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BlazerWookee said:
My guess? British Intelligence had surveillance on someone, and Trump happened to meet with that someone. The Brits said they did not have Trump under surveillance, but I haven't heard or seen them say they hadn't picked up conversations with him by people they had under surveillance. Of course I may have missed that being said.

Also, since when do we trust what any intelligence agency says publicly?
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The issue the UK had here is Sean Spicer, as a mouthpiece for Trump, accusing Obama of bypassing US intelligence agencies and colluding with The Brits to spy on him. We had to have two senior advisors issue formal apologies for it to the UK and yet the Orange One continued today to spew this bullshit while he's standing there with the German Chancellor. He's fucking insane!
 
Spud147 said:
The issue the UK had here is Sean Spicer, as a mouthpiece for Trump, accusing Obama of bypassing US intelligence agencies and colluding with The Brits to spy on him. We had to have two senior advisors issue formal apologies for it to the UK and yet the Orange One continued today to spew this bullshit while he's standing there with the German Chancellor. He's fucking insane!
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Oh my, Spud with the potty-mouth post. ;)

Trump is a one man disinformation campaign. I believe absolutely nothing that he says or tweets.
 
e_blazer said:
Oh my, Spud with the potty-mouth post. ;)

Trump is a one man disinformation campaign. I believe absolutely nothing that he says or tweets.
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I know, and I apologize... I did not think it was possible that there would be a president in my lifetime who could: 1) Make George W. look semi-literate, 2) Make me actually wish that George W. was still in office because I would feel more confident and comfortable, and 3) it pisses me off! :curse:
 
Spud147 said:
I know, and I apologize... I did not think it was possible that there would be a president in my lifetime who could: 1) Make George W. look semi-literate, 2) Make me actually wish that George W. was still in office because I would feel more confident and comfortable, and 3) it pisses me off! :curse:
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I never would have guessed. Hey, almost two months down, only about 46 more to go.

Unless he's impeached. Keeping my fingers crossed.
 
barfo said:
Do you think it would be better if we hadn't found out, for example, that the National Security head was a foreign agent?

Would it be ok as long as nobody told us?

barfo
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Fake news.
 
My english muffin and toaster have teamed up to spy on me.
 
Dang! I did business with The Bank of Turkey some years back! Is that a worry?
 
Sedatedfork said:
He was a paid lobbyist for Turkey, and has admitted as much. So, how is the news fake?
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More fake news.

He "admitted" nothing, as there was no denial in the first place, nor any impropriety, nor any criminal acts.

He was a REGISTERED foreign lobbyist, a matter of public record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act

Over half of Congress has at one time or another acted as a lobbyist for a foreign country, and the rest have employees and aides who have.

Wikileaks has published proof that Hillary Clinton illegally served as an UNREGISTERED de facto foreign agent for each every country who donated to her "Foundation".
 
Ahh yes the "its fake news" if we don't like what its being said denial. Just because you disagree with it does not in fact make it FAKE NEWS.
 
MarAzul said:
Dang! I did business with The Bank of Turkey some years back! Is that a worry?
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Were you National Security Advisor at the time? Getting classified briefings at the same time as taking pay from a foreign government?

Are your Trump-goggles so thick that you really can't see any problem with that?

barfo
 
Rhal said:
Ahh yes the "its fake news" if we don't like what its being said denial. Just because you disagree with it does not in fact make it FAKE NEWS.
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Truth can apparently only come from Breitbart, Hannity, Judge Napolitano, et al.
 
In July 2016, Flynn spoke at a meeting of ACT! for America at a point when the 2016 Turkish coup d'état attempt against Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was still underway. He spoke favorably of the coup participants, saying that Erdoğan had been moving Turkey away from secularism and towards Islamism, and that participants in the coup wanted Turkey to be and to be seen as a secular nation — a goal "worth clapping for."[37] But by the end of September 2016, Flynn's consulting company was hired by a company owned by the Chair of the Turkish-American Business Council, which is an arm of the Foreign Economic Relations Board of Turkey (DEIK),[38][39][40][41][42][43] and on November 8 (election day in the United States), Flynn wrote an op-ed for The Hill,[44] calling for U.S. backing for Erdoğan's government and criticizing the regime's opponent, Fethullah Gülen.[45] At the time, Flynn did not disclose that his consulting firm had received funds from a company with ties to the Turkish government.[46] After Flynn's ties had been disclosed by The Daily Caller, Politico, and others, the editor of The Hill added a note to Flynn's op-ed, stating that Flynn had failed to disclose that he had been engaged at the time in "consulting work that might have aided the government of Turkey," that his firm had received payments from a company with close ties to the Turkish government, or that the company had reviewed the draft of the op-ed before it was submitted to The Hill.[44]

On March 8, 2017, Flynn registered with the Justice Department as a foreign agent for $530,000 worth of lobbying work before election day.[47] This work was done on behalf of a Dutch-based company which may have been working for the Turkish government.[47]

Flynn sat in on classified national security briefings with then-candidate Trump at the same time that Flynn was working for foreign clients, which raises ethical concerns and conflicts of interest.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_T._Flynn#Registration_as_foreign_agent
 
MARIS61 said:
More fake news.

He "admitted" nothing, as there was no denial in the first place, nor any impropriety, nor any criminal acts.

He was a REGISTERED foreign lobbyist, a matter of public record.
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No. He only registered this month. He somehow 'neglected' to do that before.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Were you National Security Advisor at the time? Getting classified briefings at the same time as taking pay from a foreign government?
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Link to the trial report?
Link to the charge?
I had heard he did some work with RT before he was NSA.
 
Spud147 said:
The fake issue the UK had here is Sean Spicer, White House press secretary and communications director, reminding the people of Obama's proven bypassing of US intelligence agencies and colluding with The Brits to spy on him. 2 senior advisors tried to provide cover for Obama's crimes with fake apologies for it to the UK. President Trump continued today to solidify and strengthen our relationship with the German Chancellor who has also been proven to be a victim of Obama's crimes and backstabbing.
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FIFY.

Wikileaks/Bradley Manning already proved with Cablegate 10 years ago that the US and Brits were nearly constant co-conspirators in illegal surveillance targeting every US Citizen, dozens of countries both enemy and ally, political opponents, lobbyists, celebrities...
 
MarAzul said:
Link to the trial report?
Link to the charge?
I had heard he did some work with RT before he was NSA.
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Is everything ok as long as the perp doesn't get put on trial? Nixon, for example, is completely innocent in your book? So is Hitler? Hillary is innocent of Benghazi and Emailgate, since no charges were brought? Is that your point?

barfo
 
barfo said:
Were you Secretary of State at the time? Getting classified briefings at the same time as taking pay from MANY foreign governments?

Are your Clinton-goggles so thick that you really can't see any problem with that?

barfo
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No, I called for her prosecution for treason but you said "nothing to see here".
 
barfo said:
Is everything ok as long as the perp doesn't get put on trial? Nixon, for example, is completely innocent in your book? So is Hitler? Hillary is innocent of Benghazi and Emailgate, since no charges were brought? Is that your point?

barfo
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Hillary WILL be facing charges soon, for a wide variety of crimes.
 
Spud147 said:
The issue the UK had here is Sean Spicer, as a mouthpiece for Trump, accusing Obama of bypassing US intelligence agencies and colluding with The Brits to spy on him. We had to have two senior advisors issue formal apologies for it to the UK and yet the Orange One continued today to spew this bullshit while he's standing there with the German Chancellor. He's fucking insane!
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Turns out the apologies are also fake news.

http://uproxx.com/news/sean-spicer-denies-apology-british-wiretap/
 
MARIS61 said:
Turns out the apologies are also fake news.

http://uproxx.com/news/sean-spicer-denies-apology-british-wiretap/
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Turns out the administration lies then covers up whatever goofball tweets....just listen to what they say and you'll no longer be affected by printed articles...Spicer and Trump talk a lot...it's not hard to see how they are hiding behind authoritarian practices....build up the military, surround yourself with generals and suppress the media...make citizens resent ethnic minorities. Power by bluster. hello Kim Jong Trump!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Damn Maris usually you're a little sharper than this.
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Sorry, no argument there. I've been pummeled all week and now all day with last-second demands from the lender on a home that should have closed March 5th. Jumping from Zipforms to Docusign to email to phone while swallowing the profanities rising in my throat (currently visiting the grandkids in PDX) leaves me little time to devote to the higher level of heavily-documented research and insightful commentary you've all come to expect from me.
 
MARIS61 said:
Sorry, no argument there. I've been pummeled all week and now all day with last-second demands from the lender on a home that should have closed March 5th. Jumping from Zipforms to Docusign to email to phone while swallowing the profanities rising in my throat (currently visiting the grandkids in PDX) leaves me little time to devote to the higher level of heavily-documented research and insightful commentary you've all come to expect from me.
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I just got back from checking out my son's first home...a classic in Eugene...beautiful place..surrounded by parks..he got the keys this morning and I hauled some painting supplies over there...closed this morning...awesome 1951 house in an awesome location for Eugene...he's thrilled, I'm thrilled. It's a good day here. I can now enjoy Eugene without the long ride to the coastal range home...tennis courts walking distance away...fishing walking distance away..patience paid off!
 
Billboard in Phoenix.

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