Well folks, we've got 3 1/2 hours to cash in our winning lottery ticket

[mook]

He really does. We know he's doing it with at least three teams:

-- Charlotte (Blazers don't wanna take Nazr OR give up anything more than RLEC + Frye)
-- NJ (Blazers want the 2011 GS First rounder without giving up more than RLEC + Frye)
-- Milwaukee (?? I'm sure we're holding out for something... maybe Sessions?)

It's conceivable that NONE of the teams blink, and KP doesn't blink, and nothing happens.

The odds seem high, though, that one of the teams caves and the Blazers make a hell of a deal.

Ed O.

Seems to me that if none of the three teams blink, then at the last minute KP just goes with the best deal available.

I mean, if Wallace + Nazr is available right now, it'll still be available a half hour before the deadline, right?

That's the beauty of Pritchard's current hand, and the reason he's smart to hold off until the last minute.

He's on Ebay right now with three competitors all bidding against each other for his goods. You don't close an Ebay auction 2 hours early because you think you got all the money you're going to get. You close it when the auction is over.

 

[Mediocre Man]

john from panama city, fl: Do you think portland has a deal in the works right now, or will they stand pat?

Chad ford: (12:04 pm et ) i was told by a blazers source that chances are, as of 11:30 a.m et, the blazers won't do a major deal. Their talks with the nets, bucks and bobcats aren't totally dead, but there's been little movement right now.

fail!!!!!!!!!

 

[SodaPopinski]

you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink

If they let RLEC, Frye, and Ruffin come off their own cap, KP will be armed with about 10M of capspace this offseason.

Wrong. That may have been true if the salary cap was going up, as has been the trend over the last several years. But the NBA announced yesterday the cap is going down. You can expect that number to be about half of that.

That's like holding a stock until its value is at its highest, not selling it, then waiting three months to sell it when it's worth about half.

People make those kinds of mistakes in the stock market all the time. But the difference here is that we know our "stock" (RLEC) is at it's highest value today, and we know it's value will go substantially down this offseason.

-Pop

 

[LittleAlex]

Man, as much as I hate to say it, MIXUM may be correct if a tad loud. After last night's "win" I can't help but feel the team is fading down the stretch. The last 8 games or so have been horrible. This was the part of the season where Portland was supposed to make a push and they are barely beating shitty teams at home. If Portland plays like they did last night (and against GS and NY and the Thunder twice) against a playoff contender, they will get beat like a rented mule. To ensure they make the playoffs this year, they should make a deal.

If they don't make a deal and don't make the playoffs this year, the fault will fall on both KP and Nate. At least one of those two will have to go.

 

[free_lafrentz]

Man, as much as I hate to say it, MIXUM may be correct if a tad loud. After last night's "win" I can't help but feel the team is fading down the stretch. The last 8 games or so have been horrible. This was the part of the season where Portland was supposed to make a push and they are barely beating shitty teams at home. If Portland plays like they did last night (and against GS and NY and the Thunder twice) against a playoff contender, they will get beat like a rented mule. To ensure they make the playoffs this year, they should make a deal.

If they don't make a deal and don't make the playoffs this year, the fault will fall on both KP and Nate. At least one of those two will have to go.

That would be Nate. KP built this team.

 

[STOMP]

Wrong. That may have been true if the salary cap was going up, as has been the trend over the last several years. But the NBA announced yesterday the cap is going down. You can expect that number to be about half of that.

link please

STOMP

 

[andalusian]

People make those kinds of mistakes in the stock market all the time. But the difference here is that we know our "stock" (RLEC) is at it's highest value today, and we know it's value will go substantially down this offseason.

This is not exactly right because the cap goes down for all the teams - so all the other teams that have cap-room will have less to spend as well - and the price paid for free-agents will just go down all around.

The difference between the stock market and the NBA market is that when the stock-market falls - housing or other goods do not follow suit immediately. This is different in the NBA - when the cap falls - it falls for everyone and the price of the available goods (free agents or people on the trading block) falls down with it immediately.

 

[MrJayremmie]

If they don't make a deal and don't make the playoffs this year, the fault will fall on both KP and Nate. At least one of those two will have to go.

Huh? What do you mean one of those two? No way Paul Allen would even think of letting KP go, that is just silly to say.

 

[Ed O]

link please

They don't announce the salary cap numbers until the summer, but Stern mentioned that the cap will probably go down in 2009 over the all-star break.

Ed O.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Man, as much as I hate to say it, MIXUM may be correct if a tad loud. After last night's "win" I can't help but feel the team is fading down the stretch. The last 8 games or so have been horrible. This was the part of the season where Portland was supposed to make a push and they are barely beating shitty teams at home. If Portland plays like they did last night (and against GS and NY and the Thunder twice) against a playoff contender, they will get beat like a rented mule. To ensure they make the playoffs this year, they should make a deal.

If they don't make a deal and don't make the playoffs this year, the fault will fall on both KP and Nate. At least one of those two will have to go.

Why would you hate to say it. In the last couple of days Mixum only been a 4 out of 10 on the Mixum Scale.
No worries, he'll return to his former self soon enough.

 

[RoyToy]

If there isn't a trade made by the deadline I might have to avoid this place for a day or two because this place will be going nuts.

 

[MAS RipCity]

Here's a thought?
Maybe KP needs to drive down his freaking asking price? Hell, even LA had to part with their 1st round pick and Javaris Crittenton, a palyer taken in the 1st round..sounds like we are offering crap.
Either quit asking for the Nets to throw in a pick (kind of asinine to do so) or take back Narz Mohammed..GET IT DONE!

 

[STOMP]

They don't announce the salary cap numbers until the summer, but Stern mentioned that the cap will probably go down in 2009 over the all-star break.

key word being probably. Since the salary cap is set according to a formula related to revenues, and those revenues are still coming in, it seems Soda is taking a dire WAG and trying to pass it off as fact.

STOMP

 

[free_lafrentz]

Here's a thought?
Maybe KP needs to drive down his freaking asking price? Hell, even LA had to part with their 1st round pick and Javaris Crittenton, a palyer taken in the 1st round..sounds like we are offering crap.
Either quit asking for the Nets to throw in a pick (kind of asinine to do so) or take back Narz Mohammed..GET IT DONE!

I'm sure he is or will be very shortly. We have something like 5 picks in the next few drafts, which we really don't need, so now is the time to offload those onto a team in a big deal.

As far as the Abbott and Ford reports on Portland standing pat, Canzano and Barrett also made the same statement last night. Either KP is really toying with the media, or they are seriously considering waiting until the end of the year.

My personal take is they are playing the media right now and will make their move come 11:50.

 

[ehizzy3]

Here's a thought?
Maybe KP needs to drive down his freaking asking price? Hell, even LA had to part with their 1st round pick and Javaris Crittenton, a palyer taken in the 1st round..sounds like we are offering crap.
Either quit asking for the Nets to throw in a pick (kind of asinine to do so) or take back Narz Mohammed..GET IT DONE!

i agree, what was that deal raef and frye for carter and ager. so its basically carter for frye, but he still is demanding there 2011 1st rounder they got from golden state

 

[alex42083]

Here's a thought?
Maybe KP needs to drive down his freaking asking price? Hell, even LA had to part with their 1st round pick and Javaris Crittenton, a palyer taken in the 1st round..sounds like we are offering crap.
Either quit asking for the Nets to throw in a pick (kind of asinine to do so) or take back Narz Mohammed..GET IT DONE!

Yeah, Rod Thorn is already a hardball type GM and asking him to give up a crappy GS team's first-rounder along with Carter for savings is a huge asking price. I can understand not taking on Nazr and giving up Batum, but if what we're asking from NJ is true, that deal is all but dead IMO.

 

[SodaPopinski]

key word being probably. Since the salary cap is set according to a formula related to revenues, and those revenues are still coming in, it seems Soda is taking a dire WAG and trying to pass it off as fact.

STOMP

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...F?slug=ys-tradebuzz021909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The NBA sent out an ominous memo to its teams on the eve of the league’s trade deadline to outline dramatic projected drops in salary-cap and luxury-tax levels for the next two summers, Yahoo! Sports has learned.

Because of rapidly declining revenues, the league office delivered a sobering warning to teams trying to free cap space for the historic free-agent class of 2010: Owners and executives will likely have to strip more payroll than initially planned.

-Pop

 

[Tortimer]

Yeah, Rod Thorn is already a hardball type GM and asking him to give up a crappy GS team's first-rounder along with Carter for savings is a huge asking price. I can understand not taking on Nazr and giving up Batum, but if what we're asking from NJ is true, that deal is all but dead IMO.

It is because KP never wanted VC and was only using the trade rumors to try and get a better deal for Wallace or maybe RJ. There is probably no way KP would take VC. I bet if NJ came back and said yes we will give you the 2011 pick KP would still want more.

 

[Ed O]

It is because KP never wanted VC and was only using the trade rumors to try and get a better deal for Wallace or maybe RJ. There is probably no way KP would take VC. I bet if NJ came back and said yes we will give you the 2011 pick KP would still want more.

I think you're letting the dislike you have of VC blind you.

Carter is a borderline all-star level player and would immediately elevate this team to near-lock status for HCA.

If Portland only had to give up Frye and RLEC and got back a first rounder? It's a ridiculously good move for the Blazers.

Ed O.

 

[DaRizzle]

Is it pitiful that the Lakers have made more moves than Portland at this point? paging MIXUM...preach it brother!

 

[Fawzi83]

I have a feeling New Jersey or Milwaukee will call in the last hour and give in to the Blazers demands. Most likely New Jersey because they're desperate to get red of VC

 

[Tortimer]

I think you're letting the dislike you have of VC blind you.

Carter is a borderline all-star level player and would immediately elevate this team to near-lock status for HCA.

If Portland only had to give up Frye and RLEC and got back a first rounder? It's a ridiculously good move for the Blazers.

Ed O.

I never said it wasn't a good deal for the Blazers and in a different thread I said I would have to do that deal. I'm saying KP never wanted VC probably because of his contract and doesn't fit with the age or timeline for the team not sure maybe something else. I just think KP is/was using the trade rumors on VC to try and get Wallace, RJ maybe Butler or someone else cheaper. It looks like right now it hasn't worked but we do have over 2 hours left.

 

[Tince]

We have draft picks to deal now as well, so that argument is null.

We also give instant relief now because RLEC is paid by insurance. And by doing it now we can help a team get under the tax level.

Again. EVERYTHING we will have on draft day, we have now. PLUS RLEC

Draft picks are worth more on or near draft day, when teams know about who is going where, and they've seen these players first hand.

 

[LittleAlex]

Huh? What do you mean one of those two? No way Paul Allen would even think of letting KP go, that is just silly to say.

You are most likely correct in that the fall guy would be Nate. But a portion of the blame would still be shared by KP. The tarnish on his reputation, so to speak.

 

[SodaPopinski]

90 minutes to make something happen ...

tick, tick, tick, tick

-Pop

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

50 minutes and nothing is going to happen.

 

[Tince]

50 minutes and nothing is going to happen.

50 minutes and we'll still have the 4th best record in the Western Conference with the youngest team in the league after playing a difficult schedule in the first half of the season. What a mess...

 

[chris_in_pdx]

50 minutes and we'll still have the 4th best record in the Western Conference with the youngest team in the league after playing a difficult schedule in the first half of the season. What a mess...

Hey now, quit talking sense!

 

[Mediocre Man]

50 minutes and we'll still have the 4th best record in the Western Conference with the youngest team in the league after playing a difficult schedule in the first half of the season. What a mess...

And a .500 record in our last 6 games including losses to the Warriors and Thunder, as well as eke out wins at home against the Knicks and Grizzlies.


All is well.

 

[SodaPopinski]

50 minutes and we'll still have the 4th best record in the Western Conference with the youngest team in the league after playing a difficult schedule in the first half of the season. What a mess...

We're 2 1/2 games ahead of 9th in the conference. It's not like we have a stranglehold on the playoffs.

-Pop