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A very poor NBA team comes in and just kicks our fanny. Numerous games where we collapsed late. A roster that's a horrific mess. I'm thinking that after this loss to the Wizards the players may start to tune Nate out as the playoffs are a pipe dream now. An owner that seems paranoid about GMs with a lick of sense. A management group based on back stabbing and getting rid of anyone who might get PA's ear to do anything good. An inability to evaluate talent and make sound draft choices or trades.

I think I have finally come to the point where it is an absolute necessity for PA to sell the team to an owner and management group that is competent.

Given the current circumstances I see no real hope of turning the franchise around. I mean, I realize we lost Roy & Oden to injuries and what a different team we'd be if we hadn't, but the other decisions have been so awful as to be wondering just what in the hell PA's doing.
 
I think the "tuning out Nate" ship sailed a while ago.
 
julius said:
I think the "tuning out Nate" ship sailed a while ago.
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Maybe so. I like Nate and think he's a better than average coach, but sometimes a change for change sake is needed. In the past he's often done a good job with poor talent and depleted rosters.
 
The Wiz made a mid-season coaching change. Seems like the Blazers should take a cue from them.
 
but wait mike barrett says "after 28 games last year the blazers were 14 14

hahahahaha gotta love the mikes
 
Well, I get all that.

The argument would be that both Failton & Crawful are proven NBA commodities and even though they're playing poorly it's a matter of time before they snap out of their funk. That may or may not be true. In the case of Failton, he's just not a good player- period. His turnovers and late game mistakes have nothing to do with anything except his abilities. In the case of Crawful, he gets a lot of good looks that he misses, so it's not the system- it's him.

As to Crash... maybe he's not as tough a player as we think he is. Or maybe Nate is using him all wrong. After all, he's no longer the featured player and plays a supporting role. Matthews is not, repeat NOT, a starting SG NBA material and never has been. I think he's a decent player, but his talent level was poorly evaluated by the Blazers. He needs to go to the bench in favor of Nic or someone else- maybe Crawful or Williams.

And, yes, a coaching change is needed.
 
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BLAZER PROPHET said:
...the other decisions have been so awful as to be wondering just what in the hell PA's doing.
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Perhaps going a little Howard Hughes on us, minus the genius.

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BLAZER PROPHET said:
Yeah but he's 137 years old and will only coach a veteran team looking for a title.

Lambier comes to my mind.
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Lambier won't either.

If Nate were fired we'd be stuck with Old Nate, I mean Bernie Bickerstaff.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Lambier won't either.
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But Laimbeer almost certainly would. He's champing at the bit to coach in the NBA. He might be good, but I'm not sure. I think whomever we hire needs to focus on two players: Batum and Aldridge. Aldridge has demonstrated that he now has a winning mentality, but Batum is still inconsistent. We need somebody to come in and (to use David Thorpe's term) feed him the Royal Jelly. Some coaches are good at this but nothing else - I'm thinking of Isiah Thomas, who would always pick a particular player (Jermaine O'Neal, Eddy Curry) and build him up, but without making the team a winner. Kevin McHale seems to strike a good balance. Flip Saunders seemed to have that skill with PGs, at least until the Wizards broke him. I see Laimbeer as being more of a bully.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
But Laimbeer almost certainly would. He's champing at the bit to coach in the NBA. He might be good, but I'm not sure. I think whomever we hire needs to focus on two players: Batum and Aldridge. Aldridge has demonstrated that he now has a winning mentality, but Batum is still inconsistent. We need somebody to come in and (to use David Thorpe's term) feed him the Royal Jelly. Some coaches are good at this but nothing else - I'm thinking of Isiah Thomas, who would always pick a particular player (Jermaine O'Neal, Eddy Curry) and build him up, but without making the team a winner. Kevin McHale seems to strike a good balance. Flip Saunders seemed to have that skill with PGs, at least until the Wizards broke him. I see Laimbeer as being more of a bully.
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I'm not saying that Laimbeer wouldn't be interested in coaching the Blazers but when was the last a team has ever gone outside of the organization during the season when a coach has been fired? It just doesn't happen. The team just puts the assistant head coach in charge and rides with that until the season is over. Then they look at bringing in someone from the outside.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
But Laimbeer almost certainly would. He's champing at the bit to coach in the NBA. He might be good, but I'm not sure. I think whomever we hire needs to focus on two players: Batum and Aldridge. Aldridge has demonstrated that he now has a winning mentality, but Batum is still inconsistent. We need somebody to come in and (to use David Thorpe's term) feed him the Royal Jelly. Some coaches are good at this but nothing else - I'm thinking of Isiah Thomas, who would always pick a particular player (Jermaine O'Neal, Eddy Curry) and build him up, but without making the team a winner. Kevin McHale seems to strike a good balance. Flip Saunders seemed to have that skill with PGs, at least until the Wizards broke him. I see Laimbeer as being more of a bully.
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He has coached two teams to the GNBA title and I think that builds cred with me.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I'm not saying that Laimbeer wouldn't be interested in coaching the Blazers but when was the last a team has ever gone outside of the organization during the season when a coach has been fired? It just doesn't happen. The team just puts the assistant head coach in charge and rides with that until the season is over. Then they look at bringing in someone from the outside.
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You're probably right. In fact, I think PA would be loathe to let Nate go. Nate will have to leave on his own. Then Bernie would take over for the rest of the season and then we can look for a replacement.
 
Whenever, I'm hoping the new coach will be a former big man like McHale or Laimbeer. That's where our best players are.
 
Why not Dean Demopolous? I'd give 'ol JVG a shot too.
 
Let's piss off the Lakers and hire Kareem Abdul Jabar.
 
I still say Mike Budenholzer. He's the next Tom Thibedou. Longtime assistant that will be a good head coach.
 
Three of the guys we acquired during the offseason have been a big dissapointment. Felton is horrible. Crawford is a ball hog who kills the offense most of the time. Thomas is worthless, he doesnt rebound and his defense is pathetic.
 
The only positive out this "mess" is that hopefully the necessary changes will made. However my big concern is that with a puppet GM in Chad and Vulcan running the show we will just we a rudderless ship, afraid and unable to make the bold moves necessary, if that case it's going to very ugly IMO, uglier than it needs to be.
 
Blazinaway said:
However my big concern is that with a puppet GM in Chad and Vulcan running the show we will just we a rudderless ship, afraid and unable to make the bold moves necessary, if that case it's going to very ugly IMO, uglier than it needs to be.
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Agreed.

I think our two biggest barriers to bettering the team is Vulcan and the lack of good talent evaluators.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Three of the guys we acquired during the offseason have been a big dissapointment. Felton is horrible. Crawford is a ball hog who kills the offense most of the time. Thomas is worthless, he doesnt rebound and his defense is pathetic.
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Bullshit

Felton is horrible, I agree....

Crawford is what he has been HIS ENTIRE CAREER...an instant offense ball chucker...that is what he does, he can shoot you in\out of games....This is why he has always been a player coming off the bench....too inconsistent and this team desperately needs him to be consistent....not gonna happen

Niether of those two guys will be back next year IMO.....at least they shouldn't be...

and Thomas, seriously? Your going to diss on him? He is a bench player, who come in, knows his role, is pretty much money from the free throw line and plays decent defense....ANY of the problems that POR has right now, and there are a lot of them, have absolutely nothing to do with his performance to date....He actually was a GOOD pickup, for what role he was INTENDED to play...
 
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