SodaPopinski
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If KP doesn't get something done, this will be a failure of epic proportions ...
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Not true. We will have draft day. And we all know what KP does on draft day...
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Its not a failure, it means he feels the right deal wasn't there, and didn't want to mortgage the future for the present. He hasn't led us astray yet, so I would trust his decision.
Of course it would be disappointing though.
Of course it would be disappointing though.
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What does that have to do with the trade deadline? If he doesn't use his golden ticket to upgrade us in talent it is a failure. He can do his draft day magic even if a Raef trade occurs.
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I like how some people think they can tell KP what is and isn't a success.
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No we don't. Raef's contract comes off the books before draft day. At least I am pretty sure it does.
Huge failure if it's not moved today.
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Oh yay! Draft Day! So you're saying there's a chance we'll get another guy with a ton of potential that will "net us some playoff wins in 2-3 years."
No thanks. I'm tired of constantly moving the goalposts out 2-3 years. We're holding a pot of gold in the name of RLEC, and we've got one chance to use it. If we blow this, we're basically passing on a sure thing for the opportunity to hope and pray that someone deals with us later when we've lost our leverage.
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What I'm saying is he doesn't have to make a deal today. History suggests KP performs miracles on draft day. Why would you bet against it happening again?
The other thought I've had in the last 24 hours or so is if other NBA GM's are starting to resist KP's offers and counter him with higher asking prices despite the current economic situation. If a deal doesn't get done it makes me wonder if teams are, at the least, a tiny bit reluctant to deal with Portland given KP's record of fleecing aka Pritchslapping other GM's.
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So what, RLEC is one of the best trade assets on the market right now. Our pick in the draft probably won't even be that good, and no matter who we draft or trade, I don't see it being able to make an impact like a Gerald Wallace would right now. Get Gerald Wallace now, then upgrade PG during the draft.
The draft has absolutely nothing to do with this trade deadline
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I keep thinking, with Raef's insurance covered contract, KP has sat around singing this on quite a few occasions.
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Having a MIXUM moment, Pop?
I'm not alone here. This is a HUGE opportunity. I mean, seriously, when are you going to have the perfect storm of:
1) Being within striking distance of a championship
2) Holding on to a HUGE expiring contract with an insurance kicker
3) Having the NBA send out a memo to all GM's telling them the luxury tax threshold and salary cap is going to go DOWN ... on the day before the trade deadline
4) Dealing in a horrible financial crisis that is forcing 90% of the league's owners to look for opportunities to save money
If he blows this, it will shock the hell out of me.
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He really does. We know he's doing it with at least three teams:
-- Charlotte (Blazers don't wanna take Nazr OR give up anything more than RLEC + Frye)
-- NJ (Blazers want the 2011 GS First rounder without giving up more than RLEC + Frye)
-- Milwaukee (?? I'm sure we're holding out for something... maybe Sessions?)
It's conceivable that NONE of the teams blink, and KP doesn't blink, and nothing happens.
The odds seem high, though, that one of the teams caves and the Blazers make a hell of a deal.
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I hope what you are saying happens. According to reports Wallace is who PDX wants most. I hope their GM folds...
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Big failure IMO. Its about the same as letting a prize free agent walk for nothing. If they let Gerald Wallace slip because they wanted Batum, I am going to be really pissed. If Batum ever turned out as good as Wallace, you would consider yourself extremely fortunate.
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Some people are still missing the fact that with our cap space, we can make a draft day deal where we take back salary and give another team instant relief, not expiring contracts. That, combined with 5 draft picks would be more valuable than RLEC.
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You're right. The draft involves drafting college and international players. The trade deadline involves current players and future picks.
My point is just because we fail to move raef, it doesn't completely write off a big move before the start of next season. With the way the economy is running I wouldn't eliminate that thought entirely.
Besides, KP has his price like everyone else. If no deal fit his eye then so be it.
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YOU WANT IT SPELLED OUT (and im more sure then ever after watching the grizz almost beat us) .....
THIS TEAM WILL NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS WITHOUT A MOVE. We are 3 games ahead of the 9th team who will make a furious push down the stretch. The fact we have almost lost to the grizz at home and have been down by double digits every game before the break....says we need a fucking deal. Barretts cute little post spelled this out today saying " i dont know if the future is now" setting fans up for anothe rlotto bound season.
IM TIRED OF "NEXT YEAR" and lotto picks. FUCK THAT. Its time to take the next step. Losing outalw, sergio, batum means absolute dick! If KP wasnt like most posters on this board (in love with mediorcre talent) a deal would be done by now.
Thats the cold truth.
THIS TEAM WILL NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS WITHOUT A MOVE. We are 3 games ahead of the 9th team who will make a furious push down the stretch. The fact we have almost lost to the grizz at home and have been down by double digits every game before the break....says we need a fucking deal. Barretts cute little post spelled this out today saying " i dont know if the future is now" setting fans up for anothe rlotto bound season.
IM TIRED OF "NEXT YEAR" and lotto picks. FUCK THAT. Its time to take the next step. Losing outalw, sergio, batum means absolute dick! If KP wasnt like most posters on this board (in love with mediorcre talent) a deal would be done by now.
Thats the cold truth.
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Also true.
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I was waiting for you to show up. Great post... you got your caps lock on there, you got the bolded parts, and you end with your line "Thats the ... truth". Excellent post.
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Salary cap and luxury tax threshold is going down this offseason. The NBA sent out a memo yesterday to all GM's. That means our cap space, because of the Darius Miles fiasco, will be minimal on draft day.
The RLEC is at its maximum value TODAY. And it's a sure thing. Waiting to do something on draft day is a hope and a prayer.
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KP has a history of getting basically zero veteran help on draft day or any other day. Some of us don't want that to continue.
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Oh man, here we go.
I was waiting for Mixum to make an appearance on deadline day. And man, you sure didn't disappoint. Holy crap. Funny thing in this post is its overwhelmingly redundant when related to his other 900 or so posts. There's nothing new here, nothing we haven't already heard or reworded 500 different times.
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We have draft picks to deal now as well, so that argument is null.
We also give instant relief now because RLEC is paid by insurance. And by doing it now we can help a team get under the tax level.
Again. EVERYTHING we will have on draft day, we have now. PLUS RLEC
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We actually have more now, excluding the RLEC. See my previous post. Salary cap and tax threshold are going DOWN in the offseason. That means
a) We won't realize as much cap flexibility in the offseason as some people here are thinking; and
b) Cash-strapped owners are even more motivated today to make a move, since that news from the NBA came down yesterday.
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You are 100% correct.
I don't get why other don't understand this.
Epic failure by KP if nothing happens.
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If they let RLEC, Frye, and Ruffin come off their own cap, KP will be armed with about 10M of capspace this offseason. This represents virtually the same sort of instant savings to other teams interested in clearing capspace via a lopsided deal. Portland can clear even more space by renouncing the rights to Blake and/or Outlaw.
It won't be a "failure of epic proportions" if nothing happens today. It will be a bit disappointing that nobody offered KP what he wanted, but he's right to be patient. If he's to use RLEC now it should only be for the right guy because other similar opportunities will be around shortly. I'd sure rather pass on Richard Jefferson today then close the door on adding a Josh Childress as a FA or making a more desirable lopsided deal. Tough economic times will still be facing clubs come this summer and Portland could still be offering serious relief.
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