Wes not ready - Maybe by Christmas

[riverman]

It's a huge difference in trying to live to be 300 years old vs just telling people you want to live to be 300 years old. People are accusing Wes of just saying he wants to be back by the start of the season, I think he sincerely tried.

He did say he wanted to be back at the beginning, that's not our accusation...it's what he said

 

[Natebishop3]

If I didn't already know that Sly isn't Jason Quick, I would totally think that Sly is Jason Quick.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I think we all predicted this in the summer. There was no way he was gonna come back that soon.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

He did say he wanted to be back at the beginning, that's not our accusation...it's what he said

He said it and then tried to make it happen. He didn't just say it to say it. He set that as a goal.

 

[dviss1]

It's that drive, that desire to push himself is what has made him the highest undrafted player in NBA history. Sure, he didn't come back as soon as he wanted but you know he tried at least as hard if not harder then anyone else who has had that injury. Do you think Oden did everything he could to come back from MF surgery? You're knocking him for setting tough goals and pushing himself to meet them. You said his goal to be ready for opening night was just all talk. Sorry, but it wasn't.

It's basically the same thing as RGIII saying all in for day one (sans the campaign). I didn't say his goal was all talk. It wasn't a goal. He said he would be ready. He is not. I say this saying he is the last person I would doubt.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Wes did it for the contract. He got his money, Plain & simple.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

He wanted to be more featured in the offense.

My recollection is that the word "more" as missing, making it essentially what I said. Whatever.

 

[santeesioux]

Love Wes, but I'm even more glad we aren't paying him that crazy contract.

 

[0-Our!]

props to dallas for injuring him then paying him big money. at least they took care of him. I love wes but I can't help but thank Olshey for not listening to us fans.

He listened to some of us

 

[BlazerWookee]

It's a huge difference in trying to live to be 300 years old vs just telling people you want to live to be 300 years old. People are accusing Wes of just saying he wants to be back by the start of the season, I think he sincerely tried.

And I think he's still trying. Sincerely.

 

[BlazerWookee]

He did say he wanted to be back at the beginning, that's not our accusation...it's what he said

And he still wants to be back, and he'll continue to do give every ounce of effort to be back. His team (and his Achilles tendon) likely won't let that happen, though. That's not going to stop him from trying.

 

[BigGameDamian]

This will be a perfect example of why contracts should NOT be guaranteed. Either that or say a team signs a player and that team has say 4 months to take back the contract. Unless that player is healthy and playing of course.

 

[Natebishop3]

This will be a perfect example of why contracts should NOT be guaranteed. Either that or say a team signs a player and that team has say 4 months to take back the contract.

They gave him the contract with full knowledge of his injury.... what are you talking about?

 

[BigGameDamian]

They gave him the contract with full knowledge of his injury.... what are you talking about?

I'm just pointing out that contracts (Especially like this one) should not be guaranteed.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I'm just pointing out that contracts (Especially like this one) should not be guaranteed.

Teams should have an option. If it doesn't work out they aren't fucked for years.

 

[Natebishop3]

Teams should have an option. If it doesn't work out they aren't fucked for years.

Cuban gave Matthews that contract. He overpaid to get Matthews to go there. He deserves to be fucked for years if Wes doesn't work out.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'm just pointing out that contracts (Especially like this one) should not be guaranteed.

Teams can offer partially guaranteed contracts. Cuban chose not to.

 

[Sinobas]

I thought it was an odd move on Cuban's part. Throw the max at a guy coming of an injury that might make him a spot up shooter.

 

[Strenuus]

Wes did it for the contract. He got his money, Plain & simple.

Someone took a risk on him, words or no words. Whether he was coming back on opening day or not it was a risk regardless. Not everyone comes back from this injury... Cuban knew that. Cuban is not dumb with money.

 

[Natebishop3]

Someone took a risk on him, words or no words. Whether he was coming back on opening day or not it was a risk regardless. Not everyone comes back from this injury... Cuban knew that. Cuban is not dumb with money.

Regardless of whether Wes comes back, that contract was the definition of "dumb with money." Wes is not a max player. Not even close. It was a desperation move by Cuban.

 

[Strenuus]

I'm just pointing out that contracts (Especially like this one) should not be guaranteed.

So the player should be penalized for an owner taking a chance at him? Why is that the players fault exactly? This doesn't help the owners' case of non-guaranteed contracts.

#logic

 

[Strenuus]

Regardless of whether Wes comes back, that contract was the definition of "dumb with money." Wes is not a max player. Not even close. It was a desperation move by Cuban.

He's a billionaire, I don't feel bad for him. So there's that.

 

[Draco]

Teams should have an option. If it doesn't work out they aren't fucked for years.

Teams do have the option. The Mavs could've signed him to a max unguaranteed contract. They chose to make it fully guaranteed.

 

[Draco]

Wes did end up with a max contract but only because DeAndre backed out of his deal. When the Mavs offered Wes a contract DeAndre had committed to sign there. At that time the Mavs told Wes they'd give him all the money they had the ability to pay him. It only ended up being a max contract when DeAndre left and the Mavs had additional cap space.

So DeAndre double fucked the Mavs; he left them and it made Wes' contract far more expensive.

 

[riverman]

I'm happy for Wes, that's the bottom line. I have serious doubts about how quickly he should return to full contact basketball and honestly believe he'll lose a step or two when he can play a full game. I also believe he'll never give up.

 

[Strenuus]

I'm happy for Wes, that's the bottom line. I have serious doubts about how quickly he should return to full contact basketball and honestly believe he'll lose a step or two when he can play a full game. I also believe he'll never give up.

Pretty much this. Happy as hell for him.

 

[BlazerWookee]

This will be a perfect example of why contracts should NOT be guaranteed. Either that or say a team signs a player and that team has say 4 months to take back the contract. Unless that player is healthy and playing of course.

When all is said and done, Dallas will be thrilled they signed Wes.

 

[Natebishop3]

When all is said and done, Dallas will be thrilled they signed Wes.

You're assuming that he is able to come back and be the same guy.

 

[PDXFonz]

 

[SpamKing]

True . . . You said "It's a definite maybe" when asked "if Christmas was a realistic date for Matthews' return." Then you said, "It could be sooner. It's hard to say."

My thread title only said "Wes not ready - Maybe by Christmas" All the rest seemed too long for a thread title . . .