Wendy's introducing self service kiosks

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Smoke the meth. And creep around trying to steal metal parts from robots to sell on the black market to make more money for that sweet sweet robo-meth.

Absolutely 100 percent guaranteed outcome.

 

[Haakzilla]

It helps people like me and @JFizzleRaider , the McDonald's by me I did 3 orders, and used 3 different coupons. The human would have said no, one coupon per visit, the machine didn't know the same person had made the 3 orders. I BEAT THE MACHINE!

...this reminds me of when I scored a two-for-one on the claw machine last week!

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

The suicide rate in those states would probably go way up. Who the f wants to live in those states?

Well, I like the country... I like cold weather... And I'd get to watch the Blazers on LP sooooooo, it can't be THAT bad.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Well, I like the country... I like cold weather... And I'd get to watch the Blazers on LP sooooooo, it can't be THAT bad.

I know a couple people that have moved from.montana to portland a few years back. And a coworker from iowa. Those places suck. Montana water smells like asshole.

If i had to move to a place like that, idaho would be my choice.

 

[MarAzul]

I see it as a pretty simple thing. Shitty jobs that pay shit and nobody wants SHOULD be done by robots.

Duh.

Geez I don't think we come from the same experiances. I had a pretty shittly job when I was 16-17 years old. Basically the main part of the job working on an egg ranch was to till the chicken shit in the chicken houses into the sawdust duff daily. The tiller I speak of was a garden tiller put to a different duty. I think a robot could do the job alright, but then, I would have been looking for another robot job to pay my rent and buy dinner.
Thank goodness, I was probably cheaper than the robot, they were quite costly in those days.

 

[riverman]

Karaoke and actually any record player or radio basically destroyed jobs of musicians all over the world. Nobody could justify paying a big band to play the weekend when a DJ could spin discs through a PA...there are millions of these stories ...it's life. If flippin' burgers is your only ambition, you will be shit out of luck as time goes on.

 

[MarAzul]

Karaoke and actually any record player or radio basically destroyed jobs of musicians all over the world. Nobody could justify paying a big band to play the weekend when a DJ could spin discs through a PA...there are millions of these stories ...it's life. If flippin' burgers is your only ambition, you will be shit out of luck as time goes on.

Only if you continue to raise the minimum wage and force the people out. Technology is not free, but it does become viable as the cost a labor rises.

 

[riverman]

Only if you continue to raise the minimum wage and force the people out. Technology is not free, but it does become viable as the cost a labor rises.

Actually the Karaoke machine for example, rather than hire a band, you just charge the customers to sing..it's pure profit

 

[riverman]

If a young unskilled person wants to work in the food industry, Wendy's jobs shouldn't stop them anyway..ATM machines have put bank tellers out of works. Wages shouldn't go down but prices should probably be adjusted

 

[MarAzul]

Actually the Karaoke machine for example, rather than hire a band, you just charge the customers to sing..it's pure profit

True, and the musicians made it possible by opting to mass sell their product via repeatable media.

 

[riverman]

True, and the musicians made it possible by opting to mass sell their product via repeatable media.

Not when it started..Slack key guitarists in Hawaii were lucky to get recorded before they passed away of old age.

 

[MarAzul]

Wages shouldn't go down but prices should probably be adjusted

These decisions and questions should not be political, but handled by the markets. Having Politician make judgments best handled by the market place does not serve the unskilled and beginners

It does serve the politicians though, gives them a white hat. err, the allusion of the white hat.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

These decisions and questions should not be political, but handled by the markets. Having Politician make judgments best handled by the market place does not serve the unskilled and beginners

It does serve the politicians though, gives them a white hat. err, the allusion of the white hat.

So you support a system where businesses set a wage that a full time person still qualifies for welfare and you're just fine with paying that bill as a taxpayer?

Walmart is the largest private employer in the USA, the average employee makes $8.80 and $15k a year. Federal poverty level is $20k. So we taxpayers get to pay for welfare, food stamps, housing subsidies, etc. But your answer is they shouldn't inconvenience the business, they should just find higher paying employment! Except we're talking about 2.1mill employees. And this is just Walmart alone. I mean I think it's very nice of you to want to pay for all of that welfare but I don't. I also don't want to subsidize Walmart's low wages with my tax dollars. I believe if a person works full time they should earn a living wage, shouldn't qualify for welfare and shouldn't need it.

 

[MarAzul]

businesses set a wage

It doesn't work that way. The businesses has to pay what it takes to get a worker to sell his labor to the business.
If the price become too high to make a profit then the business owner must look for alternatives or fold.
Of course in the past many years now, the process has been unbalanced by un-check immigrations that has loaded the system with an abundance of labor.

But it worked before this era. If you check the real value of the minimum wage, it has been much higher than the current goal of $15/hour. An in fact in those days, many many jobs payed higher wages just to attract the workers.

 

[MarAzul]

I believe if a person works full time they should earn a living wage, shouldn't qualify for welfare and shouldn't need it.

I have been aware you are a Democrat for sometime now. This concept is bull shit.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It doesn't work that way. The businesses has to pay what it takes to get a worker to sell his labor to the business.
If the price become too high to make a profit then the business owner must look for alternatives or fold.
Of course in the pass many years now, the process has been unbalanced by un-check immigrations that has loaded the system with an abundance of labor.

But it worked before this era. If you check the real value of the minimum wage, it has been much higher than the current goal of $15/hour. An in fact in those days, many many jobs payed higher wages just to attract the workers.

If you're going to keep making excuses then you don't get to complain about the taxes pay you towards welfare. So if Walmart has to pay a wage that is means their employees don't qualify for welfare then they can't make a profit? That sounds like a problem with their business model. If the only way you can make a profit is via the government subsidizing the wages of your employees then maybe you shouldn't be in business.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I have been aware you are a Democrat for sometime now. This concept is bull shit.

No, I'm a republican, you wanting to give welfare to people and businesses, be involved in every aspect of their lives means you're the demo, my friend.

I learned a long time ago there are Chiefs and Indians in this world. If someone wants to be an Indian then good for them. God bless them. That's up to them. Personally I'm a Chief but it doesn't mean much to be a Chief if there are no Indians. All I ask from my fellow Americans is to get up, work hard, pay your taxes and take care of you and yours. You're the one who wants to get the government and your tax dollars involved in all of this. Government legislation setting a wage or government agencies paying for welfare, food stamps, and housing.

And you're saying that raising minimum wage while reducing the size and need of multiple government agencies and the amount of my taxes needed makes me the democrat?!?

 

[MarAzul]

If the only way you can make a profit is via the government subsidizing the wages of your employees then maybe you shouldn't be in business

Very good Sly. Now you are getting close. If the labor market were not flooded then Walmart might not find employees at the wage they pay.
In fact their model might need to change to make their profit. Perhaps they would not be able to run the small shops out of every town they move into. Perhaps the the market would level and there would be no need for the government to subsidize any workers in that sector.

 

[MarAzul]

you're saying that raising minimum wage while reducing the size and need of multiple government agencies and the amount of my taxes needed makes me the democrat

Naw, I didn't say this. But I did chide you for repeating a Democrat talking point that does get us off on the wrong course.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Very good Sly. Now you are getting close. If the labor market were not flooded then Walmart might not find employees at the wage they pay.
In fact their model might need to change to make their profit. Perhaps they would not be able to run the small shops out of every town they move into. Perhaps the the market would level and there would be no need for the government to subsidize any workers in that sector.

So out of Walmarts 2.1mill employees just how many do you think are illegals? I honestly don't know.

 

[MarAzul]

You're the one who wants to get the government and your tax dollars involved in all of this. Government legislation setting a wage or government agencies paying for welfare, food stamps, and housing.

Wow! MarAzul here! Who did you think it was?

 

[MarAzul]

So out of Walmarts 2.1mill employees just how many do you think are illegals? I honestly don't know.

I don't know, but even if the answer is none and it likely is, it does not mean the labor market is not over stocked. The fact that Walmart can hire people at such a low wage, prettly much says it is over stocked. All the illegal at large have this effect plus the crappy economy to boot.

 

[MarAzul]

The minimum wage in 1968 before we were over run with immigration was 1.60/hr which adjusted to 2016 dollars is about 11.20 (I think it's more than that). But the point is almost no business in that day paid the minimum wage, they paid more in order to hire the help.

https://www.dol.gov/featured/minimum-wage/chart1

 

[Further]

At some point we are going to have to reassess our entire set up of having jobs pay for living. With technology filling in the holes and outcompeting humans we as a society are not going to need most people to work. Of course, we will still need people to make enough to survive, and do something that is important enough to keep people involved in the world and happy to grow and expand. But working shitty jobs isn't going to be the answer. Most likely, it's going to be more people going into art, into sciences, going into craftsmanship, and fewer people woking on a line doing routine shit just to keep them busy. It's going to be the biggest shift in mankind since the dawn of the computer age, and perhaps since fire. To shift away from the entire construct that jobs are imperative to being successful and move towards more moneyless system where social norms and personal ambition push people towards greater, loftier goals than earning another dollar.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

At some point we are going to have to reassess our entire set up of having jobs pay for living. With technology filling in the holes and outcompeting humans we as a society are not going to need most people to work. Of course, we will still need people to make enough to survive, and do something that is important enough to keep people involved in the world and happy to grow and expand. But working shitty jobs isn't going to be the answer. Most likely, it's going to be more people going into art, into sciences, going into craftsmanship, and fewer people woking on a line doing routine shit just to keep them busy. It's going to be the biggest shift in mankind since the dawn of the computer age, and perhaps since fire. To shift away from the entire construct that jobs are imperative to being successful and move towards more moneyless system where social norms and personal ambition push people towards greater, loftier goals than earning another dollar.

You shut your whore mouth!

 

[Further]

You shut your whore mouth!

Well you make a great point!

 

[oldfisherman]

I believe computer related jobs were the last new industry to create many good paying jobs in the USA. Many people where able to shift their careers into computer related jobs as their old jobs were phased out, some lost due to automation. Other jobs were lost due to environmental concerns; many jobs went to other countries that paid less.

What needs to happen to create more good paying jobs is the discovery of the next new industry. What that industry is, I do not have a clue. But it will eventually happen. And it will create a lot of new jobs.

I just hope the USA is in the forefront of the new industry, and not some other country like China or India. What has kept us a super power has been our ability to discover the next new industry.

If I was young and just starting out looking for my career, I would get into the medical profession. There are many medical related jobs that pay decent to good wages. Job security appears to be healthy as far out as can be predicted.


BTW, I have never been tazered by a self-checkout machine. But I have had more than one checker that looked like they wanted to.

 

[ripcityboy]

Welcome to Costco. I luv you!

Welcome to Costco. I luv you!

Welcome to Costco. I luv you!

 

[MarAzul]

At some point we are going to have to reassess our entire set up of having jobs pay for living. With technology filling in the holes and outcompeting humans we as a society are not going to need most people to work. Of course, we will still need people to make enough to survive, and do something that is important enough to keep people involved in the world and happy to grow and expand. But working shitty jobs isn't going to be the answer. Most likely, it's going to be more people going into art, into sciences, going into craftsmanship, and fewer people woking on a line doing routine shit just to keep them busy. It's going to be the biggest shift in mankind since the dawn of the computer age, and perhaps since fire. To shift away from the entire construct that jobs are imperative to being successful and move towards more moneyless system where social norms and personal ambition push people towards greater, loftier goals than earning another dollar.

It strikes me every so often that we are in an in between time with the new era about to unfold with a new mission for men. Otherwise he is screwed.

 

[Further]

It strikes me every so often that we are in an in between time with the new era about to unfold with a new mission for men. Otherwise he is screwed.

Perhaps he is screwed regardless.