mean PapaG. It made me think that you aren't a true fan of the Blazers, and are more concerned about being 'right'.

If the Blazers don't win a playoff series with Miller, is it really a 'deserved' contract? I'm sorry I upset you the other day. People are on edge, and you seem to be leading the charge. I appreciate what Miller does, but in the playoffs, he's a proven loser.

 

[MickZagger]

Why are you being so negative PapaG? I have to laugh at so-called fans creating threads designed to rip players who have been major contributors for the team. Miller has a 24.2 PER so far in this year's playoffs. But your M.O. has always been an Andre Miller Basher. I guess if you get your jollies bashing Portland Trail Blazers...

Factual facts, can be quite facetious.

 

[Natebishop3]

If the Blazers don't win a playoff series with Miller, is it really a 'deserved' contract? I'm sorry I upset you the other day. People are on edge, and you seem to be leading the charge. I appreciate what Miller does, but in the playoffs, he's a proven loser.

I didn't realize I was upset the other day... I really need to start wearing a mood ring.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Of the Top 20 players in assists in NBA/ABA history, Miller is the only one who has never led a team to a win in a playoff series.

Reggie Theus, at #22, is the next in line without a playoff victory.

Going through the Top 50, Miller and Theus are still the only two to never win a playoff series.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_career.html

What do you do, google "Andre Miller bad stats"? Is the guy dating your ex-wife or what?

 

[Minstrel]

Does it matter if he has a PER of 50 if the Blazers lose the series?

It matters in terms of analyzing why they lost.

Roy had a 26 PER in the Houston series, and was ripped for dominating the ball.

I didn't see a single person "rip Roy" after the Houston series.

 

[Natebishop3]

It matters in terms of analyzing why they lost.



I didn't see a single person "rip Roy" after the Houston series.

Nope, I was too busy ripping apart Blake.

 

[MARIS61]

I have to agree on the Andre bashing. He is 0-6 in playoff series. Not all of those teams were bad. Denver was pretty good 5-6 years ago. If anyone is watching these games, you'll notice that many Dallas 3 point highlights have Andre Miller closing out late. He makes Jason Kidd look like an All-Star ...

This is by far the best team Andre has been on, so no surpise about not winning.

As for Kidd, he hit some 3's. He does that to everybody in the league. Big deal.

Andre left him in the dust with his head spinning around the basket several times. It was clear which old man still has the moves and speed.

 

[OneSport3]

If the Blazers don't win a playoff series with Miller, is it really a 'deserved' contract? I'm sorry I upset you the other day. People are on edge, and you seem to be leading the charge. I appreciate what Miller does, but in the playoffs, he's a proven loser.

So if we don't win the series is LaMarcus' contract deserved? Is Wesley Matthew's contract deserved? Is Gerald Wallace's contract deserved? Is Brandon Roy's contract deserved. He has yet to win a playoff series.

It is ridiculous and illogical to question the validity ONE player's contract because the team losses a series.

 

[Natebishop3]

So if we don't win the series is LaMarcus' contract deserved? Is Wesley Matthew's contract deserved? Is Gerald Wallace's contract deserved? Is Brandon Roy's contract deserved. He has yet to win a playoff series.

It is ridiculous and illogical to question the validity ONE player's contract because the team losses a series.

PapaG is only trying to rile up the forum. He's played this card before. It's like he just threw down his best slammer, but nobody told him that pogs went out back in the early 90s.

 

[Shooter]

It's easy to guard a player when they have no three point shot.

So before the 3-point shot was introduced, everybody in the NBA was easy to guard?

 

[PapaG]

So if we don't win the series is LaMarcus' contract deserved? Is Wesley Matthew's contract deserved? Is Gerald Wallace's contract deserved? Is Brandon Roy's contract deserved. He has yet to win a playoff series.

It is ridiculous and illogical to question the validity ONE player's contract because the team losses a series.

If the Blazers don't win in the playoffs, none of those contracts are 'deserved'. Since this thread was about Miller, and NateBishop's post was about Miller, my answer to that post was specifically related to Miller. Nice strawman, though. Had you asked me a question about all contracts, instead of posting the dumb rant I just read, you'd have seen my answer. Instead, you look like a guy who can't follow a linear argument.

 

[KingSpeed]

Of the Top 20 players in assists in NBA/ABA history, Miller is the only one who has never led a team to a win in a playoff series.

Reggie Theus, at #22, is the next in line without a playoff victory.

Going through the Top 50, Miller and Theus are still the only two to never win a playoff series.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_career.html

That'll change in about a week.

 

[blazerboy30]

Incredibly stupid thread.

 

[OneSport3]

If the Blazers don't win in the playoffs, none of those contracts are 'deserved'. Since this thread was about Miller, and NateBishop's post was about Miller, my answer to that post was specifically related to Miller. Nice strawman, though. Had you asked me a question about all contracts, instead of posting the dumb rant I just read, you'd have seen my answer. Instead, you look like a guy who can't follow a linear argument.

So according to your "logic", only the players of one team out of 30 have "deserved" contracts since there is only one champion. Brilliant!

The only way you justify your brilliant logic is to make linear arguments.

 

[PapaG]

PapaG is only trying to rile up the forum. He's played this card before. It's like he just threw down his best slammer, but nobody told him that pogs went out back in the early 90s.

So numerous threads about Nate and Roy aren't "riling up the forum", yet one thread pointing out a rather remarkable fact about Miller is too far?

I think that's your own bias talking, NateBishop.