We're In First Place.

[KingSpeed]

Did you lose Roy for 10+ games..how about 40+? Utah was 5+ games out of 1st a month ago and were left for dead, so half a game isn't a biggie at this point with games against Portland & Denver coming up.

Excuses, excuses. You tried to impress me by listing all the teams that Utah beat with their healthy team, but we beat ALL THOSE GUYS so what do you have now? Nothing.

Please take a moment, learn the game, and then post.

 

[noknobs]

Whatever...you guys have your circle jerk claiming losing a two time all star isnt a big deal but losing Webster and a rookie is...


such a freakin joke

Then maybe you should leave if it upsets you.

 

[KingSpeed]

and I never said it was better losing webster. Oden does a lot for our team so I'm not so sure (in drawing double teams, playing defense, intimidator), though I'd probably still give the nod to Boozer, but Oden hasn't been on the court enough to really make an All-Star impact.

Boozer's defense is horrible, I think they play better with Millsap who IMO is a better player. Boozer looks better with Kirilenko saving his ass. For Boozer to be effective he needs a clean up guy that can mask his defensive deficiencies.

I agree that the Jazz don't lose anything with Millsap instead of Boozer. I'm going to enjoy this losing streak they're on because they have no fucking excuses now. They're healthy, right?

 

[KingSpeed]

Then maybe you should leave if it upsets you.

Exactly.

We're Blazers fans.

Our team is in first place.

We have beaten all the great teams Utah beat even when we weren't healthy.

Utah is on a two game losing streak.

If you want to make excuses for the Jazz, go to a Jazz forum. They'll love you.

Go Blazers

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I agree that the Jazz don't lose anything with Millsap instead of Boozer. I'm going to enjoy this losing streak they're on because they have no fucking excuses now. They're healthy, right?

Yep no excuses. I expect them to give us a tough battle though, and could possibly win the division. But I have high hopes that we win the division. What could kill us is our tie-breakers. Denver and Utah have them over us.

I don't want to play against the Jazz in the playoffs though, because they are going to want to play very physical with us and I wouldn't be shocked to see more hard fouls on our guys (of the flagrant variety)

 

[BlazersBlood]

Wow, are you guys really arguing that losing Boozer wasn't a big deal for the Jazz? Even if his defense is terrible, he provides solid scoring and rebounding and is a critical piece of their rotation. Having Milsap start also takes away from their second unit and his overall effectiveness as an energy guy from the bench.

The Blazers have been fortunate to be relatively healthy most of the season. We've been without Roy for a few games and Oden's been out a ton. Missing Webster has hurt our depth but Batum has been a pleasant surprise. Injuries are a part of the game.

I'd much rather face the Jazz without Boozer than with him in the lineup. I guess that's how you'd have to answer the question. Would you rather face Utah with Boozer starting and Milsap coming off the bench or with Milsap starting and some nobody backing him up?

 

[KingSpeed]

The Blazers have been fortunate to be relatively healthy most of the season. We've been without Roy for a few games and Oden's been out a ton. Missing Webster has hurt our depth but Batum has been a pleasant surprise. Injuries are a part of the game.

Don't forget Blake and Rudy.

 

[J_Ray]

Webster scored 25 points when we won IN UTAH against a healthy Jazz team last season. And then he scored 24 points in the third quarter against the healthy Jazz in Portland, Yeah, he's an important player on our team. Luckily, we're so deep that a rookie has been able to admirably fill in for him.

Correction, Memo was hurt all of December, so they weren't quite healthy and then they added Korver after those meetings. Different Jazz team

I agree that the Jazz don't lose anything with Millsap instead of Boozer. I'm going to enjoy this losing streak they're on because they have no fucking excuses now. They're healthy, right?

Umm...Millsap is nowhere near Boozer, he had that nice streak of double doubles but he wore down big time and his production dropped big time. Like I said earlier, if you were reading, Boozer is about 80% right now, not quite 100%. When Boozer is healthy, he's a go to guy down the stretch while Millsap isn't consistent. Last time Utah played @ Portland, it showed when Deron had to attack. Millsap is great but he can't attack longer bigs the same way with Boozer does with his strength.

 

[mgb]

Having HCA does not make you an elite team...it makes you have HCA. Maybe "elite" means something different to you and me.

Elite: Bos, Cle, LA
Right below elite: SA, Utah, Orl
Then there is everybody else...

I was joking. I thought saying we'd be a elite one day and not the next was a hint that I was joking and that we're not a elite team at this point.

 

[DaRizzle]

I was joking. I thought saying we'd be a elite one day and not the next was a hint that I was joking and that we're not a elite team at this point.

No prob...Im sure we are all aware how jokes/sarcasm can be lost in posts

 

[julius]

No prob...Im sure we are all aware how jokes/sarcasm can be lost in posts

Speaking of things lost in posts, were you ever find out if the clock stops or not when a foul is called?

 

[PapaG]

The fact that Deron never made the AS game means nothing. He is a top-notch NBA player - about the same tier as Roy is (you can argue where each one of them is in the top 6-12 on any given day - but Deron is a stud. You know it. I know it. So let's cut the "no AS game" crap. Deron is an allstar caliber player - if Mo Williams has an AS appearance as a PG and Deron does - it really tells you how little this achievement is as far as evaluating individual players.

The place where Utah has a leg on Portland is in experience - they have 2 All-Star level players (Deron, Boozer) and a marginal AS player on the roster (Okur). Portland has one All-star level player on the roster (Roy) and one marginal level on the roster (Aldridge).

A healthy Utah is a fantastic basketball team - and to ignore it is silly.

I still think however that the difference between Utah and Portland is very small - and a healthy Greg Oden (even in this supposedly "sub-par" year of his) makes it insignificant.

Kirilenko made an All-Star game as well. Tells me the Jazz are underperforming.

 

[PapaG]

Whatever...you guys have your circle jerk claiming losing a two time all star isnt a big deal but losing Webster and a rookie is...


such a freakin joke

Why do you continue to spend so much time at this "joke"? ChrisinPDX was right about you from the get-go, and now that the Blazers actually beat the Lakers like a drum, you turn into a typical Laker fan.

So NOT surprised.

 

[DaRizzle]

Why do you continue to spend so much time at this "joke"? ChrisinPDX was right about you from the get-go, and now that the Blazers actually beat the Lakers like a drum, you turn into a typical Laker fan.

So NOT surprised.

oh, and this thread is soooo about the Lakers...thanks for putting me in my place

Just say you hate me rather than transparent attacks

 

[PapaG]

oh, and this thread is soooo about the Lakers...thanks for putting me in my place

Just say you hate me rather than transparent attacks

I don't hate you. I just see you as a Laker fan, and I always have. The fact that you are now becoming increasingly aggressive in attacking Blazer posters for their opinions, and doing it on a Blazer board, follows a pattern I had seen for years, but was absent when the Blazers sucked.

It's like an ESPN board time warp or something.

 

[DaRizzle]

I don't hate you. I just see you as a Laker fan, and I always have. The fact that you are now becoming increasingly aggressive in attacking Blazer posters for their opinions, and doing it on a Blazer board, follows a pattern I had seen for years, but was absent when the Blazers sucked.

It's like an ESPN board time warp or something.

So because I think Utah is better than POR Im attacking posters? Just to let you know Einstien I started to be a regular on the POR boards when you guys were in the middle of your 17 game win streak.

And dont give me your shit about a Blazer board, I have the right just as much as you, maybe more since you have ticked off more posters here than I ever have.

Like Ive said a million times. Por is my second team.....a faaaarrrrr second, but second nonetheless. That doesnt mean Im gonna put on blinders to all the facts because of it.

You dont see me proclaiming how its a given the Lakers will win it all this year. Some people here just stretch too hard on their opinions.

 

[B-Roy]

welcome to the conversation...if you will kindly read the entire argument you will notice that this has been covered. Utah had serious health issues when they faced the teams you mention.

You know, some people here can nitpick all you want...pick a game here, pick a game there to back up ther opinion but its all BS. Im not gonna waste my time by being nitpicked. Im not a fool, I know how it works. One guy gets nitpicked by 5 others until he is just sick of refuting absurd claims rather than giving his reasons.

UTAH > POR period...sorry

Sure you can beat them, but not in a 7 game series, not this year anyways

Why? You certainly cherry-pick games when it helps your argument.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

You dont see me proclaiming how its a given the Lakers will win it all this year. Some people here just stretch too hard on their opinions.

unfortunately I'm sure some people think the same thing about you. Why let it bother you so much anyway? I've gotten pissed on a sports forum before and thought about it and how incredibly stupid it was. People have different opinions than you, no reason to be so up in arms about it

 

[DaRizzle]

unfortunately I'm sure some people think the same thing about you.

tell me which ones...Im all ears

Ill admit one that was far fetched...the Clips making the playoffs this year but I also stated it was my darkhorse

please mention others, any at all, you dont even have to link them if you can remember them.





....Im fine with differing opinions, just not ones that are total BS

 

[KingSpeed]

When did we win 17 games in a row?

How much do you need to be taught? I only have so much time.

 

[julius]

Just so people don't start over-reacting, I think we should calm down. But for those who don't see why some people overreact to things (involving the Lakers), here's a little video expressing why it is that some of us hate the Lakers with a passion that sometimes makes us say stupid things.

btw, dayam, it's raining like a typhoon here! Hope everyone is ok!

 

[DaRizzle]

Why? You certainly cherry-pick games when it helps your argument.

show me...what? the two Kidd games I mentioned. NOBODY who is "done" gets a triple double...there are no flukes like that

...any others?

 

[Wheels]

Personally, elite means having a legit shot at winning a title, which the Blazers, in all honesty, don't have. I hate to agree with the Laker fan, but he's got it spot on.

At this point in the season, winning the division should be the goal even though IMO it would represent over achievement. Making the playoffs was always the target, and doing so would just be meeting the expectations, not exceeding them. Not making the playoffs is only something Mixum thinks about, who cares...

Honestly this is the best way I have seen it put, as a definition of elite.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

tell me which ones...Im all ears

Ill admit one that was far fetched...the Clips making the playoffs this year but I also stated it was my darkhorse

please mention others, any at all, you dont even have to link them if you can remember them.





....Im fine with differing opinions, just not ones that are total BS

I don't have any off the top of my mind, I'm just saying, everyone has different opinions and will think some of you opinions are crazy. Just like you thinking Boozer gone is so devastating (and I'm sure others agree with you like blazerblood), but I think he is to big of a defensive deficiency (and my ol buddy cpaw agrees) so why get all pissed off when someone has a differing opinion?

 

[B-Roy]

show me...what? the two Kidd games I mentioned. NOBODY who is "done" gets a triple double...there are no flukes like that

...any others?

Clippers.

Which is why I responded with my original post.

 

[J_Ray]

Just so people don't start over-reacting, I think we should calm down. But for those who don't see why some people overreact to things (involving the Lakers), here's a little video expressing why it is that some of us hate the Lakers with a passion that sometimes makes us say stupid things.

btw, dayam, it's raining like a typhoon here! Hope everyone is ok!

Yes, the great peacemaker

Back to the thread title....for how long will it last?

 

[DaRizzle]

When did we win 17 games in a row?

How much do you need to be taught? I only have so much time.

17-1 streak....sorry I didnt remember EVERY game from last year

 

[DaRizzle]

I don't have any off the top of my mind, I'm just saying, everyone has different opinions and will think some of you opinions are crazy. Just like you thinking Boozer gone is so devastating (and I'm sure others agree with you like blazerblood), but I think he is to big of a defensive deficiency (and my ol buddy cpaw agrees) so why get all pissed off when someone has a differing opinion?

Please dont put words in my mouth...I never said "devastating"

I was refuting the claims that losing a two time all star isnt a big deal...how anybody can argue otherwise is beyond me. Is he a perfect player? Not at all. But he is a freakin all star!

 

[mgb]

Why did we drop to the 5th spot? I thought division leaders got one of the top 4 spots?

 

[DaRizzle]

Just so people don't start over-reacting, I think we should calm down. But for those who don't see why some people overreact to things (involving the Lakers), here's a little video expressing why it is that some of us hate the Lakers with a passion that sometimes makes us say stupid things.

btw, dayam, it's raining like a typhoon here! Hope everyone is ok!

Im gonna shove Rick up your ass!!!