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Whyachi said:
start Toumani, why not? Blazers have needed and extra boost of length & versatility in forever.
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As positive as I am about TC that may be a bit premature, however I could see that later in the yr if he plays like many of us think he can, starting is fine but I just want to see him get a consistent 15-20 mintes so he can develop
 
MickZagger said:
I love having 2nd round gems fall in our lap. It’s unexpected and nice surprise, to go along with a super cheap contract. But, how did Camara fall so far given that he’s 6’8 220 wing with good size and defensive instincts. He was almost undrafted.
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small school and 23?
 
Whyachi said:
start Toumani, why not? Blazers have needed and extra boost of length & versatility in forever.
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Yeah, it certainly is a consideration. I mean we have discussed starting Williams to give them more size and toughness, Toumani might be a better option because he can hit the 3 well enough to keep the defense honest. It is still early but regardless if he starts or not I think he is in their 9 man rotation.
Scoot, Ant, Sharpe, Grant, Ayton, Thybulle, Brogdon, Williams, Toumani. The others will get their chance as well with injuries.
 
Talking of throw ins.

The A's in 1986 needed a shortstop. They offered three promising minor leaguers to the Cubs for Dan Rahn and a throw in.
Rahn never amounted to much. None of the minor leaguers ever made it to the Major Leagues.

The throw in? Dennis Eckersley.
 
If Camara is truly Scottie Pippen, we might only need a starting PF to complete the dynasty team
 
I haven’t watched any preseason at all and have only seen box scores and the occasional clip, so I haven’t had a chance to really see what all the hype is about. Right now, he seems like he could cancel out the Kris Murray mistake (whether or not it was a mistake remains to be seen I guess, I just think there were better options at #23).
 
BankTeller said:
I haven’t watched any preseason at all and have only seen box scores and the occasional clip, so I haven’t had a chance to really see what all the hype is about. Right now, he seems like he could cancel out the Kris Murray mistake (whether or not it was a mistake remains to be seen I guess, I just think there were better options at #23).
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I wasn’t a fan of the KM pick. I think he’ll be gone before ever he contributes to this team. But I do think he’ll eventually be a useful player in the L because I think guys that work and play the game right will make it in his position.

I hope I’m wrong, though (about his contributions).
 
What we have seen from College is that if you give Kris Murray a long enough runway he will lift off eventually. The Blazers have the luxury of giving him that runway in the NBA, so I for one am not too worried about it. Well worth the risk at the #23 pick.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Yeah, it certainly is a consideration. I mean we have discussed starting Williams to give them more size and toughness, Toumani might be a better option because he can hit the 3 well enough to keep the defense honest. It is still early but regardless if he starts or not I think he is in their 9 man rotation.
Scoot, Ant, Sharpe, Grant, Ayton, Thybulle, Brogdon, Williams, Toumani. The others will get their chance as well with injuries.
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Williams will probably be out a lot, so add another center or big man in parentheses after his name.
 
BankTeller said:
I haven’t watched any preseason at all and have only seen box scores and the occasional clip, so I haven’t had a chance to really see what all the hype is about. Right now, he seems like he could cancel out the Kris Murray mistake (whether or not it was a mistake remains to be seen I guess, I just think there were better options at #23).
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Doesn't matter where a player is drafted.
Especially for the 2023 draft.
 
inconceivable said:
If Camara is truly Scottie Pippen, we might only need a starting PF to complete the dynasty team
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Here's a question, is TC better more of a PF of SF? and does it matter much in today's switchable NBA? he seems big enough to play PF and perhaps quick enough at SF. One thing he can do is rebound which we need out of anyone who plays alongside Grant who is allergic to rebounding!
 
Jerome Kersey, Kevin Duckworth, Clifford Robinson, Danny Ainge all second round picks.
 
Blazinaway said:
Here's a question, is TC better more of a PF of SF? and does it matter much in today's switchable NBA? he seems big enough to play PF and perhaps quick enough at SF
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Also have to compare to what the Blazers have at SF now. Thybulle is a bit undersized and has an unorthodox defending style where he blocks shots from behind which can be a problem if he's not staying in front of his man.
Camara does a better job of traditional defense.
 
Blazinaway said:
Here's a question, is TC better more of a PF of SF? and does it matter much in today's switchable NBA? he seems big enough to play PF and perhaps quick enough at SF
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I'm not sure he's quick enough to guard all SF's or the SG's he'd have to switch to. But he's probably fast enough to do it some of the time. I like a lot of the things I've seen from Camara, but I do question his speed. BBIQ can make up for some of that, but not all
 
blazerfan11 said:
Also have to compare to what the Blazers have at SF now. Thybulle is a bit undersized and has an unorthodox defending style where he blocks shots from behind which can be a problem if he's not staying in front of his man.
Camara does a better job of traditional defense.
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And his contract is unreally cheap at 4 year / $7,639,302
 
Blazinaway said:
Here's a question, is TC better more of a PF of SF? and does it matter much in today's switchable NBA? he seems big enough to play PF and perhaps quick enough at SF
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I think for the most part he can play either forward spot in today's NBA. There are a few teams where we would need to go bigger to match up but maybe that is when a Robert Williams comes into play.

Remember how badly some of us wanted Vanderbilt at the trade deadline? He weighs in at 214. I think Camara has more potential.
 
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andalusian said:
What we have seen from College is that if you give Kris Murray a long enough runway he will lift off eventually. The Blazers have the luxury of giving him that runway in the NBA, so I for one am not too worried about it. Well worth the risk at the #23 pick.
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Yeah I’m not sure why people are heavily judging Murray after a handful of minutes.

Even 23 year olds need an adjustment period.
 
Toumara 7’0.5 wingspan
Rupert 7’2 wingspan
Williams 7’6 wingspan
Shae 7’0 wingspan
Grant 7’3 wingspan
Thybulle 6’11 wingspan
Murray 6’11 wingspan

Even Ant and Scoot at 6’9 wingspans have the average wingspan of a SG. This roster is gearing up for a team that can run. We might suck as a defense overall, but I’m hoping we are leaders in steals and fast break points.
 
Samuel said:
Yeah I’m not sure why people are heavily judging Murray after a handful of minutes.

Even 23 year olds need an adjustment period.
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That and the fact that he has not looked bad in those minutes, he just has hit his 3s. We see that all the time from rookies.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think for the most part he can play either forward spot in today's NBA. There are a few teams where we would need to go bigger to match up but maybe that is when a Robert Williams comes into play.

Remember how badly some of us wanted Vanderbilt at the trade deadline? He weighs in at 214. I think Camara has more potential.
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Vanderbilt is out of control a lot. He's the Will Barton of small forwards. Lots of energy, not always smart energy.
 
Samuel said:
Yeah I’m not sure why people are heavily judging Murray after a handful of minutes.

Even 23 year olds need an adjustment period.
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I don't know about other people, but I am judging who should get playing time now, not someone's NBA career.
The playing time decision needs to be made now for upcoming games.
 
Blazinaway said:
Got the Suns again Monday, let's hope TC gets plenty of minutes and plays well again
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Much like summer league though, if a player does not look good playing with scrubs that does not mean he won't play better with the starters. I think he can add a lot to the team without creating his own shot. And if he does play with the 3rd team he might be asked to do more. This team needs defense and rebounding.

Is this the last preseason game? I hope they play all the rotation players at least for the first 3 quarters.
 
I want to see a Scoot, Shae, Camara, Grant, Ayton lineup. That's what I think it should be.
 
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