Politics What an Episcopal Bishop Said About Trump Today

[Lanny]

This is what an Episcopal bishop was talking about today on the PBS News Hour:
“As faith leaders who serve at Washington National Cathedral – the sacred space where America gathers at moments of national significance – we feel compelled to ask: After two years of President Trump’s words and actions, when will Americans have enough?”
https://www.episcopalnewsservice.or...-criticism-of-trump-resonates-across-america/

 

[MARIS61]

From a pompous Turd (maybe a pedo?) who pretends to be a believer and profits nicely for doing nothing.

 

[CupWizier]

From a pompous Turd (maybe a pedo?) who pretends to be a believer and profits nicely for doing nothing.

wow, just like your president. Make up false claims to disparage someone's opinion.

Answer me this maris. Why do 80% (or more) news sources report so much negativity regarding trump. Are the 80% wrong and the meager 20% right? lol. Majority of people want this clown out of office.

 

[barfo]

From a pompous Turd (maybe a pedo?) who pretends to be a believer and profits nicely for doing nothing.

Surprised you've finally accurately described Trump.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

This is what an Episcopal bishop was talking about today on the PBS News Hour:
“As faith leaders who serve at Washington National Cathedral – the sacred space where America gathers at moments of national significance – we feel compelled to ask: After two years of President Trump’s words and actions, when will Americans have enough?”
https://www.episcopalnewsservice.or...-criticism-of-trump-resonates-across-america/

And there it is! A prime example of why PBS should be stripped of all public funding. The Slander Hour has no place at the public trough.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

And there it is! A prime example of why PBS should be stripped of all public funding. The Slander Hour has no place at the public trough.

Really? So anyone who receives federal funding shouldn't be allowed to say or report anything negative about the president?!?

That's so snowflakey.

 

[MarAzul]

Really? So anyone who receives federal funding shouldn't be allowed to say or report anything negative about the president?!?

That's so snowflakey.

It really makes zero sense to fund and organization that slanders the duly elected President, as part of it's shtick, just like most of S2 gang or CNN.

 

[barfo]

It really makes zero sense to fund and organization that slanders the duly elected President, as part of it's shtick, just like most of S2 gang or CNN.

I don't think the episcopal church is funded by the government. Although it is tax-free, maybe you'd be in favor of removing that, since their representative criticized the president?

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

I don't think the episcopal church is funded by the government.

Let them go on CNN and go for it. Although, most actual ethical churches avoid that sort of thing.

 

[barfo]

Let them go on CNN and go for it. Although, most actual ethical churches avoid that sort of thing.

You are fine with churches speaking out on politics when they agree with you, though, right?

barfo

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Personally speaking, I basically agreed with what was said, but tend to think the Church for the most part shouldn’t talk politics all that much. To be fair though it sounds like its rare for this particular group to make political statements.

 

[Lanny]

Personally speaking, I basically agreed with what was said, but tend to think the Church for the most part shouldn’t talk politics all that much. To be fair though it sounds like its rare for this particular group to make political statements.

I grew up in the Episcopal church dating back to the 40s and I can tell you that we never had a priest talk politics for decades and one of our priests was actually a bishop.
Now, contrast that with the fact that we've never had an ignorant, lying, cheating, stealing gangster President like Trump before that is ruining the lives of Millions if not Billions.
I truly believe that Trump is a disciple of the Devil, pure evil.

 

[jonnyboy]

I truly believe that Trump is a disciple of the Devil, pure evil

Now you’re just going all Pentecostal on us.

 

[Lanny]

Now you’re just going all Pentecostal on us.

Baptism? Okay, I've been baptized. Is that bad?

 

[yankeesince59]

From a pompous Turd (maybe a pedo?) who pretends to be a believer and profits nicely for doing nothing.

The only thing worse than what you said is the possibility that you actually believe it.

 

[yankeesince59]

It really makes zero sense to fund and organization that slanders the duly elected President, as part of it's shtick, just like most of S2 gang or CNN.

Hitler was also "duly elected".

 

[yankeesince59]

Personally speaking, I basically agreed with what was said, but tend to think the Church for the most part shouldn’t talk politics all that much. To be fair though it sounds like its rare for this particular group to make political statements.

Not sure I fully understand what you are saying but religion has been a factor in political decisions for a very long time.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Not sure I fully understand what you are saying but religion has been a factor in political decisions for a very long time.

It was a couple of months ago, but I never implied that religion or lack thereof, didn't play a part in political decisions, of course, they do we can't escape our own values when we vote and it doesn't matter if you're very religious or not an atheist or whatever your worldview affects votes and the common worldviews of a region will inevitably have it affects on politics and government.

My thinking though it's not really the place of the church to make political statements, I realize that it's probably inevitable.

 

[Lanny]

Not sure I fully understand what you are saying but religion has been a factor in political decisions for a very long time.

Usually the Episcopal church stays out of politics but Trump is so out of bounds that I think they were compelled to say something. Yep, Trump is so evil that they were compelled.

 

[Lanny]

It was a couple of months ago, but I never implied that religion or lack thereof, didn't play a part in political decisions, of course, they do we can't escape our own values when we vote and it doesn't matter if you're very religious or not an atheist or whatever your worldview affects votes and the common worldviews of a region will inevitably have it affects on politics and government.

My thinking though it's not really the place of the church to make political statements, I realize that it's probably inevitable.

It had to be something very very extreme for them to enter the world of politics.

 

[MarAzul]

Hitler was also "duly elected".

Wow!
Can you really eq.... Wow!

Carry on.

 

[MarAzul]

My thinking though it's not really the place of the church to make political statements

Very good.
I think most forthright clergy agree. Helping to arm their people with knowledge makes better voters. Clergy commingling messages leaves men neither guided or educated.

 

[yankeesince59]

Wow!
Can you really eq.... Wow!

Carry on.

Yes, yes I can...and it's a shame that you cannot...not at all surprising, but a shame none the less.

 

[yankeesince59]

It was a couple of months ago, but I never implied that religion or lack thereof, didn't play a part in political decisions, of course, they do we can't escape our own values when we vote and it doesn't matter if you're very religious or not an atheist or whatever your worldview affects votes and the common worldviews of a region will inevitably have it affects on politics and government.

My thinking though it's not really the place of the church to make political statements, I realize that it's probably inevitable.

Was not suggesting whether it was right or wrong, only that it's the way things are and have been for a very long time.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Was not suggesting whether it was right or wrong, only that it's the way things are and have been for a very long time.

Right, you said you didn't understand what I was trying to say, so I was just trying to communicate my opinion in a more articulate manner, not sure if I succeeded at that.

 

[theprunetang]

Very good.
I think most forthright clergy agree. Helping to arm their people with knowledge makes better voters. Clergy commingling messages leaves men neither guided or educated.

I grew up in a Pentecostal church environment. We were told all of the time, basically on a weekly basis to vote Republican. And it isn't just the church I went to. This happens at pretty much every evangelical church in the country.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I grew up in a Pentecostal church environment. We were told all of the time, basically on a weekly basis to vote Republican. And it isn't just the church I went to. This happens at pretty much every evangelical church in the country.

I have gone to several churches in the Portland area and have literally never heard any of them say to vote Republican...
The church I go to specifics stance is, “God doesnt care more about Republicans or Democrats he cares about them all the same”.
Not sure I buy that it happens at, “pretty much every evangelical Church in the country”, but it sounds like were both taking anecdotal evidence.

 

[theprunetang]

I have gone to several churches in the Portland area and have literally never heard any of them say to vote Republican...
The church I go to specifics stance is, “God doesnt care more about Republicans or Democrats he cares about them all the same”.
Not sure I buy that it happens at, “pretty much every evangelical Church in the country”, but it sounds like were both taking anecdotal evidence.

Not every church. That may have been hyperbole. But, churches in the Portland area have to operate slightly different than churches in rural areas. And that stuff did happen. And since I was involved with the worship team, I traveled all around the western US and heard the same things. You ever watch the documentary "Jesus Camp"? My childhood was exactly like that.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Not every church. That may have been hyperbole. But, churches in the Portland area have to operate slightly different than churches in rural areas. And that stuff did happen. And since I was involved with the worship team, I traveled all around the western US and heard the same things. You ever watch the documentary "Jesus Camp"? My childhood was exactly like that.

My dad was a pastor in several churches growing up, until he resigned when I was 17. I spent a lot of time traveling around in different churches as well, I dont remember any pressure to vote one way or another. I was what most people considered a pretty hardcore atheist until I was 25, but thats not really important to this. Im 100% sure that some churches do in fact pressure their members to vote certain ways. Not sure if its, “most”, or what the percentages are. Just my experience has been different I suppose.

 

[theprunetang]

My dad was a pastor in several churches growing up, until he resigned when I was 17. I spent a lot of time traveling around in different churches as well, I dont remember any pressure to vote one way or another. I was what most people considered a pretty hardcore atheist until I was 25, but thats not really important to this. Im 100% sure that some churches do in fact pressure their members to vote certain ways. Not sure if its, “most”, or what the percentages are. Just my experience has been different I suppose.

There are also soooooooo many different and slightly varying denominations. We may have circled in different types of churches.